Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[soundforbjt]

And the teens left while being fired upon, not after the fact...Dunn was the one who left after the fact...Dunn is Done.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The shotgun being easy to find would be if the following is assumed.

1) there was a firearm in the durango
2) they drove off nearby to dump it
3) they didn't have anyone pick up the firearm once it was dumped

Number 3 is the key part. Drive off to dump weapon while calling friends to come pick it up. Very plausible scenario assuming the firearm Dunn claims is real.

:biggrin:

 

[soundforbjt]

The shotgun being easy to find would be if the following is assumed.

1) there was a firearm in the durango
2) they drove off nearby to dump it
3) they didn't have anyone pick up the firearm once it was dumped

Number 3 is the key part. Drive off to dump weapon while calling friends to come pick it up. Very plausible scenario assuming the firearm Dunn claims is real.

Not a chance if witnesses observed them the entire time, as indicated so far.

 

[QueBert]

Musser is the lead detective and his affidavit is from interviewing Dunn, the teenagers and eyewitnesses.

Why would he have interviewed the teenagers? They're felons and part of the Durango gang. And all they'll do is say "I didn't do nuffin"

Not a chance if witnesses observed them the entire time, as indicated so far.

This of course is assuming they're not one of the white guilt people SA and Spidey talk about. In which case they could be lying here because they feel bad about racism and stuff. SA and Spidey have already proven here these teens are 100% guilty.

 

[HumblePie]

Not a chance if witnesses observed them the entire time, as indicated so far.

That article writes conflicting reports from both sides. I'll wait until the discovery evidence is released. Claims are being made that the SUV drove off out of sight, and some that it didn't. I've seen it reported both ways as "witness reports to police" in this case. I'm in no hurry to wait until actual evidence is released to the public before making any real judgement on this case.

 

[soundforbjt]

That article writes conflicting reports from both sides. I'll wait until the discovery evidence is released. Claims are being made that the SUV drove off out of sight, and some that it didn't. I've seen it reported both ways as "witness reports to police" in this case. I'm in no hurry to wait until actual evidence is released to the public before making any real judgement on this case.

I believe I posted a link a page or two ago that discovery evidence has been released and Dunn's attorney is trying to have the witness statements "hushed".

 

[mugs]

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ordan-davis-fled-after-shooting#ixzz2OCCy4662

I find the part I put in bold very interesting. Was this "witness" one of the kids in the SUV, or someone else who saw the whole thing?
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This doesn't bode well for the Jetta Homicide Crew.

 

[surfsatwerk]

This doesn't bode well for the Jetta Homicide Crew.

This caused an acute case of lulz.

 

[soundforbjt]

If it was something where they just immediately peeled out of there it would be easier for me to chalk it up to terror at being fired at. According to witness reports, they did to escape Dunn's gunfire.

The problem with that is that Dunn drove off before they did anything, then they GET OUT of their truck, which nullifies any sort of kneejerk peeling out due to fear thing... then get BACK in the truck, drive off for a while, and then come back. According to witnesses, that is not true.

That's what makes it fishy to me.

You can no longer attribute it to fear of Dunn or instinctive fleeing because of the fact that they got out of the truck before getting back in, THEN driving off. IMO.

So, I'm being asked to believe that a middle aged business man decided to throw his life away, and possibly murder a car full of kids... because he didn't like their loud music and couldn't put up with it for another minute til his girlfriend got back to the car?

That doesn't seem very believable to me.

I think it makes a lot more sense that he had a REASON to shoot into that car.

That consideration combined with them driving off before coming back... makes me seriously entertain that his story may be true.

Common sense dictates, at the very least, that a car full of rap-blasting youths, one of whom is a felon, are not going to react politely to some old white boy asking them to turn their music down. Particularly if Dunn asked in a rude way, which I suspect he did.

I can EASILY see some verbal threats of violence flowing pretty freely at that point... the question is, was a gun flashed as well? Yes, it was Dunn's

A witness told police Dunn pointed a handgun out the window and said, “You are not going to talk to me like that” before he began firing at the SUV and continued firing as the vehicle attempted to leave the parking lot.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ordan-davis-fled-after-shooting#ixzz2OCXeeZHs

Again, the driving off makes this more believable.

Dunn really fucked himself by not calling cops... because if he had, the cops could have put two and two together that night with the witness(es) who saw the kids drive off, and apparently even saw WHERE they drove off to, and if he'd told them about the shotgun, the cops could have searched all the trashcans and storm drains and bushes in this "neighboring shopping center" that night before these kids or someone they knew could have a chance to come back and fish the shotgun back OUT of wherever it was thrown (if it was bushes or a trash can or something like that reasonably accessible) and taken it home.

I suspect Dunn is thoroughly boned regardless of what happened, because the last thing Florida wants is another case like this... they want to be seen to be punishing the evil, racist white man.

But maybe they could time it so that they only get one round of riots out of this and Zimmerman.

bolded.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

The only "witnesses" who I have read stating that are the ones in the car. You know, the ones who are running a crew with a felon on probation.

The reason the prosecution is making these claims that they never left the scene is because they KNOW that the defense will tear it apart.



It's like I said from the get-go, this entire case revolves around that shotgun.

If it's proven that they left the scene, which should be easy considering there were multiple witnesses who saw it happen, Dunn will walk...

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That article writes conflicting reports from both sides. I'll wait until the discovery evidence is released. Claims are being made that the SUV drove off out of sight, and some that it didn't. I've seen it reported both ways as "witness reports to police" in this case. I'm in no hurry to wait until actual evidence is released to the public before making any real judgement on this case.

