Ted Cruz goes full retard: Net Neutrality is Obamacare for Internet

[Hayabusa Rider]

There isn't any one solution for the problems of the internet. What we have to deal with at the moment is net neutrality. The FCC chairman has one interest and that's what the industry wants. Congress is much the same. Any new rules will be designed such that they will be ineffective and might as well not be.

The only solution is to regulate it as a utility. Does that have problems? Sure, but the telecom companies have not left much of a choice and have forced the issue. So be it.

 

[moonbogg]

Pesky free bastards using the net any way they like! STOP THEM! This is just another attempt by the rich to control everything and everyone. Without some government "regulation" we will be prisoners of the heartless and powerful.

 

[TechBoyJK]

His assistant made another incredibly dense and stupid post.

https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/531971417844494336

Let that one soak in for a bit.

 

[blake0812]

wtf is this shit?!

net neutrality is making all packets equal be they netflix or youtube.

they have no idea what they are talkiing about and surprise he's from texas/.

It's old men thinking that the Internet can be shut down. They have no idea how it works. It comes with age, not party or birthplace

 

[moonbogg]

His assistant made another incredibly dense and stupid post.

https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/531971417844494336

Let that one soak in for a bit.

Maybe I'm the stupid one because I don't get why that's bad of her. She said Comcast likes net neutrality and that Cruz isn't in their pocket because he does not like net neutrality. Right? What did I miss?

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe I'm the stupid one because I don't get why that's bad of her. She said Comcast likes net neutrality and that Cruz isn't in their pocket because he does not like net neutrality. Right? What did I miss?

Comcast doesn't like net neutrality. (Look at their dealings with Netflix)

They were required as part of a precious merger to make a temporary and half hearted commitment to net neutrality, but it was not voluntary and their actions clearly show they think otherwise. His PR flak is just clueless or doesn't care.

Ted Cruz did an amazing job, he actually found someone who could say dumber things than he does. Not easily done.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's old men thinking that the Internet can be shut down. They have no idea how it works. It comes with age, not party or birthplace

Of course it can be shut down. Anyone who doesn't think so is rather naive when it comes to how power and manipulation works.

 

[moonbogg]

Comcast doesn't like net neutrality. (Look at their dealings with Netflix)

They were required as part of a precious merger to make a temporary and half hearted commitment to net neutrality, but it was not voluntary and their actions clearly show they think otherwise. His PR flak is just clueless or doesn't care.

Ted Cruz did an amazing job, he actually found someone who could say dumber things than he does. Not easily done.

Thanks for clarifying. Looks like I was missing a lot.

Of course it can be shut down. Anyone who doesn't think so is rather naive when it comes to how power and manipulation works.

This is true. If I'm actually honest about this, I know that I have no right to use the internet. I built no network, I invented nothing, the only thing I did was fly out of some lady's gash. Why do I have the right to use other people's infrastructure? Because I really, really like to use it? That's not good enough.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

That might be. Why didn't the government just keep the internet to begin with?

Because at the time the internet was not what it was today and its abilities to perform as it was originally intended were considered to be less then ideal for the ever changing needs of the DoD and the gang.

Never mind that everything the internet is today has been largely developed by private firms. Oddly enough a tremendous amount of tech itself has been spurred on by one particular industry that no one likes to talk about within polite company, i.e. the porn industry. Of which if government had retain full control of the internet this industry would of never gotten a foot hold in something like the internet in the US.

 

[brycejones]

My only question.

When did Ted Cruz stop being full retard?

 

[blake0812]

Of course it can be shut down. Anyone who doesn't think so is rather naive when it comes to how power and manipulation works.

It's not impossible but it'll be very hard and tricky to shut down everything.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Maybe I'm the stupid one because I don't get why that's bad of her. She said Comcast likes net neutrality and that Cruz isn't in their pocket because he does not like net neutrality. Right? What did I miss?

This part-- > "Comcast likes net neutrality"

Her claiming that is about the most disingenuous statement ever. The only reason Comcast has started 'taking sides with net neutrality' is because they already had their asses handed to them over it.

Once you realize how insane it is to say Comcast likes net neutrality, then you can understand how redic her tweet is. It's like saying Obama likes republicans because he let them win congress. No, that's not it at all.

