Techreport: A note on rumors about gtx 590 issues.

[insurgent]

I said "most" and "usually" and didn't generalize, I also pointed out that arguing over semantics is pointless. And of course price range doesn't matter, for me a guy who overclocks a 5750 to the limit is more of an enthusiast than a guy who buys a 6990 and uses it at stock.

 

[Dribble]

I suspect time spent looking at, talking about and generally enthusing about graphics cards are what make you an enthusiast - anyone who regularly checks out geek forums like this is bound to be considered one by normal people.

 

[bryanW1995]

You see, I don't like the idea of having a piece of electronics that requires more electricity than a mini stove running inside my computer, but that is me. I hope that they will soon find a solution to increase graphics before I need to replace my circuit breakers (2 pc in a room, through one circuit breaker...)

What are you worried about? You could custom build a heatsink/frying pan combo with a mini-fridge right next to it. You'd never have to leave your game room!!!

 

[TerabyteX]

That is pure opinion, sorry.

I SLI'd GTX280s at a cost of around $1100. Never touched the voltage. I would consider myself an enthusiast.

Putting the most expensive GPUs out of warranty is just plain dumb. The returns for overclocking GPUs are usually very small. This is especially true when you take into account that going from 150FPS to 210FPS is effectively doing nothing.

That's quite a change of POV as you were touting the overclocking abilities of the GTX 560 when it was launched, am I wrong? In that case, you are no different from a Mac user.

 

[SirPauly]

Enthusiast, at times, to me, is more of price-point, and this may be an ultra enthusiast class, price-point, product.

Over-all, to me, a low end gamer may be just as enthusiastic about PC gaming than a high-end gamer, or even more-so.

It depends on context, and semantic arguments, at times, become circular.

 

[Stoneburner]

IF you're one of the few people who is willing to buy a 6990 or a 590, it seems there's very little reason to go the 590 route. Why not get equivalent performance with less risk?

 

[initialised]

If you want to attempt to post facts, at least get them straight.

Fact: 8 review cards blew up, 6 independent reviewers, 2 reviewers had 2 cards blow up each and four reviewers had one card blow up.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=37

Two cards dead for these reviewers
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ro&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flab501.ro%2Fplaci-video%2Fnvidia-geforce-gtx-590-studiu-de-overclocking%2F12

Two cards dead for these reviewers as well
http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/1...boven-i-dramat

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_590/27.html

http://tbreak.com/tech/2011/03/zotac-gtx-590-review/3/

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/825-...e-gtx-590.html


Fact 2, both independent end-users who posted pictures of their blown up 590s show damage in the same place, take another look. This same area is where the reviewers experienced explosions as well.

EDIT: Another 590 goes up in flames http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4798645&postcount=295

Same location on all three cards. In the words of Crysis fans everywhere when discussing their feelings on Crysis 2, Maximum Fail.


Fact 3

GTX 590=turd ? We'll find out in the coming weeks when/if more reports of exploding 590s roll in.

That last picture burnt out while running Crysis 2 so definitely MAXIMUM FAIL[/gravel voice], 267.91 driver. I have another to test later, hopefully it wont go the same way with the 270.51 beta

 

[SirPauly]

Here is an OC edition:

Nvidia’s reference GPU clocks are 608MHz, but TGT pushed it to 692MHz on the Ultra Charged version.

http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/item/22288-point-of-view-/-tgt-gtx-590-beast-previewed

It looks look they're using the latest drivers.

 

[initialised]

Same driver that killed my EVGA Classified

 

[bryanW1995]

From Lab 501:

"Instead of this we have but the failure of the year for that team ready PCB design and the design of the VRM has made a very stupid thing, under the most bleak expectations, and it's impossible for anyone to producing something weaker that at this level."

Pretty obvious cost cutting was the no.1 criteria for component selection when it came to performance ... except for the GPU selection. Very odd. Just doesn't make sense to use the 580 chips and then leave so much performance on the table, especially with the available cooling system headroom ... except maybe to the bean counters.

I see no upside for Nvidia here.

I really don't think that they were "cost cutting" so much as they didn't expect AMD to be so aggressive with their own sandwich card.

 

[WelshBloke]

Same driver that killed my EVGA Classified

Have you just had a GTX590 fail as well?

Details please?

 

[bryanW1995]

there is a beta afterburner that allows you to change the voltage.But other than that i dont think you can change it.But why in the world would anyone want to up the voltage on a 450 watt card?

sounds like amd did a better job than nvidia of preventing people from blowing up the card. Something tells me that next time a high end card comes out, NV will go WAY above and beyond the call of duty to ensure that nobody puts crazy volts through it and/or blows it up.

 

[formulav8]

The valid term for those who overclock/overvolt/over-everything is called a "Tweaker".

Tweaker is a more extreme enthusiast. Enthusiast are much more common than Tweakers. Most people who hang out on this forum is an Enthusiast. Not everyone is a Tweaker.


Jason

 

[WelshBloke]

Enthusiast, at times, to me, is more of price-point, and this may be an ultra enthusiast class, price-point, product.

Over-all, to me, a low end gamer may be just as enthusiastic about PC gaming than a high-end gamer, or even more-so.

It depends on context, and semantic arguments, at times, become circular.

I'd argue that enthusiasts do tinker and overclock and try and wring the most out of their equipment. Buying the most expensive stuff and then running it all stock wouldnt be really, at least IMHO. Not that theres anything wrong with running all stock.

