Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[BUTCH1]

Wonder if the thug who pointed a gun at him wishes he had acted differently?

Let's ask him.

<gurgle, gurgle>
<crickets>

The old saying goes - Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

You are, without a doubt the most disgusting, racist, POS on this or any forum and you can report me if you wish, the "thug" had a job, worked hard and posed no threat to Dunnfuck except he probably swore at him. But hey, any black person who is dead is happy time for sickfuck's like YOU..

 

[mugs]

Because they were still a threat.

You going to hang around after 4 dudes just threatens your life and presented a weapon?

No, you wouldn't. You'd get the hell out if there.

Don't threaten people or you may get shot.

You can say Dunn thought he saw a gun, but if you keep saying Davis actually had a weapon you're lying. They didn't drive around the block and dump the gun, they drove to an adjacent parking lot a few hundred feet away. Witnesses were watching them. They didn't have an opportunity to get rid of the imaginary gun. No gun was found. It's pretty clear that there was no gun.

I guess if the facts don't support your position, lying is your only option.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

You can say Dunn thought he saw a gun, but if you keep saying Davis actually had a weapon you're lying. They didn't drive around the block and dump the gun, they drove to an adjacent parking lot a few hundred feet away. Witnesses were watching them. They didn't have an opportunity to get rid of the imaginary gun. No gun was found. It's pretty clear that there was no gun.

I guess if the facts don't support your position, lying is your only option.

Isn't a person a deadly weapon anyway? And they were in a car, you can run someone over in a car!

As far as I can tell, by spidey's reasoning, you get to shoot anyone you want whenever you 'think' they may pose any sort of threat to you.

 

[Quakester]

"serious crimes", I believe what the guy in the SUV was charged with was possession of stolen property. Serious not found.

Unless it was YOUR stolen property Einstein. Like it or not, no one has the right to take anyone else's stuff. If ya do ya pay the consequences. No sympathy here. Pity the foo' that gets caught taking my stuff. And you would be the same way. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less serious.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Unless it was YOUR stolen property Einstein. Like it or not, no one has the right to take anyone else's stuff. If ya do ya pay the consequences. No sympathy here. Pity the foo' that gets caught taking my stuff. And you would be the same way. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less serious.

The point was to imply the 'thugs' were highly dangerous; possession of stolen property doesn't do that. Calling said crime less than 'serous' was in said context.

 

[QueBert]

Unless it was YOUR stolen property Einstein. Like it or not, no one has the right to take anyone else's stuff. If ya do ya pay the consequences. No sympathy here. Pity the foo' that gets caught taking my stuff. And you would be the same way. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less serious.

There's no situation where stealing a car stereo is more serious than shooting an unarmed person - amirite?

I do know nobody has ever been put on death row for stealing a stereo, can't say the same for a murderer.

 

[Quakester]

As I said...unless it's your stuff.

 

[QueBert]

As I said...unless it's your stuff.

I'd rather have my stereo stolen than a person I've never even met shot and killed, but hay that's just me. And I also know I'd rather have my stereo stolen than a psycho shoot me because he doesn't like my music. But again, hay, that's just me...

 

[spidey07]

The point was to imply the 'thugs' were highly dangerous; possession of stolen property doesn't do that. Calling said crime less than 'serous' was in said context.

I'd call stealing property knowing you can get shot in the process a serious crime

It's a felony for a reason.

Or was it just a little rape? Not full blown rape rape?

 

[QueBert]

I'd call stealing property knowing you can get shot in the process a serious crime

It's a felony for a reason.

Or was it just a little rape? Not full blown rape rape?

You cannot legally shoot someone for stealing your car stereo, that's not how it works. I'm sure you view that as justifiable homicide, but it's not...

 

[spidey07]

You cannot legally shoot someone for stealing your car stereo, that's not how it works. I'm sure you view that as justifiable homicide, but it's not...

Umm. Depends on the state dumbass.

That's how it works.

Make sure to tell your buddies this if they go stealing shit.

 

[TerryMathews]

You cannot legally shoot someone for stealing your car stereo, that's not how it works. I'm sure you view that as justifiable homicide, but it's not...

You can. At night. In Texas.

You can shoot a prostitute for not rendering services, as long as it's at night.

As a matter of fact, it's completely legal to shoot ANYONE committing a felony at night in Texas, even if you are a third party to the crime.

There was a case a few years back where a man shot a criminal breaking into his neighbors house.

At night is the key, these things aren't protected the same way during the day. That said this is only one example. There are other states where you can defend property. Ohio, for example, extends the castle doctrine to your automobiles.

 

[TerryMathews]

There's no situation where stealing a car stereo is more serious than shooting an unarmed person - amirite?

I do know nobody has ever been put on death row for stealing a stereo, can't say the same for a murderer.

Your logic here is horribly flawed. You're presenting "unarmed" as though it's some sort of defense. This isn't high school, nor is it Star Trek and we aren't klingons.

No one fights with honor. You bring the maximum force you are allowed to under the law.

Honor is defending what is yours and keeping your family safe. That's the way the adult world operates.

To your other point, I'm sure that there are people who have been given their third strike in Cali over stealing a car stereo. Should they get out of their automatic sentence because it's just a "little felony"?

 

[spidey07]

Me thinks quebert and his crew should stay in their state.

doesn't think they can get shot for stealing out of a car.

 

[QueBert]

Me thinks quebert and his crew should stay in their state.

doesn't think they can get shot for stealing out of a car.

I didn't say shit about it couldn't happen, hell I could shoot you for asking my GF what time it is. But you're not going to get away with it if it goes to trial. No 12 jurors will say "his actions were reasonable, not guilty" Welp, unless the 12 jurors all thought like you. But we have a screening process which is in place to keep people like you out of the juror box.

you *could* get shot for anything.

