Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[spidey07]

If they made verbal threats against his life and showed what could be construed as a weapon he is well within his rights to shoot.

Don't threaten another's life. Don't get dead.

Just that simple.

 

[umbrella39]

If they didn't make verbal threats against his life and did not show anything even close to resembling a weapon he is well within his rights to 2nd degree murder which is what he was charged with.

Don't drink, drive, start a conflict and then shoot up a car full of kids and kill one. Don't end up on death row.

Just that simple.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

If they made verbal threats against his life and showed what could be construed as a weapon he is well within his rights to shoot.

Don't threaten another's life. Don't get dead.

Just that simple.

Sure;

OR the guy is a paranoid white guy with a chip on his shoulder, desperately hoping for a chance to pull his gun out and prove he's got power over the dark-skinned others that haunt his dreams.

Now that we have two perfectly reasonable conclusions, lets walk through some behavioral evidence:
The guy shot someone and then didn't call the cops but tried to run away... is this a mind full of fear or who knows he is well within his rights?

Keep in mind, arguing that he was justified in running away because he was fearful of society not upholding his rights only provides support for the "paranoid white guy" conclusion.

I'm not going to convict him without evidence; but to argue that he's likely not guilty is asinine.

Well, to be entirely honest i don't visit stormfront (for obvious reasons) so i am not entirely familiar with it.

However, i am familiar with leaders using eugenics as the basis of justified racism and they are definitely heroes of people who would fit in on stormfront.

Does that mean storm front supports abortion

 

[Capt Caveman]

I don't see it as a bad thing. One less asshole in the world. I look forward to your turn in the barrel.

I missed this. Did you just hope that someone will kill me?

 

[herrjimbo]

I missed this. Did you just hope that someone will kill me?

just couldn't leave it alone, could you. had to have the last word.

 

[AlienCraft]

Holy crap! 26 pages ? Too freaking long, won't thread that out.

 

[SheHateMe]

Sure;

Does that mean stormfront supports abortion

Not only that, but after they finish killing off the "invaders" when the "Race War" they fantasize about all day starts...they're going cull all of the defective whites they can't be productive members of society. They haven't made the guidelines very clear yet..but this means anybody who is retarded, handicapped, has a low IQ, infertile, gay, etc.

 

[mugs]

If they made verbal threats against his life and showed what could be construed as a weapon he is well within his rights to shoot.

Don't threaten another's life. Don't get dead.

Just that simple.

Don't listen to loud music. Don't get murdered by a drunk guy who is depressed over having been a deadbeat father who missed his son's entire life.

Just that simple.

 

[HeXen]

wrong or not, reality is if you perform behaviors or attire that is either out of sync with norms of your society or give illusion to being such, then you become a magnet for negativity to occur, an involuntarily attraction to violence and judgement. it's just going to happen and no discussion of moral's will change that. At least it hasn't in the past hundred thousand years or so anyway.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Totally agree...... Act like a thug, choose to dress like a thug, 'roll' with thugs..... Don't be surprised when you're treated like a thug.

This isn't high school where teachers or whatever are there to break up a fight. If you threaten someone's life, be ready for them to respond accordingly.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

wrong or not, reality is if you perform behaviors or attire that is either out of sync with norms of your society or give illusion to being such, then you become a magnet for negativity to occur, an involuntarily attraction to violence and judgement. it's just going to happen and no discussion of moral's will change that. At least it hasn't in the past hundred thousand years or so anyway.

wrong or not, reality is if you perform behaviors or attire that is either out of sync with norms of your society are black or give illusion to being such, behave in accordance with the norms of your culture, then you become a magnet for negativity to occur, an involuntarily attraction to violence and judgement. it's just going to happen and no discussion of moral's will change that. At least it hasn't in the past hundred thousand years or so anyway.


That's right! That's what racism is, saying that racism exists and is a fact doesn't make it right or aceptable.

 

[Anubis]

may be they should change their culture

 

[Dr. Zaus]

may be they should change their culture

You don't 'change' culture; you can adopt a different culture, but it is a long drawn-out process that is never complete. Even then, racists like the one in my sig will never be happy.

 

[OCNewbie]

Even then, racists like the one in my sig will never be happy.

I'm not going to say that I'm convinced spidey is NOT a racist, but what he said in your sig doesn't imply racism. It might imply ignorance, or a paranoid belief that a race war IS coming, but that doesn't imply he hates blacks (or any other race).

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I'm not going to say that I'm convinced spidey is NOT a racist, but what he said in your sig doesn't imply racism. It might imply ignorance, or a paranoid belief that a race war IS coming, but that doesn't imply he hates blacks (or any other race).

