Ted Bundy, Dahmer...

[Mill]

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Your debating logic and skills were not rational nor intelligent.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Maybe that's because you can't form a valid argument.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Your debating logic and skills were not rational nor intelligent.

Thanks for pointing that out, i don't know what I was thinking. Carry on.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Your debating logic and skills were not rational nor intelligent.

Thanks for pointing that out, i don't know what I was thinking. Carry on.

/me kicks daveymark

Hey, as long as your laying down, I'll jump in on this ;P

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Maybe that's because you can't form a valid argument.

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I should really learn how to form a valid argument before spewing false concepts here.

 

[WhiteWonder]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: WhiteWonder

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

Because it is possible for a serial killer to not have characteristics that a criminal psychologist would use. I'm talking about a basic definition of serial killer, i.e.,

"A serial killer is someone who murders several people over a longer period of time, sometimes over a number of years."

Kevorkian fits the description. It doesn't matter if he was sodomized as a child, or his father was an alcoholic.

That only counts if you consider what he's doing murder.

Again, a jury of 12 DOES consider it murder, which is why Kevorkian is sitting in jail right now. So, since what he is doing is murder, you have just said yourself that he is a serial killer. case closed.

How does this make him a serial killer again? Hold on, it doesn't! Case closed.

Erm, re-read the definition. "murders several people over the same time". He murdered one, and he confessed to doing the exact same thing over 130 times.

well, you see, i have this definition
"A person who attacks and kills victims one by one in a series of incidents."

and this one
"Someone who murders more than three victims one at a time in a relatively short interval."

and another
"Serial killers are individuals who have a history of multiple slayings of victims who were usually unknown to them beforehand. Their crimes are committed as a result of a compulsion that invariably has roots in the killer's (often dysfunctional) youth, as opposed to those who are motivated by financial gain (e.g. contract killers) or ideological/political motivations"

I just don't think he fits into most definitions of the word serial killer. But if he fits in yours (or wherever you got the definition,) that is cool with me.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Maybe that's because you can't form a valid argument.

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I should really learn how to form a valid argument before spewing false concepts here.

/me kicks him again

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Maybe that's because you can't form a valid argument.

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I should really learn how to form a valid argument before spewing false concepts here.

Spewing false concepts is exactly why your arguments aren't vaild.

If you correct one you'll fix the other.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one.

Maybe that's because you can't form a valid argument.

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I should really learn how to form a valid argument before spewing false concepts here.

If you're done, STO POSTING.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: daveymark
Looks like I opened a can of worms. I'm all for rational, intelligent debate, but some people here obviously have had their egos deflated. So flame on, I'm done with this one. In other words, you're all right, and I'm wrong. I apologize, I don't know what I was thinking.

I am all for a rational, intelligent debate, but, you never gave one. Instead, you offered stupid definitions and twisted opinions.

Why not just admit you got pwned and be done with it?

 

[WhiteWonder]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Ok, I see the problem now.

daveymark is confusing a mass-muderer with a serial killer. There is a distinct difference.

No, a mass murderer kills everyone at ONE time. Where have I stated such?

You did say it, but I think it was a typo or a bad cut and paste.

Erm, re-read the definition. "murders several people over the same time". He murdered one, and he confessed to doing the exact same thing over 130 times.

 

[BeauJangles]

The thing about K is that he was convicted because of a statue specifically against assisted suicide. He was acquitted of a few incidents in other states if I recall....

The people K killed clearly wanted to die, they organized everything and voluntarily pushed the button to end their lives. A serial killer is someone (this has been said) who takes lives unwillingly. Daveymark says that if a serial killer's victims were videotaped saying they wanted to die they would be the same as K, which might not be true. K did not coerce anyone into saying they wanted to die ? they approached him. They were people who had no desire to live and wanted to die with dignity before disease completely destroyed their bodies. I really don?t understand how you can have a problem with that? If someone WANTS to die because they have a terminal illness that nearly guarantees a painful and slow death, why not let them end their lives early? It saves the entire health care system money, and allows them to avoid experiencing horrible pain.

Getting back to the argument though, K wasn?t a serial killer because he only assisted people in dieing. Clearly these people wanted to end their lives because of their illnesses and K simply helped them do that. A serial killer kills for the sake of killing ? he doesn?t discriminate.