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Don Vito Corleone
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Shhh - you're not supposed to bring that up. It was all part of his "personal evolution."
SheHateMe
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The Goods
The entire thread is a pretty good read, Geo ended up getting banned. So, when you see people calling him racist...its not because of that particular thread...its because he pretty much broke it down for all of us a while ago...so we're sure. When he denies it, you know he's full of shit. I mean...who else creates a thread trying to explain why blacks are genetically inferior beings?
Someone did a little sleuthing and caught him commenting on a post on another site about Travyon Martin. This is what was said:
lotus503 said:
Of course, if you ask him directly about this...he comes up with some excuse trying to downplay his ideologies (I also think he deleted the comment from that site. See if you can find it). He keeps talking about some mental evolution stuff to take your attention off of it. But, its pretty clear cut. If you pay attention to some of his other posts in the past, you will see him basically admitting to being a White Nationalist.
But...you know, we are all just reacting emotionally when we call him out. He has his forum friends right behind him tooting the same horns. I think you can figure out who those people are.
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Thebobo
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Geosurface
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I don't really deny it, I say it's a stupid thing to call other people as a way to shut them up or shout them down.
And the "non-racist" is a mythological creature.
Don Vito Corleone
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Yeah, GS never disappoints. I'm just impressed he managed to confirm his own bigotry with fewer than 1,000 words for once. One day I'm going to bill him for wearing out the scroll wheel on my mouse.
Geosurface
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Don Vito Corleone
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Depends how you define "racism."
If the question is whether I believe particular races are better than others, I am indeed free of any hint of racism. I most certainly do not believe entire races consist largely of bad/stupid/criminal people, as you do. Given your feelings about black people in particular, I find it remarkable that you have the temerity to expect a black person (which SHM is, as I recall) to have any civil discussion with you about race, which is obviously your favorite conversational hobby horse.
SheHateMe
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Luckily for me, I'll never have to engage Geosurface and his buddies away from the keyboard.
In the capacity that you are a racist? Hell yes, I am completely free.
In the capacity that you are a racist? Hell yes, I am completely free.
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Geosurface
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Once again what I've said in the past is grossly misrepresented, and that's no surprise.
But just for the sake of argument, should I have the temerity to expect a woman to have a civil discussion with me about the sexes if she knows that I believe women are shorter, have lower upper body strength, and worse spatial/visual function than men, on average?
And does the fact that all of those things are true weigh into it at all?
Does my understanding of those facts mean I hate women?
I'm not going to get into what I think about group differences, but I will just say again that my comment about 80% was something stupid I said when I was expressing myself sloppily and being inflammatory and generally dumb. I wish I had not.
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Geosurface
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I started a thread a while back on the Discussion Club to see if anyone wanted to have a calm, reasoned look at the whole issue of holocaust denial/revisionism and see if any of the points made by those folks have any merit whatsoever. I mentioned that I had always dismissed them out of hand but recently given some of their main points a look, and found them to have more meat on their bones than I had expected. What can I say? When you are already this deep into ideas people hate you for, why not look into others? Not like their opinion of you can go any lower.
Apparently it was decided by the powers that be there that it was not a fit topic for discussion and that was fine, I mentioned in the OP that I wanted to make sure it was something allowed to be talked about. Apparently not. That's why I have not really been responding to the childish barbs about it since, because seemingly it isn't a welcome topic. And predictably in the thread's brief life there was a lot of emotional attack on even the thought of discussing it, with a few notable and laudable exceptions.
But here's your clarification.
I am not signed on to that whole movement, I just found it interesting and thought it would make an interesting topic of discussion.
Predictably, some childish idiots now wish to use it as a permanent thing to harass me with, as many of my unconventional statements or views are.
The level of tolerance around here for any sort of unconventional view or even a desire to LOOK at such a view, is really pretty staggering. It is very "thought police." I think a lot of people here should take a look at themselves on these matters and see if they like what they find. I don't think being that censorious is good.
I don't intend to discuss this issue further because again, it has been made clear that it is not an approved topic here.
Apparently it was decided by the powers that be there that it was not a fit topic for discussion and that was fine, I mentioned in the OP that I wanted to make sure it was something allowed to be talked about. Apparently not. That's why I have not really been responding to the childish barbs about it since, because seemingly it isn't a welcome topic. And predictably in the thread's brief life there was a lot of emotional attack on even the thought of discussing it, with a few notable and laudable exceptions.
But here's your clarification.
I am not signed on to that whole movement, I just found it interesting and thought it would make an interesting topic of discussion.
Predictably, some childish idiots now wish to use it as a permanent thing to harass me with, as many of my unconventional statements or views are.
The level of tolerance around here for any sort of unconventional view or even a desire to LOOK at such a view, is really pretty staggering. It is very "thought police." I think a lot of people here should take a look at themselves on these matters and see if they like what they find. I don't think being that censorious is good.
I don't intend to discuss this issue further because again, it has been made clear that it is not an approved topic here.
SheHateMe
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lol so you think people were in the wrong because you made a thread trying to justify the thoughts of Holocaust deniers and nobody wanted to have any of it.
Awwwwww. You poor baby. Those other kids are so mean to you.
Maybe you should post your shit on a forum where that type of thing is welcome.
Awwwwww. You poor baby. Those other kids are so mean to you.
Maybe you should post your shit on a forum where that type of thing is welcome.
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Geosurface
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SheHateMe, I'm afraid I'm not the baby here. I'm not the one who starts flinging insults and lamenting about why people aren't banned as soon as I encounter someone whose views (or even the views they'd just like to discuss) are too far outside my comfort zone. That'd be the crew I'm talking about. And they are vast.