 

[moonbogg]

This part-- > "Comcast likes net neutrality"

Her claiming that is about the most disingenuous statement ever. The only reason Comcast has started 'taking sides with net neutrality' is because they already had their asses handed to them over it.

Once you realize how insane it is to say Comcast likes net neutrality, then you can understand how redic her tweet is. It's like saying Obama likes republicans because he let them win congress. No, that's not it at all.

So then, the reality of the situation is that herself and Cruz are trying to trick people into letting net neutrality die. They don't want it because it prevents their friends from having unfair power, right? So these are bad people who want to have power and control over the rest of us. Right? They want to trick us into giving them unfair advantage and control over our use of the internet, so they can make more profit. They want to charge us big bucks to do the things we are already doing for free, Right?

 

[fskimospy]

So then, the reality of the situation is that herself and Cruz are trying to trick people into letting net neutrality die. They don't want it because it prevents their friends from having unfair power, right? So these are bad people who want to have power and control over the rest of us. Right? They want to trick us into giving them unfair advantage and control over our use of the internet, so they can make more profit. They want to charge us big bucks to do the things we are already doing for free, Right?

If you control the only way into people's houses over the Internet you can demand basically whatever you want from both individuals and the companies attempting to serve them.

Capital investments to start a whole new internet company are prohibitively expensive for new players so it's easy for the big telecoms to kill or limit smaller competition.

I think it's funny that Cruz and others attempt to paint this as anti-business. It's actually pro-business for literally everyone but the huge telecoms who are trying to extract monopoly rents.

 

[michal1980]

If you control the only way into people's houses over the Internet you can demand basically whatever you want from both individuals and the companies attempting to serve them.

Capital investments to start a whole new internet company are prohibitively expensive for new players so it's easy for the big telecoms to kill or limit smaller competition.

I think it's funny that Cruz and others attempt to paint this as anti-business. It's actually pro-business for literally everyone but the huge telecoms who are trying to extract monopoly rents.

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

 

[fskimospy]

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

You're a moron.

Go learn the difference between utility regulation and non-utility.

 

[moonbogg]

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

So you do not like net neutrality. You think its bad. Others think its good. Is there a real answer? Or is it a matter of who can simply trick more voters?

 

[theeedude]

Google and other Silicon Valley cloud companies should put up or shut up. Instead of the lame FWD.us effort, start a super PAC to go after opponents of net neutrality, put hundreds of millions into it, and make it known that if a politician doesn't toe the line, they will be targeted with a barrage of ads on this. Net neutrality is a political winner with the American people, and the money spent to support it politically would be well spent compared to being hostage to telcos for billions and billions of dollars going forward.

 

[moonbogg]

Google and other Silicon Valley cloud companies should put up or shut up. Instead of the lame FWD.us effort, start a super PAC to go after opponents of net neutrality, put hundreds of millions into it, and make it known that if a politician doesn't toe the line, they will be targeted with a barrage of ads on this. Net neutrality is a political winner with the American people, and the money spent to support it politically would be well spent compared to being hostage to telcos for billions and billions of dollars going forward.

Maybe that's what we really need. Maybe we need things to just free fall for a while. Let nature take it's course. Its going in that direction anyway, all you are doing is slowing it down. We need to really crash and burn, and then meaningful resistance will come. Not this petty "don't charge me" crap.

 

[TechBoyJK]

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

That's not an accurate comparison which makes it inapplicable to this situation. Might as well delete the post.

 

[brycejones]

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

A bit early in the day to be drunk isn't it?

 

[Strk]

because government regulations of utilities has clear created vast amounts of competition.

I mean I can get my power from... one company.

Cable, from one company.

That government regulation is brilliant.

The irony being net neutrality preventing corporations from doing exactly that with the internet.

 

[boomerang]

and boomerang we already pax taxes on internet service, dude. check your bill.

Maybe you do dude, but I surely don't. No federal state or local tax on my internet at all - dude.

 

[Dman8777]

It's not impossible but it'll be very hard and tricky to shut down everything.

The internet is the culmination of a darpa project to build a communication system capable of surviving a nuclear apocalypse. The internet is currently so decentralized that it would take world wide cooperation to shut it down. There are a couple choke points of course, the transocean cables for example.

 

[Kadarin]

There's probably also some "hey, Obama came out in favor of something, so I need to come out against it, hurr durr... So how do we spin this?"

Full retard, indeed.