Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[QueBert]

You think they were bumping out to some classical violin and that's why they were asked to turn it down?

How often is extremely loud obnoxious music ANYTHING but dumbass gangster racist/violent crap?

A lot of the loud ass rap music you hear has absolutely nothing violent in it. The majority of rap that people play loud would be a dude talking about his money and how much pussy he gets. Annoying? sure to a lot of people. But not violence in the least bit. For the record I have about 500 rap CD's, I play them very loud and not a single one is "gangsta" rap. Not that you'd believe me but there's a lot of rap that talks about social issues, abstract shit and lots of other things that don't fall into the category of gangster.

 

[Number1]

Look, it's so simple... If you don't want to be treated like a thug then don't act like one.

If you have a hoodie on in deep gangster cover, blaring violent music, and then act like you have a gun when someone asks you to turn it down... Well... Someone might just treat you like a thug.

Exactly, sometime when you look like a thug, you get treated like one.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

*siigh* A lot of the loud ass rap music you here has absolutely nothing violent in it. The majority of rap that people play loud would be a dude talking about his money and how much pussy he gets. Annoying? sure to a lot of people. But not violence in the least bit.

Rofl, right.... Every time I go to the bad part of town they're rattling windows with the sugarhill gang

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Exactly, sometime when you look like a thug, you get treated like one.

Note that I didn't say 'look' like a thug but 'act' like a thug.

 

[AMDZen]

The Thuggish Ruggish dead kiddddddd

 

[HumblePie]

Don't know the whole story to this yet. Guy claims the teenagers were making violent threats at him and he saw a barrel of a rifle pointed at him. Story says no gun was recovered, but that doesn't mean the kids weren't using something else that may have looked like a gun while pointing it at him and making a threat.

If the evidence shows he went ballistic for no reason the guy deserves to rot in jail at the very least. But if the evidence shows the kids stupid enough to threaten him while aiming something that may be construed as life threatening, well the idiots got what they deserved.

 

[Capt Caveman]

It's an SUV full of young thugs, who just acted like they were going to shoot some innocent guy.

You think that they would just place the gun on the dashboard? ROFL


I can't wait to see the gas station video.....

Acting like thugs? Can you quote where that's been stated in any of the articles or are you just making it up?

Why did the guy leave the scene if he was acting in self-defense?

Please keep your racist lying shit in the Zimmerman thread.

Waiting for Geosurface to join in and defend the murderer.

 

[AMDZen]

Dude looks eerily like Rex Ryan

Prolly hates Tebow too

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Acting like thugs? Can you quote where that's been stated in any of the articles or are you just making it up?

Why did the guy leave the scene if he was acting in self-defense?

Please keep your racist lying shit in the Zimmerman thread.

Black, hoodies, "violent music" playing....

I'd say it's an open and shut case, he had absolutely no choice but to shoot them.

I do object to the term "violent music" though. Rap can be violent and it is most certainly annoying but it's NOT music.

 

[QueBert]

Rofl, right.... Every time I go to the bad part of town they're rattling windows with the sugarhill gang

Yes, because there's absolutely no rap between Superhill Gang or Tupac, you gotta be one or the other.

 

[HumblePie]

Dunn leaving after the shooting does seem suspicious, although he did just go home where anyone could find him.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Dunn leaving after the shooting does seem suspicious, although he did just go home where anyone could find him.

He should have called the police, not doing so was a huge fuckup on his part. Regardless of what happens afterwards he absolutely needs to report the shooting himself.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Don't know the whole story to this yet. Guy claims the teenagers were making violent threats at him and he saw a barrel of a rifle pointed at him. Story says no gun was recovered, but that doesn't mean the kids weren't using something else that may have looked like a gun while pointing it at him and making a threat.

If the evidence shows he went ballistic for no reason the guy deserves to rot in jail at the very least. But if the evidence shows the kids stupid enough to threaten him while aiming something that may be construed as life threatening, well the idiots got what they deserved.

The best comment in this entire thread....

The bottom line is that right now the only fact/evidence/story is from the shooter. We need to wait until more actual facts come out before modern-day lynch mobbing like the crumponite crew would prefer.

 

[AMDZen]

Yes, because there's absolutely no rap between Superhill Gang or Tupac, you gotta be one or the other.

You must really love your rap music, how dare anyone disrespect your rap music

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Acting like thugs? Can you quote where that's been stated in any of the articles or are you just making it up?

Why did the guy leave the scene if he was acting in self-defense?

Please keep your racist lying shit in the Zimmerman thread.

Waiting for Geosurface to join in and defend the murderer.

Playing loud obnoxious music at the gas station, with hoodie in deep cover, and pointing a gun or gun-like object out of the window to intimidate is thug behaviour.

He left the scene and went straight home. The SUV was full of little thugs who purportedly had guns. The last thing he should do is stay there and have a shoot out.