 

[Red Storm]

Same driver that killed my EVGA Classified

Considering you only have 6 posts, it might be more useful if you provided us with some details.

 

[SirPauly]

This is probably the same initialised:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4798627&postcount=562

 

[OCGuy]

I’m an enthusiast but I don’t overclock. I’d also never use an SLI or CF based solution, unless maybe if they implemented an exceptional form of anti-aliasing not available on single cards.

Then you aren't an enthusisast! You are no different than a Mac user!

I overclock, just not overvolt, my GPUs, and I am not an "enthusiast" either according to a random person from the internet...

Somehow overclocking and overvolting are being blended together since the 590 launch. Finding the max clocks your card can handle on stock voltage and killing your warranty with adding voltage are two different things.

 

[badb0y]

Overclocking voids warranties too according to nVidia. It's the AIBs who are stepping up for AMD and nVidia and providing warranties for overclocking/overvolting.

 

[MentalIlness]

I rarely overclock. I do have my i7 860 up to 3.4 GHz though. That is without messing with any voltages. Not comfortable with that stuff. And the GTX590 IMHO really doesn't need to be overclocked. Others may disagree, and maybe it's just that I can't be bothered with o/c'ing most of the time.
To each his own but the ones who don't never need worry about their warranty.

Sounds like to me, your making excuses for not wanting to "overclock" your GTX590. Why ? It also seems to me, based on the bolded above, you for a fact know there is a problem, and are just too worried to OC your GPU.

Subtle, but true.

 

[TerabyteX]

Then you aren't an enthusisast! You are no different than a Mac user!

I overclock, just not overvolt, my GPUs, and I am not an "enthusiast" either according to a random person from the internet...

Somehow overclocking and overvolting are being blended together since the 590 launch. Finding the max clocks your card can handle on stock voltage and killing your warranty with adding voltage are two different things.

That's why you aren't an enthusiast. Only enthusiast who are acknowledged or familiarized with overclocking, will not kill a videocard or CPU for that matter. So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking? Skimping on VRM quality it seems. Just enjoy your Mac computer which is similar to a GTX 590, pretending to be cool while they aren't. :thumbsdown:

 

[OCGuy]

That's why you aren't an enthusiast. Only enthusiast who are acknowledged or familiarized with overclocking, will not kill a videocard or CPU for that matter. So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking? Skimping on VRM quality it seems. Just enjoy your Mac computer which is similar to a GTX 590, pretending to be cool while they aren't. :thumbsdown:

......

 

[bryanW1995]

Then you aren't an enthusisast! You are no different than a Mac user!

I overclock, just not overvolt, my GPUs, and I am not an "enthusiast" either according to a random person from the internet...

Somehow overclocking and overvolting are being blended together since the 590 launch. Finding the max clocks your card can handle on stock voltage and killing your warranty with adding voltage are two different things.

I wouldn't call myself a "tweaker" necessarily, but I did use afterburner to overclock/overvolt my gtx 460. Typically I don't do this with video cards, but it seemed everybody + dog was doing it without issue so I decided to try it. Plus, rivatuner has been around for a LONG time and I have a lot of confidence in them to keep the overclock/overvolt settings to relatively safe levels. bios mods/etc would probably fall into the "tweaking" category for me.

 

[SirPauly]

. So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking?

They didn't kill over-clocking but looks like they did stop over-volting.

 

[Dark Shroud]

So I wonder why nVidia just decided to kill overclocking?

Nvidia is trying to kill it before it kills them.

 

[Seero]

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/enthusiast
"A person who enjoys using computers and electronic equipment. Enthusiasts like technology and are willing to learn more of the ins and outs of a product than the average consumer, who just wants to use it. An enthusiast is more like a "prosumer."

-by that definition you're not an enthusiast and are no different from someone who buys a Mac.

Enthusiasts, in the context of this community, usually overclocks, but that's just semantics, who cares since there are so many differing opinions. But overclocking these cards are not dumb, just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's dumb. I don't climb mountains or do extreme sports, but I don't call people who do dumb, and they're actually risking their lives. They push the limits and show what we can achieve.

If you are here reading this, that you are an enthusiast. Anyone you spend time reading forums about computer parts are enthusiasts. Anyone you will read about computer parts are enthusiasts.

en·thu·si·ast/enˈTHo͞ozēˌast/Noun
1. A person who is highly interested in a particular activity or subject.

Note that enthusiast and hardware doesn't go together. You can be enthusiastic towards something, like hardware. You can however be an enthusiast to overclocking computer hardwares. If so, then any computer hardware works. Go OC your calculator.

What are you worried about? You could custom build a heatsink/frying pan combo with a mini-fridge right next to it. You'd never have to leave your game room!!!

Yes, except the fact that i am using those mini-fridges to cool those frying pans. If only I can figure out a way to convert the heat energy to power those mini-fridge ...

Sounds like to me, your making excuses for not wanting to "overclock" your GTX590. Why ? It also seems to me, based on the bolded above, you for a fact know there is a problem, and are just too worried to OC your GPU.

Subtle, but true.

Quit your opinions on Keys, we don't care. I have tons of opinions about you too, so what? You don't like to see them, nor I like to post them. You have your opinion about OC, and so does the rest of us! Can't we, like you, simply post our opinion on OC?