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AgentJean

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: eits
that's so damn absurd

..true. but a harsh reminder that there's no privacy out here.

My question is how the hell the police got involved in this.

- M4H

What I've never been totally sure of... can an ISP actively view content by monitoring the data from the traffic of its customers? I assumed no, but... not positive.

When I worked for a web hosting company, we have full access to customer's email accounts. We could read and delete messages at our leasure if we knew the email address and all we would have to do is look up the password. But, the odds of finding such material would be near impossible.
 

AbAbber2k

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Wow... way to ruin the lives of two innocent teenagers, dickweed. What's even worse is... if they were both a year older the guy in particular would REALLY be fvcked.
 

Viper GTS

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This is a very ugly situation, no matter which way it goes something bad happens.

We really don't need to set a precedent that it's OK for minors to create and distribute child porn.

On the other hand smacking these two sucks, but which is the greater evil?

Viper GTS
 

40Hands

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America needs to separate itself from this place known as Florida. Seems like it's warm enough to breed idiots there.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This is a very ugly situation, no matter which way it goes something bad happens.

We really don't need to set a precedent that it's OK for minors to create and distribute child porn.

On the other hand smacking these two sucks, but which is the greater evil?

Viper GTS

if this were to come out the other way, it wouldn't be a precedent that it's ok to distribute. the principle here is privacy, and if you start distributing it then there is no privacy and no protection from the law.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: AgentJean
Hopefully it will be taken to the Supreme Court in FL and they may have better logic.

Oh wait, this is the FL court system we are talking about. They don't know how to run an election and the state is moving back to the paper ballot system. :roll:

At least they still have the "Make my day law", although that one good thing does not make up for the rest of the crap down there.

This was the FL Supreme Court's decision.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: wetcat007
LOL I hacked the internet! This is extremely stupid, they're 16 and 17 years old. o noes nudity and sex is teh end of the world!!!!!!! But violence is excellent, unless it's in a video game then it's terrible!!!

Lets teach them a lesson to never do that again for the next 1-2 years of their life until they can legally do so!!! lol

don't forget that they'll also be sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

'least intrusive' method to promote a state interest, my ass. labeling someone as a sex offender is extremely intrusive.

"minors who are involved in a sexual relationship, unlike adults who may be involved in a mature committed relationship, have no reasonable expectation that their relationship will continue and that the photographs will not be shared with others intentionally or unintentionally."
what a pompous douchebag. he is really giving adults far too much credit.

"further, if these pictures are ultimately released, future damage may be done to these minors' careers or personal lives" so lets subject them to the humiliation of a trial, jail, and sex offender status to prevent that damage by making sure they have no career or meaningful personal lives!


He is definitely giving adults waayyy too much credit. I don't personally think what the teenagers did was very smart, as any relationship can end badly.

I consider my personal email address a private address (irregardless of what spammers may think) and I reasonably expect that if I send an email to someone's private email address, that no one but the recipient will view the contents. I think the mailbox analogy works well here. If I address a letter to someone, I expect the recipient will be the one to view the contents and then will determine if the contents should be shared or kept private. Now the postmaster, postal workers, others at the destination residence, etc. could open the letter and invade the recipient's privacy. I suppose the main difference is that there are laws in place to deter anyone besides the intended recipient from opening postal mail.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: 40Hands
America needs to separate itself from this place known as Florida. Seems like it's warm enough to breed idiots there.

A whole lot of states could go with em... and I'm living in FL now ; ).
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: AgentJean
Hopefully it will be taken to the Supreme Court in FL and they may have better logic.

Oh wait, this is the FL court system we are talking about. They don't know how to run an election and the state is moving back to the paper ballot system. :roll:

At least they still have the "Make my day law", although that one good thing does not make up for the rest of the crap down there.

This was the FL Supreme Court's decision.

This was the district court of appeal decision. not the state supreme court.
 

timur

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: eits
that's so damn absurd

..true. but a harsh reminder that there's no privacy out here.

My question is how the hell the police got involved in this.

- M4H

My guess is some parents overreacted.

Yup, better question is, "How the hell did the parents get involved in this?"
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: eits
that's so damn absurd

..true. but a harsh reminder that there's no privacy out here.

My question is how the hell the police got involved in this.

- M4H

What I've never been totally sure of... can an ISP actively view content by monitoring the data from the traffic of its customers? I assumed no, but... not positive.

If they wish to have it setup like so they can, although having actual people to monitor everything would cost a lot of money, legally I'm not sure how it works. The Feds however to monitor internet traffic quite a bit. Email accounts generally have little to no security on them, IT people at the ISP can most likely view whatever they want for email unless you're using PGP encryption or something like that to keep it from prying eyes.
 

thraashman

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Do the have the guy's email listed? I think I'd like to hack it......

Guess it's a good thing I deleted out of my email all those images of me having sex with 16 year olds, else someone who has no reasonable ability to access to my email might get in and distribute them, then it would be all my fault.

(Note: While this is sarcasm, it would be fully legal in my state for me to have sex with a 16 year old, but illegal to have pictures of it, which I still don't quite get).
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This is a very ugly situation, no matter which way it goes something bad happens.

We really don't need to set a precedent that it's OK for minors to create and distribute child porn.

On the other hand smacking these two sucks, but which is the greater evil?

Viper GTS

Without question damning these two kids is the greater evil. The difference here is "distribute" and the intent therein. These kids only intended on distributing to each other. Making it a private matter. Someone trying to profit or whatever would make obvious efforts to distribute to a public audience with the intent of doing so.
 

OutHouse

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so lets say when my wife and I were 17 and took polorids of each other and they were found would we both go to jail??? you know a totally hypothetical question....
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Citrix
so lets say when my wife and I were 17 and took polorids of each other and they were found would we both go to jail??? you know a totally hypothetical question....

depends on if they buy the privacy argument. at least in floriduh. if you were man and wife at the time this might come out different in even this guy's mind.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
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In other words, under Florida law, Amber and Jeremy would be legally permitted to engage in carnal relations, but they're criminals if they document it.

WTF!!!
 
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Originally posted by: Citrix
so lets say when my wife and I were 17 and took polorids of each other and they were found would we both go to jail??? you know a totally hypothetical question....

Probably. Otherwise people could say, oops, my lost pictures were found by a distributor who then lost $10,000 which I then found.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: Citrix
In other words, under Florida law, Amber and Jeremy would be legally permitted to engage in carnal relations, but they're criminals if they document it.

WTF!!!

Exactly ...
The internets = a bad place
 

SagaLore

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You people must realize, if everyone started voting at age 18, there would be a big shift in our legislature. Instead most of you site back and relax, let the government run itself off of a minority of liberals and ultracons, then complain when the crap hits the fan.

The next presidential election I am asking for an anandtech effect.