not that i have any negative intentions, but how does Intel or AMD know if we've ever overclocked the CPU when/if we send it in for RMA?
technically speaking, how does Intel/AMD know if you've overclocked your CPU?
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Because the warranty does not cover overclocking.
There really is no guarantee, because the chip either works or it doesn't. If it works it will continue to work for 3 years (the warranty); if it breaks before then then you obviously did did something to it. If you send it back and it's burn out you won't get another one.
There really is no guarantee, because the chip either works or it doesn't. If it works it will continue to work for 3 years (the warranty); if it breaks before then then you obviously did did something to it. If you send it back and it's burn out you won't get another one.
I'm confident that the folks who OC 'til a chip blows is a very tiny %, so there is probably no cost increase associated with that.
Over the years, we've been given reason to believe that neither AMD nor Intel have much in the way of morality, either.
Of course, AMD encourages OCing with the "Black Edition" processors.
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I don't believe they can tell from a physical change within the die perspective but careless overclocking which results processor catastrophic failure often leaves "out of the box" artifacts which are easily discernible.
I suppose jacking VTT up to some insane level on a 45nm chip until it refuses to boot would go un detected by the Colombo's working for INTC. :laugh:
That kind of abuse is not limited to your CPU, however. You can easily toast your motherboard playing with such silly values for long. I have one such DFI LPUTX48 that will NOT run any 45nm quad core CPU at any speed reliably due to VRM damage. A dual core works though. I'm sure playing with GTL's would probably be able to compensate but who has the time especially when the X48 is outdated now?!
I suppose jacking VTT up to some insane level on a 45nm chip until it refuses to boot would go un detected by the Colombo's working for INTC. :laugh:
That kind of abuse is not limited to your CPU, however. You can easily toast your motherboard playing with such silly values for long. I have one such DFI LPUTX48 that will NOT run any 45nm quad core CPU at any speed reliably due to VRM damage. A dual core works though. I'm sure playing with GTL's would probably be able to compensate but who has the time especially when the X48 is outdated now?!
Originally posted by: Rubycon
I don't believe they can tell from a physical change within the die perspective but careless overclocking which results processor catastrophic failure often leaves "out of the box" artifacts which are easily discernible.
I suppose jacking VTT up to some insane level on a 45nm chip until it refuses to boot would go un detected by the Colombo's working for INTC. :laugh:
That kind of abuse is not limited to your CPU, however. You can easily toast your motherboard playing with such silly values for long. I have one such DFI LPUTX48 that will NOT run any 45nm quad core CPU at any speed reliably due to VRM damage. A dual core works though. I'm sure playing with GTL's would probably be able to compensate but who has the time especially when the X48 is outdated now?!
Forget you, P35 for lyfe!
i burned a mobo overclocking a t-bird 1700+ once. i still have the chip, replaced an epox something something for an asus a7n8x deluxe and it still runs, oc'ed and all
Originally posted by: Rubycon
My bad! I should fix that to say that LGA-775 is outdated now.
I didnt want to get robbed for 0-10% performance when i7 was introduced... Expensive motherboards and high DDR3 prices kept my price/performance ass out of there.
Now that DDR3 is coming down to sane levels, i just need a nice ~$100-$130 i7 motherboard to get me to bite.
manimal
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People have been so worried about ruining chips when overclocking for years. For me I have never had any cpu go dead on me in 15 years of overclocking. What I have done is go trough more boards than I can remember. I have gone trough 7 evga 680is, 3 ip35E's and 4 matx abit boards in the last two years alone. Now the 680i was a crap design so i cant take the blame for those pieces of junk but the ip35e I chalk up to 24/7 operation with my q6600s fully loaded. 1.45 volts on the q6600s now for what feels like 3 years has done nothing to them. I cant complain about going trough the ip35s either since I got them for 45 bucks each on clearance.
taltamir
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Rubycon
My bad! I should fix that to say that LGA-775 is outdated now.
I didnt want to get robbed for 0-10% performance when i7 was introduced... Expensive motherboards and high DDR3 prices kept my price/performance ass out of there.
Now that DDR3 is coming down to sane levels, i just need a nice ~$100-$130 i7 motherboard to get me to bite.
i just specced the cheapest ram, mobo, and i7 CPU at 520$ on the egg... its still too expensive.
there's no way to tell if the cpu failed due to overclocking. if u "burnt" it has nothing to do w/ anything as it can be "burnt" for a number of reasons. I burnt my first cpu by not using any thermal past (just the patch that came at the bottom of the cheap heatsink at the time). If u install the heatsink wrong u can destroy the cpu too. They really dont care to check because the overclocking community is a very small percentage of their consumers.
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