Technology in 10000 years time

[Muse]

I believe we'll probably have solved many of the issues of today including energy, water, pollution issues. We will have worked through many resource issues the nature of which we can partly imagine now, partly can't. We'll have worked through a lot of ecology issues and they will be way different. Many species will have perished, some rued, some not missed. Whether we'll be earth bound, I don't know. I think we'll find that even if we can develop means to migrate to places beyond earth, we may decide we prefer it here.

I believe that we will have evolved way beyond the competitive ideological and religious conflicts that litter the landscape in our time. Most of the problems that we see on a day to day basis in present times will be ancient history.

Flying cars!

Well, I guess it's feasible in the same way that driverless cars are feasible, looks like we'll have those within a decade on our roads! In 10k years, driverless flying cars should be child's play. However, it may be considered pure foolishness.

The tech for harvesting and eating humans will be perfected by then.

There's a sci-fi movie I first watched a few weeks ago, made in the 1970's called Soylent Green on this very subject.

in the future we will have mastered genomics and have the ability to create whatever life we want. not that dna will even matter. what good is encoding a blueprint when we can directly assemble biologic forms using nano(pico(femto(etc))) technology?

we will have similarly conquered our environment. fully in control of atmosphere, weather, sea level etc. people are underestimating how fast tehcnology is progressing.

I think this is overly optimistic. What I see again and again is our powerlessness in the face of the monumental forces of nature. Yes, we may be able to divert or blow up an asteroid on a collision course with the planet, but stopping a hurricane, preventing tornados, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, reversing climate change, these may be things we will never be able to do.

 

[moonbogg]

Our planet could be in the middle of an alien metropolis, with them observing us from inches away, and we wouldn't know. Take our civilization now, add 5 million years of advancement and you end up with something like heaven. Beyond ordinary matter, beyond ordinary space, beyond everything.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Think of the history these people will have. I am envious of them.

They will be able to see people talking and moving from 10,000 years ago. Imagine being able to see your great x 100 grandfather.

I think that's what sucks most about dying. Life is like picking up a really awesome book and reading a few pages and it's the most interesting thing you've ever read, but then it disintegrates in your hand and you never know how the story ends.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Flying cars!

I don't think those will ever happen.
But barring extreme death situations again I don't think we will wipe ourselves out. Build past the laws of physics, we have 10k years for this thread, billions and trillions left in the universe. Who says we won't build out of space/time itself and survive the next universe crunch to come into a new universe for another 100000000000000000 billion years?

With extreme situations I think we will survive, but only 1m and it won't go well for the next 10k.

 

[moonbogg]

Think of the history these people will have. I am envious of them.

They will be able to see people talking and moving from 10,000 years ago. Imagine being able to see your great x 100 grandfather.

I think that's what sucks most about dying. Life is like picking up a really awesome book and reading a few pages and it's the most interesting thing you've ever read, but then it disintegrates in your hand and you never know how the story ends.

Yeah that's true...unless life forms aren't what we think they are. I believe we are machines that assembled themselves. Consciousness is a process, not a thing and there is nothing unique or special about me that can't be replicated or replaced in the form of someone else. Someone will be around to see the later chapters, and its just as good for it to be them and not me because I don't see much difference between us.
I am interchangeable with anyone else. All that is required is a consciousness and a sense of ownership of that consciousness and BAM, you're golden.

 

[Muse]

Think of the history these people will have. I am envious of them.

They will be able to see people talking and moving from 10,000 years ago. Imagine being able to see your great x 100 grandfather.

Yes, assuming nothing catastrophic happens, people will have access to a massive amount of information about human history, and what is now considered human history will be something intensely greater in 10k years.

I think that's what sucks most about dying. Life is like picking up a really awesome book and reading a few pages and it's the most interesting thing you've ever read, but then it disintegrates in your hand and you never know how the story ends.

Well, I think you have to live as if you don't know, won't know or even care about how it ends. "It's still the same old story, a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die, the world will always welcome lovers as time goes by..."

 

[moonbogg]

Yes, assuming nothing catastrophic happens, people will have access to a massive amount of information about human history, and what is now considered human history will be something intensely greater in 10k years.Well, I think you have to live as if you don't know, won't know or even care about how it ends. "It's still the same old story, a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die, the world will always welcome lovers as time goes by..."

If I could see the future and if I saw an amazing civilization sprawling throughout the universe, I couldn't be atheist after seeing something like that. Right now its easy to write everything off as a fluke due to suffering and all the crap we deal with, but the grand scenario of a distant future? Give me a break. Something like that can't be an accident.

 

[Muse]

I don't think those will ever happen.
But barring extreme death situations again I don't think we will wipe ourselves out. Build past the laws of physics, we have 10k years for this thread, billions and trillions left in the universe. Who says we won't build out of space/time itself and survive the next universe crunch to come into a new universe for another 100000000000000000 billion years?

With extreme situations I think we will survive, but only 1m and it won't go well for the next 10k.

I put this to a physics student I met a few weeks ago (I was a physics major a few decades ago). He said there can't be a crunch and a new universe. He says it's proven that the universe began at the Big Bang and that there won't be another and there was nothing before. I think that's a tough thing to believe, don't know if he's right. I'm kind of out of touch with theoretical physics, astrophysics and astronomical/cosmological theory at this point.