And the thing is, I'm far from the only person they direct this sort of stuff at, you don't have to have views anywhere NEAR as out there as mine are to get the same treatment from them.
But they fit right in to the modern liberal mindset. Don't like what someone's saying? Let's spam Twitter until their place of work fires them or bully them into an apology or get the website that put up their article to issue a retraction, get Facebook to change their terms of use so they can't say it anymore, get the university they attend to expel them, etc etc...
And they aren't simply people who disagree with us on things, oh no no. They are racists, they are bigots, they are xenophobes, they are homophobes, they are sexists, they are misogynists, they are rape apologists, etc.
Good little communists.
And the thing is, I'm far from the only person they direct this sort of stuff at, you don't have to have views anywhere NEAR as out there as mine are to get the same treatment from them.
But they fit right in to the modern liberal mindset. Don't like what someone's saying? Let's spam Twitter until their place of work fires them or bully them into an apology or get the website that put up their article to issue a retraction, get Facebook to change their terms of use so they can't say it anymore, get the university they attend to expel them, etc etc...
And they aren't simply people who disagree with us on things, oh no no. They are racists, they are bigots, they are xenophobes, they are homophobes, they are sexists, they are misogynists, they are rape apologists, etc.
Good little communists.
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SheHateMe
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Communists?
Interesting. You are basically whining that nobody wants to hear your racist vitrol. I know I don't...and why should we have to? You guys take P&N to the fucking extreme and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. You don't like when somebody tells you to post your stuff on stormfront...a place where they are not only racist, but share your ideologies about the Holocaust and blacks. You downright refuse that advice..and you continue to try to peddle your shit here. When nobody listens they're liberals and communists. I honestly think you do it because you are just another face in the crowd at a site like stormfront. On AT, you doing your radical stuff garners you a lot more attention and I think you like it when people vehemently oppose your views.
I think you ARE being a baby. How many times do you have to get in trouble on this forum for the SAME stuff?
And Holocaust denial....ARE YOU SERIOUS? Of course, nobody wants to discuss that with you!!
Interesting. You are basically whining that nobody wants to hear your racist vitrol. I know I don't...and why should we have to? You guys take P&N to the fucking extreme and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. You don't like when somebody tells you to post your stuff on stormfront...a place where they are not only racist, but share your ideologies about the Holocaust and blacks. You downright refuse that advice..and you continue to try to peddle your shit here. When nobody listens they're liberals and communists. I honestly think you do it because you are just another face in the crowd at a site like stormfront. On AT, you doing your radical stuff garners you a lot more attention and I think you like it when people vehemently oppose your views.
I think you ARE being a baby. How many times do you have to get in trouble on this forum for the SAME stuff?
And Holocaust denial....ARE YOU SERIOUS? Of course, nobody wants to discuss that with you!!
I missed that thread, but why would people have a problem discussing something like that? And im not a holocaust denier. Ive seen the pics etc.
Just curious why anyone would shut down a thread on that or hate it. If its not a topic you are interested in why not just not go in the thread?
Geosurface
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I have no connection to Stormfront, have never posted there, do not believe my views fit there from what I know of them, and will not be directed to go there by you or anyone else.
Saying "Stormfront" is just another in that long line of one word, mindless insults people use here (and lots of other places) to shut others up.
I have not embraced "holocaust denial" - I have looked into it a little bit, found it interesting, found a couple of the points to be convincing, and thought it would be interesting to discuss with others in an environment meant for calm, reasoned debate without personal insults (Discussion Club) - many people proved themselves incapable of that, and I don't blame the powers that be deciding to just shut it down, though it was unfortunate.
Not listening to me is 100% fine, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about shouting mindless insults like children and being horribly frightened that someone ELSE might listen to me or converse with me, and being a little douche about trying to make sure they don't. That's the behavior I find objectionable, but of course I'm not trying to tell anyone they cannot act that way, just trying to get them to realize how they're acting.
By all means, don't listen to me. Put me on ignore. Never respond to me again.
Ah, a true thinking man. Someone unafraid to discuss or look at ANY issue, or at the very least unafraid to let others who wish to do so. So rare these days. I salute you.
But be warned, even saying what you've just said is enough to get their ears perked up and for them to start getting ready to shout you down with some of those "shut up" words.
Saying "Stormfront" is just another in that long line of one word, mindless insults people use here (and lots of other places) to shut others up.
I have not embraced "holocaust denial" - I have looked into it a little bit, found it interesting, found a couple of the points to be convincing, and thought it would be interesting to discuss with others in an environment meant for calm, reasoned debate without personal insults (Discussion Club) - many people proved themselves incapable of that, and I don't blame the powers that be deciding to just shut it down, though it was unfortunate.
Not listening to me is 100% fine, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about shouting mindless insults like children and being horribly frightened that someone ELSE might listen to me or converse with me, and being a little douche about trying to make sure they don't. That's the behavior I find objectionable, but of course I'm not trying to tell anyone they cannot act that way, just trying to get them to realize how they're acting.
By all means, don't listen to me. Put me on ignore. Never respond to me again.
Ah, a true thinking man. Someone unafraid to discuss or look at ANY issue, or at the very least unafraid to let others who wish to do so. So rare these days. I salute you.
But be warned, even saying what you've just said is enough to get their ears perked up and for them to start getting ready to shout you down with some of those "shut up" words.
SheHateMe
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Stop pretending to be such a victim, Geo. I didn't bring Stormfront up as an insult...I brought it up as a place where your views would be accepted and discussed. Like, every time people don't want to listen to you, you start throwing insults as well (liberal, communist, etc) ...so, you're not a fucking saint. Nobody is jumping on you. You and your forum buddies do enough shit-slinging. Yall do it all the time in P&N. That's why a lot of people refuse to come here.
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Geosurface
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