 

[TerryMathews]

I didn't say shit about it couldn't happen, hell I could shoot you for asking my GF what time it is. But you're not going to get away with it if it goes to trial. No 12 jurors will say "his actions were reasonable, not guilty" Welp, unless the 12 jurors all thought like you. But we have a screening process which is in place to keep people like you out of the juror box.

you *could* get shot for anything.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...=oOtTG6EaKPXR0pg9GY3h_Q&bvm=bv.47883778,d.aWc

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Wow at the continued fail.


These thug supporters better check their states' laws before someone legally shoots them. Sad.

 

[BudAshes]

Your logic here is horribly flawed. You're presenting "unarmed" as though it's some sort of defense. This isn't high school, nor is it Star Trek and we aren't klingons.

No one fights with honor. You bring the maximum force you are allowed to under the law.

Honor is defending what is yours and keeping your family safe. That's the way the adult world operates.

Judge, Jury and Executioner!

ATOT FUCK YEAH.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Judge, Jury and Executioner!

ATOT FUCK YEAH.

Do you really expect adult men with responsibilities to be duking it out with these thugs?


I have a family to support. If someone gets physical with me then my life (and family) is in danger and I will react accordingly.


Kids the real world is not like high school. There isn't a someone around the corner who will break up a fight.

This entire notion that you 'should' have a boxing match with a violent thug is ridiculous. Some of you need to visit worldstarhiphop and see how much respect these thugs give in their knockout videos.

 

[TerryMathews]

Judge, Jury and Executioner!

ATOT FUCK YEAH.

Better than victim or widow. Amirite?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I'd call stealing property knowing you can get shot in the process a serious crime

It's a felony for a reason.

Possession of stolen property is not the same as theft. The one person with legal troubles may well have simply been asked to "hold" an item. Does this make that person a violent? No, it's being black that makes them violent, amIright?

This entire notion that you 'should' have a boxing match with a violent thug is ridiculous. Some of you need to visit worldstarhiphop and see how much respect these thugs give in their knockout videos.

The point is that paranoid schizophrenics don't get to 'choose' who is a threat and who isn't.

The person shot had no gun, fact.
The group shot at had no gun, fact.
We have only the assailant's word to go on that he was threatened, fact.
If this was a redneck shot by a black kid many would be on the other side of the argument, FACT.

conclusion:

liars and racists abound in this thread.

QED

 

[SpatiallyAware]

False. I routinely stand up for all races, but I know that agenda makes you feel all fuzzy inside.



When you run with current felons on probation in your crew you will never get the benefit of doubt from me or anyone else who thinks logically rather than with emotion when the evidence perfectly matches the victim's story.


They left the scene, supposedly didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out, then circled a parking lot before returning to the scene. And last I read, they didn't tell police that they left because they had someone on the way to pick up that shotgun.



Unless more evidence comes out Dunn is absolutely not guilty of any crime.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

When you run with current felons on probation in your crew you will never get the benefit of doubt from me or anyone else who thinks logically

Attribution bias ('crew') is not logic.
Assumption of violence because of felony conviction is not logic.

 

[spidey07]

I didn't say shit about it couldn't happen, hell I could shoot you for asking my GF what time it is. But you're not going to get away with it if it goes to trial. No 12 jurors will say "his actions were reasonable, not guilty" Welp, unless the 12 jurors all thought like you. But we have a screening process which is in place to keep people like you out of the juror box.

you *could* get shot for anything.

Like I said, you should stay in your state. In others it's perfectly lawful and legal to shoot somebody stealing stuff out of your car.

Doubly so if it's parked in an attached garage as that is considered part of your castle/within the threshold.

Make sure to tell your crew about such laws. It seems you think it's not legl to shoot somebody stealing your shit. Think again.

 

[mugs]

When you run with current felons on probation in your crew you will never get the benefit of doubt from me or anyone else who thinks logically rather than with emotion when the evidence perfectly matches the victim's story.

You know why everyone thinks you and spidey and that other idiot are racists? Because you're using language that implies membership in a gang when there is no evidence of that. We know he had one friend who had a felony conviction. I have a friend who was convicted of a felony, but you wouldn't use that kind of language to describe me.

I've never noticed you here outside of this thread, but 10 years of spidey's posts is enough to deduce that he's an ignorant racist. If you're on the same side of an argument as him, it's not a point in your favor.

They left the scene, supposedly didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out, then circled a parking lot before returning to the scene.

Of course they left the scene, Dunn was still shooting at them as they left. They left because they were being shot at. Anyone would do the same thing. And if someone was presently shooting at me, I'd probably get away as quickly as possible without stopping to see if any of my passengers were injured. Because staying there to check on them isn't going to make them any less injured. There is absolutely nothing about the actions of the victims after the shooting started (that we are aware of) that implies any wrongdoing.

Why do you guys keep ignoring the fact that Dunn was still shooting at them when they fled? He got out of his car and continued to shoot as they drove away. This is an undisputed fact.

And last I read, they didn't tell police that they left because they had someone on the way to pick up that shotgun.

Surely there must be a source for that, right? I mean, "last I read" isn't something that deserves any credibility. Did you read it in the news, or on some white supremacist website? The only reliable source of information on the motives of the victims is the victims; if your claim was true, why would they tell anyone? If it's just a theory someone had, then it doesn't really belong in a discussion of the facts of this case.

Unless more evidence comes out Dunn is absolutely not guilty of any crime.

Yeah, he really is. He admitted that he shot Jordan Davis. He claims self defense, but there isn't a single bit of evidence that supports his claim. That is, if you're willing to examine the actual facts of the case.

Dunn done goofed. He's going to prison. And then anyone he spends time with when he gets out will be guilty by association, right? For "running with a felon in their crew."