 

[ronniedavisk2_9]

I doubt we will even be around by that time. We probably would go extinct by then, either by mass famine, natural disasters, war, etc.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Let's get fusion going before we dream of a distant future.

Energy on that scale would change life as we know it.

Energy is a middling problem. Eventually we'll find a way to get what we need but then what? We have a problem of increasing population and affluence. Stripping the planet bare isn't something that would end well, and providing sufficient materials by space mining is going to be fabulously expensive. What we really need more than anything is to get the world population down to a few percent of what it is now.

 

[Muse]

It's fun to speculate on what might be in 10k years, but it's actually more fertile ground to speculate on what has happened here on earth. We have the evidence, most all the evidence we'll ever have right now at our disposal.

 

[moonbogg]

It's fun to speculate on what might be in 10k years, but it's actually more fertile ground to speculate on what has happened here on earth. We have the evidence, most all the evidence we'll ever have right now at our disposal.

There is evidence that we cannot yet interpret. We need more time IMO to form a good picture of what happened and whether our situation is unique, common, rare etc. I think its anything but rare, as a guess.

 

[John Connor]

:thumbsup::thumbsup: And very profound plot as to what happened to us as a people.

 

[John Connor]

Political future:
I predict the collapse of the USA and a new government. That is probably coming in short order anyway. A second revolution will happen. A revolution against the government just like the French revolution.

Tech future: Holographic images will spawn from one's node and you can interact with it. You think people walking into walls and shit with smartphones are bad now wait till holographic projections beam from their head ware.

I can go on and on. 10,000 years is a long damn time. Tech will be smaller and power powerful as it always is. Your computer will be in the form of a watch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

I have no idea what people will do for jobs since robots will do everything in the factories. Tech jobs and mechanics maybe, but as technology moves along they can self repair. Which brings me to the singularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

Basically, in 10,000 years we can all kiss our ass's goodbye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgBViHeiSKM

 

[Muse]

Political future:
I predict the collapse of the USA and a new government. That is probably coming in short order anyway. A second revolution will happen. A revolution against the government just like the French revolution.

Tech future: Holographic images will spawn from one's node and you can interact with it. You think people walking into walls and shit with smartphones are bad now wait till holographic projections beam from their head ware.

I can go on and on. 10,000 years is a long damn time. Tech will be smaller and power powerful as it always is. Your computer will be in the form of a watch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

I have no idea what people will do for jobs since robots will do everything in the factories. Tech jobs and mechanics maybe, but as technology moves along they can self repair. Which brings me to the singularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

Basically, in 10,000 years we can all kiss our asses goodbye.

Ass will be a thing of the pass.

 

[John Connor]

I hope it's the last of the jackass party.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The twenty-fifth generation of the first AI and with a ten to the tenth intelligence will postulate that the extinct biological species found after intensive digs died out for one reason. Compulsive fapping to internet porn. Oh mourn the sticky monitors!

edit: forget the astonishment at a species that evidence showed ate outside and shit inside their dwellings?

 

[Leyawiin]

10k years from now the human race will be extinct.

Nah - we're like people in Fallout 3. Like cockroaches.

 

[Bateluer]

Nah - we're like people in Fallout 3. Like cockroaches.

In Doctor Who, humans lasted until the death of the very last starts in the Universe. The year 1 Trillion, I think it was.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

In Doctor Who, humans lasted until the death of the very last starts in the Universe. The year 1 Trillion, I think it was.

A bit later than that IIRC.

Spoiler

Then we went back to today via a timewarm and tried to live here by killing our past selves with the paradox sustained by a time machine.

Not cool. :|

 

[Jeff7]

In Doctor Who, humans lasted until the death of the very last starts in the Universe. The year 1 Trillion, I think it was.

That's kind of a dim view of things.

"Sorry folks, this is as good as it gets."


If humans are the apex of biological evolution........Universe, you need to set your standards a little bit higher.


Crocodiles have a better track record than we do thus far. That form factor has been quite durable, though I'm guessing that they don't have any evolved response for surviving the death of a planet's parent star. (And at this point in time, neither do we.)

 

[Bubbleawsome]

That's kind of a dim view of things.

"Sorry folks, this is as good as it gets."


If humans are the apex of biological evolution........Universe, you need to set your standards a little bit higher.


Crocodiles have a better track record than we do thus far. That form factor has been quite durable, though I'm guessing that they don't have any evolved response for surviving the death of a planet's parent star. (And at this point in time, neither do we.)

We did keep evolving in the show though. There were millions of other types of humans, some more animal and some more advanced. Lots of aliens too. The dark sky was the end of it all though and that's why we would need to build past space/time eventually because the universe will go out.

 

[John Connor]

Future people will listen to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

 

[MongGrel]

10,000 years ago, we were just starting to learn farming and city building. We can barely predict with any accuracy what the future will be like 10 years from now, let alone 10,000.

I was going to elaborate more later, but I think you nailed it on the head right there.

People didn't even have internet use for the most part 20 years ago, you're trying to predict 10,000 out ?

 

[MongGrel]

There's a sci-fi movie I first watched a few weeks ago, made in the 1970's called Soylent Green on this very subject.

I liked Cloud Atlas myself, I thought the Soylent Green reference in there was pretty well done.

Not to be too pessimistic, but I predict in the next 100 years some idiots are going to start setting off nukes one place or another and exterminate everyone more or less.

It's been in the works a long time now.

Large Mutant Raccons will inherit the Earth.

:sneaky: