Ted Bundy, Dahmer...

[tec699]

Ted Bundy

Who was more brutal then Ted Bundy? It's been stated that he has probably killed over a 100 women during his killing spree.

What has got me thinking is why don't we hear of serial killings in the present? In the past, we had Dahmer, Bundy and others. Is it the media? Is it that much harder to be a serial killer now then it was in the past? Maybe technology has played a part in eliminating the serial killer. Everyone has a cell phone now so it should be easier to call the police then it was in the past.

 

[Gibsons]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01...necklace.ap/index.html

 

[Red Dawn]

Was Getz a Serial Killer? I thought he was a Vigilante killer.

 

[tec699]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Was Getz a Serial Killer? I thought he was a Vigilante killer.

Opps you're correct. I'll edit his name out of my sentence.

 

[anxi80]

i believe so. unless one is like john doe in se7en, with no history of a past or anything that can be linked to him. but even thats a bit of a reach. itd have to be a foreigner with a clean record who illegally comes over and just starts a spree and not get identified at the same time.

but now i feel like watching 'frequency' for some strange reason...

 

[Beau]

What about the DC Snipers, the cascade murders, UNABomber? The anthrax letters could have potentially made that list, too.

 

[PlasticJesus]

Goetz wasn't even a vigilante killer. He didn't kill anybody.

He shot four folks. None of them died.

 

[daveymark]

YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

yeah what about the snipers, what was that like 3 years ago?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

 

[atiyeh]

I don't think you could argue that about Dr. K, those people hit the button themselves. They were videotaped saying..I consent to this completely and under no duress. Dr. K was providing them a means to the end. 100% their choice.

 

[anxi80]

my memory is hazy, was the snipers actions ever linked to terrorism? wasnt muhammad a muslim-convert who was sympathetic to islamic-extremists and was motivated by their sentiments of disliking the u.s. ?

also when i hear the term serial killer.. i think more along the lines of richard ramirez "nightstalker", john wayne gacy and andrei chikatilo.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

because you're a moron?

assisted suicide is a choice made by the people involved.

serial killers kill people who don't want to die.

If that isn't clear enough for you, then maybe you should stop posting.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

I sense a blood pressure increase of 10% in the near future for you.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: atiyeh
I don't think you could argue that about Dr. K, those people hit the button themselves. They were videotaped saying..I consent to this completely and under no duress. Dr. K was providing them a means to the end. 100% their choice.

A slippery slope, but I'll take a ride anyway...So if Jeffrey Dahmer had his victims videotaped that they consent to it completely and under no durress, would he still be a serial killer?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

because you're a moron?

assisted suicide is a choice made by the people involved.

serial killers kill people who don't want to die.

If that isn't clear enough for you, then maybe you should stop posting.

wow, maybe you should have been Kevorkian's Legal Counsel? Then maybe he wouldn't have been convicted of murder. Nice try though.

 

[KarenMarie]

I think that there are still serial killers around...

... it is just that society is just so desensitized to it all, that it is not the shock horror is used to be, so it is not splashed acrossed the national news like it used to be.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: atiyeh
I don't think you could argue that about Dr. K, those people hit the button themselves. They were videotaped saying..I consent to this completely and under no duress. Dr. K was providing them a means to the end. 100% their choice.

A slippery slope, but I'll take a ride anyway...So if Jeffrey Dahmer had his victims videotaped that they consent to it completely and under no durress, would he still be a serial killer?

the video tape is not the point.

the people that were going to die anyway, who chose a peacefull death over an agonizing, painfull death is the point. They wanted to be incontrol of their life and death.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

Because it is possible for a serial killer to not have characteristics that a criminal psychologist would use. I'm talking about a basic definition of serial killer, i.e.,

"A serial killer is someone who murders several people over a longer period of time, sometimes over a number of years."

Kevorkian fits the description. It doesn't matter if he was sodomized as a child, or his father was an alcoholic.

 

[WhiteWonder]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

because you're a moron?

assisted suicide is a choice made by the people involved.

serial killers kill people who don't want to die.

If that isn't clear enough for you, then maybe you should stop posting.

wow, maybe you should have been Kevorkian's Legal Counsel? Then maybe he wouldn't have been convicted of murder. Nice try though.

Nah, I also wouldn't call Kevorkian a serial killer.

assisted suicide and murder are diffrent in my book, but that is a can of worms not worth opening.

Also it depends on where you get your "basic definition"

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

Because it is possible for a serial killer to not have characteristics that a criminal psychologist would use. I'm talking about a basic definition of serial killer, i.e.,

"A serial killer is someone who murders several people over a longer period of time, sometimes over a number of years."

Kevorkian fits the description. It doesn't matter if he was sodomized as a child, or his father was an alcoholic.

That only counts if you consider what he's doing murder.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: daveymark
YOu left out Kevorkian, who has killed over 130

:roll:

Don't think assisted suicide falls under the serial killer category.

let's see if he meets the requirements for serial killer:

preys on those who can't or don't want to save themselves. - check

convicted of at least one murder, and confessed to multiple others - check

Enjoys what he's doing when another life is taken - check


The fact is, he was convicted of murder, so how would all of the other killings not apply?

Could you try that again using actual characteristics that criminal psychologists use instead of just making up your own that fit your argument?

Because it is possible for a serial killer to not have characteristics that a criminal psychologist would use. I'm talking about a basic definition of serial killer, i.e.,

"A serial killer is someone who murders several people over a longer period of time, sometimes over a number of years."

Kevorkian fits the description. It doesn't matter if he was sodomized as a child, or his father was an alcoholic.

Cool, you just classified Gen. Patton as a serial killer.

Man, you are teh winnar!

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: atiyeh
I don't think you could argue that about Dr. K, those people hit the button themselves. They were videotaped saying..I consent to this completely and under no duress. Dr. K was providing them a means to the end. 100% their choice.

A slippery slope, but I'll take a ride anyway...So if Jeffrey Dahmer had his victims videotaped that they consent to it completely and under no durress, would he still be a serial killer?

the video tape is not the point.

the people that were going to die anyway, who chose a peacefull death over an agonizing, painfull death is the point. They wanted to be incontrol of their life and death.

A jury of 12 still calls it murder.