MBony
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I searched for 'Tent' and 'university' and came up with nothing. This is some crazy stuff. I haven't read the whole site as to why they were marching, but the video says a lot.
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Originally posted by: werk
1) What were they protesting?
2) What exactly were the cops doing to their necks? Obviously, it's some sort of protocol to remove sit-in protestors...are they essentially giving them a sleeper?
duuuuh...missed the link at the bottom with the explanation...reading...
Spot the hypocrisy. We're going to do something we know is illegal, we'll form links to make us difficult to remove, oh noes we were violently removed.It's illegal either way, so why would we compromise the idea when there were no guarantees or even hopes (at this point)? So in the end, after the fishbowl as well, it was decided that we were going to stay put, at the base, and camp. And the consequences would be dealt with.
So once that decision had been made the idea was to try to come up with a plan that would help the situation if it got bad (ie cops). It was generally agreed upon that we would go into lockdown, forming small circles of people, sitting, and arms linked, and wait to be arrested. This all seemed to be okay with everybody. After this discussion was already beginning, the administration came back and offered the quarry as a place for us to have "sanctioned" camping. This was such an obvious attempt at throwing a wrench in the machine of our little democracy.
I mean, as I am told, the quarry was offered last Friday as an option, and only hours later, removed as an option, again the message of "absolutely no camping". All day we were told that there would be no camping allowed, and once we democratically decided that we would peacefully disobey, AND THEN they decide it is an option. Extremely convenient timing, because it made people question for a second the merits of our existing plan. I think they miscalculated our community's gullibility because it didn't take us long to call bullshit.
At about this time the police, in riot gear helmets, came marching in and began surrounding the tent that we were all in. In order to do so they needed to move the tents that had been erected. Instead of being courteous and gently moving the equipment, they simply tore the structures down. Many had been staked to the ground, and many were physically ripped from the ground, causing the material to tear and effectively destroyed.
It wasn?t too long before the first person was violently taken from their peaceful and non-violent community. Like the others that would soon follow, I could not completely see what was happening because it was directly behind me, but I could hear it, and it was intense. The amount of sound that was created as the first one was pried away from their circle was consuming. People were feeling all sorts of different emotions, and it could be hear in their different yells and screams and cries. But collectively we expressed the pain over such an ignorant, cruel, calculated and misguided action.
But no one did. There's a reason for that - these are trained LEOs breaking up a public disturbance. You might wish some of those students had died, but they didn't.Originally posted by: Nebor
I wish some of them had died doing what they were doing.
Originally posted by: bradruth
Ok, so they weren't allowed to gather on that property, correct? They were informed as such and told to disperse. Failure to disperse is an arrestable offense. Upon receiving passive physical resistence, the officers employed soft empty hand control techniques (what they were doing to the neck & below the ears of those people was pressing their pressure points).
If the video wasn't filled with overreactive screams it wouldn't have caused this kind of stir. Groupthink is an amazingly dangerous thing.
If the video wasn't filled with overreactive screams it wouldn't have caused this kind of stir. Groupthink is an amazingly dangerous thing.
Hopefully this imagery will allow you to see the pain and violence that both the university and the police are willing to inflict upon the peaceful, non-violent, participant
Originally posted by: Koing
lol @ daniel1113
Hey the police aren't allowed to try and knock a camera out of someones hand right? That is the only 'iffy' thing I see from my very limited knowledge in stuff like this. I thought they are in public and you can pretty much film anything in public.
But yeah the people protesting should move. They got their message across and they should move. It is like we all get a group of us and go to the White House and just sit there or something. I'm sure the cops will come and move us.
Koing
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Koing
lol @ daniel1113
Hey the police aren't allowed to try and knock a camera out of someones hand right? That is the only 'iffy' thing I see from my very limited knowledge in stuff like this. I thought they are in public and you can pretty much film anything in public.
But yeah the people protesting should move. They got their message across and they should move. It is like we all get a group of us and go to the White House and just sit there or something. I'm sure the cops will come and move us.
Koing
Actually, it depends. If this was on private property of some sort, which I'm assuming must be, the police can knock cameras out of hands.
In all honesty, does anyone know the exact "maneuver" that the police were utilizing? Are they simply pressing known pressure points? Even though the students are squinting and grimmacing, it seems like a fairly peaceful way of removing a crowd. We've all experienced the power of pressure points, and although they hurt, they aren't damaging (especially since they automatically lead to an immediate reflex-esque reponse).