[TECH Report] As the second turns: the web digests our game testing methods

[DiogoDX]

TR's tests with the new driver show virtually no frame rate loss and decreased latency.
That basically kicks sand in the face of the whole "AMD musta cheated" campaigners who will now need another excuse as to why Kepler is just, plain, slower.

Agreed.:thumbsup: Now that the slower but smoother campaign is going down I wonder what is the next move.

 

[Lepton87]

And yet there are many people who couldn't tell difference in blind tests between those drivers. I never played on GCN cards so I can't tell if it would bother me. 6 series had better latency then fermi yet no nv fanboy rised that issue and they didn't complain that their Fermi cards lacked smoothness. double standards indeed. That's why I particularly dislike NV fanboys. Still, it's good for actual owners of GCN cards who were actually bothered by this and I mean bothered before Tech report broadcasted it. Confirmation bias is a very real phenomena.
Also by ONE game loosing a paltry 8% many nv fanboys claim that AMD sacrificed smoothness for FPS. 8% in one game. It's nothing.

 

[Homeles]

And yet there are many people who couldn't tell difference in blind tests between those drivers.

Because they don't care, or don't know what to look for.

Also by ONE game loosing a paltry 8% many nv fanboys claim that AMD sacrificed smoothness for FPS. 8% in one game. It's nothing.

Many? I count zero. Where are you seeing all these fanboys?

8% is also quite a bit when we're talking about drivers.

 

[Keysplayr]

Your post was made on the 14th. According to the TR forums, that admission wasn't until January 2nd. I don't think 13 days is a month, on any calendar.



So 13+X = Over a month? I suppose if you know the value of X that might be true, but the only thing we know is that it was reported to be in-progress on the 2nd. It could have been in progress an hour, week, month, etc… before the 2nd of January - But we don't know and therefore don't know it was over a month. It was presumptuous to even state such a thing.

TR may have reported the issue before January 2nd. But AMD didn't acknowledge it until the 2nd of January. To me, it sounds like they have some decent turn around time.

With that said, we don't have the final results yet. We know that 13.2 fixes most of the issues regarding it, but more testing needs to be done and we need to make sure AMD continues with the low latancy priority.

You realize that this driver isnt the rewrite. Right?

 

[ArchAngel777]

You realize that this driver isnt the rewrite. Right?

I thought you had me on ignore after you sent me that hateful nerd rage private message?

But to answer your question, I did realize that. But not really sure how that changes the fact that you were exaggerating.

 

[railven]

Also by ONE game loosing a paltry 8% many nv fanboys claim that AMD sacrificed smoothness for FPS. 8% in one game. It's nothing.

Caught my eye, before I die, just wanted to comment - I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who said 8% and that was just a rough estimate.

I never knew I was an Nvidia fanboy!? Color me surprised haha.

 

[SirPauly]

Hehe, indeed!

 

[Lepton87]

Caught my eye, before I die, just wanted to comment - I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who said 8% and that was just a rough estimate.

I never knew I was an Nvidia fanboy!? Color me surprised haha.

It wasn't directed at you, I read other forums. And it's very accurate number, in fact it is 8.196% since their tests reported FPS averaged to numbers without decimal points so I did the same. Besides Keysplayr was screaming that AMD sacrificed smoothness for FPS since the original article, but nobody should take him seriously when he talks about AMD.

 

[BoFox]

Caught my eye, before I die, just wanted to comment - I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who said 8% and that was just a rough estimate.

I never knew I was an Nvidia fanboy!? Color me surprised haha.

Apoppin said that you didn't last a month over at ABT! Come on, let's make it count up to 30 days, at least! I do miss you - and I can tell that Balla missed ya!

 

[Lepton87]

What I find very funny and telling is that just 2 years ago when Fermi produced worse frame latency than competing AMD's products nV fanboys, Keysplayr included never complained about lack of smoothness on their Fermi cards.

 

[Keysplayr]

I thought you had me on ignore after you sent me that hateful nerd rage private message?

But to answer your question, I did realize that. But not really sure how that changes the fact that you were exaggerating.

You're long gone bro. Have a good one.

 

[Will Robinson]

Well with the new latency fix and a memory manager re write on the way we are pretty much back to how things were.
GCN series cards are faster and cheaper and overclock better than Kepler,not to mention thrash the pants off it in most compute apps.:thumbsup:

Perhaps they are pinning their hopes on some recently "acquired" research to help them muddle through...:whiste:

 

[notty22]

waste of time

 

[Whitestar127]

Its great to see they are beginning to address the problem. AMD has had superior hardware this generation, clearly has the better platform for triple screen gaming and yet I have been unable to use the cards due to severe microstutter. I think soon the time will come when I can switch back to the 7970's, see the performance I expect from them and sell the 680's, which have at least produced reliable performance if not stellar performance especially at high resolutions.

Yes, but all this was just with a single card, wasn't it? What's the situation on Crossfire/SLI? Are there any 13.2 tests on that?

 

[Keysplayr]

Well with the new latency fix and a memory manager re write on the way we are pretty much back to how things were.
GCN series cards are faster and cheaper and overclock better than Kepler,not to mention thrash the pants of it in most compute apps.:thumbsup:

Perhaps they are pinning their hopes on some recently "acquired" research to help them muddle through...:whiste:

Will. Do you, or more to the point can you, notice anything in the TR graphs?

I just want to see if you realize.

 

[Will Robinson]

Read it all, hot off the press at TR even before you did.

 

[Granseth]

Will. Do you, or more to the point can you, notice anything in the TR graphs?

Stopp being a smart ass. Did you notice which 660Ti card they used?

Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP!

 

[Whitestar127]

Will. Do you, or more to the point can you, notice anything in the TR graphs?

660 Ti is faster and smoother.
Do I win something?

No, my name is not Will. But seriously, you two should stop with the bickering.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Anyone still deying microstutter still?

And those that did...have you stopped denying facts?

 

[parvadomus]

660 Ti is faster and smoother on TWIMTBP titles .

Fixed. :thumbsup:

 

[Granseth]

Fixed. :thumbsup:

No, it's not faster. The card used in the test is 15% OC

 

[Lonbjerg]

Fixed. :thumbsup:

You even know what TWIMTP means and what it entaols and dosn't?

 

[Homeles]

Fixed. :thumbsup:

Except that some of the titles the 7950 did poorly in were Gaming Evolved titles (Hitman Absolution, Sleeping Dogs).

Good job missing that fact.

 

[Will Robinson]

660 Ti is faster and smoother.
Do I win something?

No, my name is not Will. But seriously, you two should stop with the bickering.

Here enjoy the benchies.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=550

Turn up the clocks on Tahiti for more fun and it waves bye bye...

 

[Rvenger]

Here enjoy the benchies.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=550

Turn up the clocks on Tahiti for more fun and it waves bye bye...

Don't forget to turn up the voltage too!