Based on what we know he eliminated the threat to his life, then left the scene before it could escalate.

 

[QueBert]

The best comment in this entire thread....

The bottom line is that right now the only fact/evidence/story is from the shooter. We need to wait until more actual facts come out before modern-day lynch mobbing like the crumponite crew would prefer.

Oh, we do know though, dude said they pointed a gun at him, no gun was found, that's all I need to know. I'm sure you'll fight to the death at how they were obviously acting like thugs because of the loud music though. He shot an unarmed kid that's a FACT, he also went home before he did contacted the police. I'd say those are 2 big strikes already, and things will only get worse as more comes out. Strike 3 is just around the corner.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The best comment in this entire thread....

The bottom line is that right now the only fact/evidence/story is from the shooter. We need to wait until more actual facts come out before modern-day lynch mobbing like the crumponite crew would prefer.

Guy fires his gun 8 times into a vehicle, flees the scene and doesn't contact the cops (they have to identify him via the camera footage which he most probably didn't consider they could do). This much is absolutely known.

The camera footage should also show if they had a gun out the window but so far the only one claiming that is Dunn.

But indeed, we know nothing more than that.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Oh, we do know though, dude said they pointed a gun at him, no gun was found, that's all I need to know. I'm sure you'll fight to the death at how they were obviously acting like thugs because of the loud music though. He shot an unarmed kid that's a FACT, he also went home before he did anything. I'd say those are 2 big strikes already, and things will only get worse as more comes out. Strike 3 is just around the corner.

Of course that's all you need to know. You made your opinion on what happened based on looking at two pictures.

An suv full of thugs aren't going to stick a gun on the dashboard. Stop being naive. That gun was gone LONG before the police showed up.

You made these same assumptions during the last race baiter case, and look what happened. I suggest you take a step back and look at the facts before jumping to conclusions again.

 

[HumblePie]

He should have called the police, not doing so was a huge fuckup on his part. Regardless of what happens afterwards he absolutely needs to report the shooting himself.

If he had called it would have looked better than him fleeing the scene in terms of showing his innocence. However, I don't believe that there is a law that forces him to call police after either. Blind firing 8 to 9 rounds into a car is indicative of someone scared and shooting under fear/duress. Especially since only 2 rounds hit. Considering he was parked in the pump right next to the kids, that is close enough to make sure he would hit someone if he fired with the calm intention of hitting your target. In which case, he would not have needed to fire that many shots.

From the loose circumstantial evidence presented by the media thus far, I can see very easily how this could be a self defense case even if the guy was bit stupid in leaving the scene. He asks the kids to turn down their music, kids get hostile, a heated discussion occurs, the kids pretend to be packing heat and threaten him to make the guy run away. Instead their decision to scare him off back fires and instead of the guy running he pulls out his gun and shoots. In the moment of fight or flight instincts the guy decides to fight first then flight after. Perfectly reasonable psychological response. Or perhaps the kids were packing a gun and hid it afterwards. In which case, him fleeing the scene makes more sense as he might think those he missed after he unloaded his gun would try to shoot him.

However, it could be the kids just pissed the guy off enough with provocation and he went mental and shot the kids for their remarks. In which case he's guilty of manslaughter at a minimum and should rot in jail for his actions.

 

[QueBert]

Of course that's all you need to know. You made your opinion on what happened based on looking at two pictures.

An suv full of thugs aren't going to stick a gun on the dashboard. Stop being naive. That gun was gone LONG before the police showed up.

You made these same assumptions during the last race baiter case, and look what happened. I suggest you take a step back and look at the facts before jumping to conclusions again.

Ok, so if I'm to follow your logic, they were vicious thugs with a gun which they pulled on a dude. The dude then pulls a gun and manages to get off 8 or 9 shots without these vicious thugs firing back once?

explain this please, and for my knowledge they didn't flee the scene like he did.

 

[jayzds]

Oh, we do know though, dude said they pointed a gun at him, no gun was found, that's all I need to know. I'm sure you'll fight to the death at how they were obviously acting like thugs because of the loud music though. He shot an unarmed kid that's a FACT, he also went home before he did contacted the police. I'd say those are 2 big strikes already, and things will only get worse as more comes out. Strike 3 is just around the corner.

I agree he has two strikes against him. But, there could have easily been another gun that would obviously be long gone with no way to prove it. He did mess up by not calling the police to report the incident though :/

 

[Newbian]

Depends on what they were playing.

 

[HumblePie]

The great thing about this case at least is that the incident happened at a gas station with plenty of witnesses and cameras. Forensic evidence should not be lacking.

 

[HumblePie]

Depends on what they were playing.

lol

 

[mikeymikec]

Let the games begin. /Lawnchair

I'm sure a couple of bots could be set up to second-guess-and-exaggerate each others' arguments. But what would these people have to do then?