It means he is mentally primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants, if that doesn't correlate strongly with racially discriminatory behavior then nothing but a video/admission of said behavior can be used as an indicator of it.

A psychological understanding of things comes from Finding manifest indicators of the latent constructs the latent construct in this case is racism something that you can't actually see manifest indicators are... well... everything spidey posts in these sorts of threads.

So I agree: doesn't prove anything in the same way fleeing the seen of a murder you just committed doesn't prove anything...

But it's mighty suspicious

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I'm not going to say that I'm convinced spidey is NOT a racist, but what he said in your sig doesn't imply racism. It might imply ignorance, or a paranoid belief that a race war IS coming, but that doesn't imply he hates blacks (or any other race).

What would you call someone who refers to black people as illegal immigrants for no other reason than their skin colour?

I'd call him Spidey.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Does that mean storm front supports abortion

More like a support of the elimination of all parents and children.

Race biology is amusing, did you know that eastern europeans generally have a wider but shorter skull? That means that they are perverted according to the 1920's scientists.

Eventually it all died out as no hypothesis had any basis in reality.

In EEG testing of psychopaths it's proven that the actual activity of the brain can be less even if an area is larger in size and vice versa, this has to do with epigenetics. Thus environmental factors and sociological factors are pretty much 100% responsible even for the genetical portion of behaviour in humans.

 

[SheHateMe]

may be they should change their culture

It's not a culture. Maybe you should stop being so fucking ignorant.

 

[OCNewbie]

It means he is mentally primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants

No, it shows he believes a war among different races is going to occur, and he believes he is prepared for the resulting chaos that will ensue.

 

[soundforbjt]

So when is spidey's episode on Doomsday Preppers gonna be on?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

No, it shows he believes a war among different races is going to occur, and he believes he is prepared for the resulting chaos that will ensue.

Is there something about your distinction that makes some sort of diference?

 

[OCNewbie]

Is there something about your distinction that makes some sort of diference?

You asked spidey if he was ready for "the" race war. Were you referring to a specific race war? If so, which one would that be? Apparently spidey seemed to think you were referring to a specific race war, and apparently he believes such a war is going to happen, and he believes he is prepared for it. He didn't elaborate, nor did you ask him to, on what being prepared meant.

IF it appeared that a race war was impending between Blacks and Hispanics in a prison, and an Asian man notices this, and has made preparations for such a war (thus being prepared) does that make the Asian man racist for being prepared? You asked if spidey was prepared for some race war, and he said he was, and that somehow shows he's racist? It doesn't imply "he is mentally primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants", just that he envisions a "war" taking place where race dictates what side those who are involved in the war are on, and that he has made preparations (not necessarily to fight, but to be prepared for when/if the consequences of such a war get to the point where it may affect him personally) for it.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

It's not a culture. Maybe you should stop being so fucking ignorant.

"Thug Life" absolutely is a culture.

When your entire life revolves around promoting and bragging about violence, theft (both innocent people and welfare theft), dealing drugs... That is something easy to change within yourself. These aren't things you're born with, they're conscious culture trends you decide to follow.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

just that he envisions a "war" taking place where race dictates what side those who are involved in the war are on, and that he has made preparations (not necessarily to fight, but to be prepared for when/if the consequences of such a war get to the point where it may affect him personally) for it.

Does this in some way negate the idea: "he is mentally primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants"?

It seems that even if a full defensive posture, in eluding the war between the Asians and the Hispanics (which was not the context), Spidey would still be primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants.

Such priming being a keen indicator of underlying psychological traits/assumptions that will lead to subconsciousness (of not consciously justified) racist behavior.


It is this kind of priming, I would argue, that would make someone run around packing heat and ready to shoot the next person that reminds him they aren't white and may, some how, potentially have a gun.

We get all kinds here on ATOT; including the kinds that end up in news stories like this.

 

[spidey07]

Does this in some way negate the idea: "he is mentally primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants"?

It seems that even if a full defensive posture, in eluding the war between the Asians and the Hispanics (which was not the context), Spidey would still be primed to think of other races as potential enemy combatants.

Such priming being a keen indicator of underlying psychological traits/assumptions that will lead to subconsciousness (of not consciously justified) racist behavior.


It is this kind of priming, I would argue, that would make someone run around packing heat and ready to shoot the next person that reminds him they aren't white and may, some how, potentially have a gun.

We get all kinds here on ATOT; including the kinds that end up in news stories like this.

Meh.

Reality don't lie. You're not paying attention to the world around you. I am.

Eagle scout here Be prepared.