I agree, it's too early to tell for sure.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

"Musser said the vehicle did leave the parking lot after the shooting, but stopped after going about 400 feet into a connected strip mall parking lot when two of the teenagers got out to check on the condition of the vehicle. After realizing that Davis had been shot, they drove in reverse back to the gas station where everyone remained until police arrived. Musser estimated the vehicle returned within 90 seconds.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ordan-davis-fled-after-shooting#ixzz2OCoHhodx




Bahahaha yeah right... Lol.... Can't wait to see who rolls over first.
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[Capt Caveman]

"Musser said the vehicle did leave the parking lot after the shooting, but stopped after going about 400 feet into a connected strip mall parking lot when two of the teenagers got out to check on the condition of the vehicle. After realizing that Davis had been shot, they drove in reverse back to the gas station where everyone remained until police arrived. Musser estimated the vehicle returned within 90 seconds.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ordan-davis-fled-after-shooting#ixzz2OCoHhodx




Bahahaha yeah right... Lol.... Can't wait to see who rolls over first.
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Forgot to include this dumbass. And guess what, these eyewitnesses weren't the boys in the suv. Dunn is cooked:

Witnesses told police they did not see anyone remove any items from the SUV, nor did they see anyone in possession of a weapon, according to the affidavit.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Forgot to include this dumbass. And guess what, these eyewitnesses weren't the boys in the suv. Dunn is cooked:

Yeah right LOL, these are the witnesses that the prosecution found.... Like I said... Put this situation in front of a jury of 12? Yup let's see what happens. Society is sick of felon thugs robbing their cars/houses, trust me, this isn't going to end well for the other three. Well, two, since one will likely roll.

 

[maziwanka]

Yeah right LOL, these are the witnesses that the prosecution found.... Like I said... Put this situation in front of a jury of 12? Yup let's see what happens. Society is sick of felon thugs robbing their cars/houses, trust me, this isn't going to end well for the other three. Well, two, since one will likely roll.

haha - you are one un-fucking-believable piece of shit.

 

[Theb]

The only "witnesses" who I have read stating that are the ones in the car. You know, the ones who are running a crew with a felon on probation.

The reason the prosecution is making these claims that they never left the scene is because they KNOW that the defense will tear it apart.



It's like I said from the get-go, this entire case revolves around that shotgun.

If it's proven that they left the scene, which should be easy considering there were multiple witnesses who saw it happen, Dunn will walk...

What do you mean by "running a crew?"

 

[QueBert]

haha - you are one un-fucking-believable piece of shit.

Honestly he's a totally believe piece of shit, when Dunn's convicted he'll just cry white guilt or something that only makes sense to him and his ATcrew.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Honestly he's a totally believe piece of shit, when Dunn's convicted he'll just cry white guilt or something that only makes sense to him and his ATcrew.

If it's shown that the durango never left the parking lot then dunn should be convicted and I would be perfectly fine with it.


Of course, the prosecution has already admitted that they left the scene.... They claimed the durango felon crew pulled over and got out to check the damage of the outside of the car, and that's when they supposedly just noticed one of the crew was shot and bleeding out inside the car..... Yeah right, seriously sitting here laughing just typing out that scenario......

 

[SpatiallyAware]

haha - you are one un-fucking-believable piece of shit.

Hey I know that my logical no-nonsense opinions are tough for some to accept and I'm ok with that.

 

[QueBert]

If it's shown that the durango never left the parking lot then dunn should be convicted and I would be perfectly fine with it.


Of course, the prosecution has already admitted that they left the scene.... They claimed the durango felon crew pulled over and got out to check the damage of the outside of the car, and that's when they supposedly just noticed one of the crew was shot and bleeding out inside the car..... Yeah right, seriously sitting here laughing just typing out that scenario......

Yeah it's not believable that a SUV full of people didn't notice one had been shot, while they drove off terrified due to a psycho with a gun. I would gather things were rather hectic, and the story that the lead investigator's saying is they drove a short distance and realized someone had been shot.

What's so hard to believe about that?

But I'm sure you 100% believe Dunn's telling that he didn't contact the police because hay he didn't think he actually had hit anyone right?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hey I know that my racist no-nonsense opinions are tough for some to accept and I'm ok with that.

FTFY

 

[mugs]

IMO in front of a jury, the entire defense will revolve around why they left the scene. Like I said, I'd love to hear these thugs excuse for it.

Why? You've already judged them guilty. What difference does it make?

"Musser said the vehicle did leave the parking lot after the shooting, but stopped after going about 400 feet into a connected strip mall parking lot when two of the teenagers got out to check on the condition of the vehicle. After realizing that Davis had been shot, they drove in reverse back to the gas station where everyone remained until police arrived. Musser estimated the vehicle returned within 90 seconds.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ordan-davis-fled-after-shooting#ixzz2OCoHhodx




Bahahaha yeah right... Lol.... Can't wait to see who rolls over first.
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This is my surprised face.

 

[spidey07]

Whole lotta white guilt in this thread.

Fuck that shit and fuck the skittles.

 

[soundforbjt]

Whole lotta white guilt in this thread.

Fuck that shit and fuck the skittles.

Common spidey, show me one piece of proven, verified, evidence that proves self-defense....just one (Dunn's statements are not evidence).:biggrin:

 

[umbrella39]

One outweighted by dozens that say there wasn't one. Nice try.

The CJ crew can't wait to be wrong again.