Teachers telling kids private ownership is wrong..

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Originally posted by: Journer
this is so crazy...yet another reason ill never live on the west coast....if someone were to purpose that crap in AL they rednecks would come out of the hills guns blazing...but hey, at least granny would have her land. :)

Yeah, I'm itching to get out this hellhole known as San Jose, CA and start living it up in the paradise on earth known as Alabama
 

shortylickens

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I'm suprised no one mentioned this already but Seattle is also the place where the public schools decided that only whites can be racist.
 

GoingUp

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I'd show up at their houses with about 10 hobos so we could all take a dump in their public bathrooms and eat the food out of the public refridgerator. Then I'd borrow their public car and go for a ride.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
I'm suprised no one mentioned this already but Seattle is also the place where the public schools decided that only whites can be racist.

link?
 

TekDemon

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Originally posted by: Amused
And Im sorry, communism IS 100% flawed, as is socialism. Capitalism may not be perfect, but it is the only workable system given human nature... and the ONLY system that preserves individual rights and freedoms.

Socialism and communism ALWAYS result in a loss of freedoms. Be they economic or social freedoms.
lol, while socialism and communism may result in loss of freedoms, it's pretty hilarious that you believe capitalism to be the only system that preserves individual rights and freedoms, when the reality is that before many socialist based reforms were taken in the US, it was more like the insanely wealthy would make 7 year olds go work in factories (seriously, that's what would happen in a pure capitalist society without public schools and laws preventing child labor...or is child labor one of the "freedoms" of capitalism?)

And for what it's worth, socialism doesn't always mean soviet bloc insanity, just look at countries like Sweden.

Anyways, the real problem with socialism/communism is that people aren't really very incentivized to work particilarly hard, otherwise it'd actually be kinda neat in a freaky utopian sort of way.

Point is, neither system is really very practical taken to extremes, which is why the most successful countries all use a blend of socialism and capitalism, where you don't let either run overly rampant.
 

TekDemon

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'd show up at their houses with about 10 hobos so we could all take a dump in their public bathrooms and eat the food out of the public refridgerator. Then I'd borrow their public car and go for a ride.

If this news story were even true they probably don't own cars and take public transportation or ride a bike or walk (ferry boats?).

 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'd show up at their houses with about 10 hobos so we could all take a dump in their public bathrooms and eat the food out of the public refridgerator. Then I'd borrow their public car and go for a ride.

If this news story were even true they probably don't own cars and take public transportation or ride a bike or walk (ferry boats?).

But they have to live somewhere. And by their logic, their home/apartment is public property.

And then I'd just take their bike :)
 

91TTZ

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Ideas like this generally only fly in relatively well-off areas where the people have some money. The people all share the same ideology so among that small group, something like this would work. However, they'd quickly see the fault in this system if they lived where I live. They'd come home one day and see that all of their "community structures" have been filled with lazy, undesirable people from the ghetto. These people will refuse to work but will want to live in those houses. They'll also infest it with crime. After a few months, those liberals will be actively seeking private ownership laws where they can kick out the deadbeats that take advantage of their utopian system.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'd show up at their houses with about 10 hobos so we could all take a dump in their public bathrooms and eat the food out of the public refridgerator. Then I'd borrow their public car and go for a ride.

If this news story were even true they probably don't own cars and take public transportation or ride a bike or walk (ferry boats?).

The public transportation or ferry will be filled up with the deadbeats that I previously posted about. They won't want to work, they'll just want you to cart their worthless asses around all day for their enjoyment.
 

Kwaipie

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So if these people are communists, what do you call the people that want to shut down this private school?
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=022107C

Some Seattle school children are being told to be skeptical of private property rights. This lesson is being taught by banning Legos.
A ban was initiated at the Hilltop Children's Center in Seattle. According to an article in the winter 2006-07 issue of "Rethinking Schools" magazine, the teachers at the private school

Read that far and stopped, this thread is pointless now that it's been pointed out that it's a private school. It's no longer any of your business, unless you have a kid going there

/thread
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Its the great undermining of our society, something Democrats have been working decades at. The best way to change a society is to reprogram the future generations. The best way to do that is through the education system.

Yes, it's a grand conspiracy...

Or maybe people like you are just crazy. No, that couldn't be!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: Amused
And Im sorry, communism IS 100% flawed, as is socialism. Capitalism may not be perfect, but it is the only workable system given human nature... and the ONLY system that preserves individual rights and freedoms.

Socialism and communism ALWAYS result in a loss of freedoms. Be they economic or social freedoms.
lol, while socialism and communism may result in loss of freedoms, it's pretty hilarious that you believe capitalism to be the only system that preserves individual rights and freedoms, when the reality is that before many socialist based reforms were taken in the US, it was more like the insanely wealthy would make 7 year olds go work in factories (seriously, that's what would happen in a pure capitalist society without public schools and laws preventing child labor...or is child labor one of the "freedoms" of capitalism?)

And for what it's worth, socialism doesn't always mean soviet bloc insanity, just look at countries like Sweden.

Anyways, the real problem with socialism/communism is that people aren't really very incentivized to work particilarly hard, otherwise it'd actually be kinda neat in a freaky utopian sort of way.

Point is, neither system is really very practical taken to extremes, which is why the most successful countries all use a blend of socialism and capitalism, where you don't let either run overly rampant.

A pure capitalist system can have ethics and morals. It does not equate to anarchism, as much as the socialists would have you believe.

Ethics were different pre and peri-industrial revolution. Child labor was considered normal as children came from agrarian communities to industrial communities. Kids had been working on farms for hundreds of years before th industrial revolution. That they ended up going to work in factories was a very normal progression given the times.

Morals and ethics changed and child labor ended (thankfully).

Factory owners didn't kidnap kids. Kids were sent to work by their parents.

So that's a silly, moot point. Capitalism does not equate to child labor.

Capitalism is about individual freedom. Socialism is about collectivism and always results in individual oppression. Anything that holds the collective over the individual will result in oppression.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: shortylickens
I'm suprised no one mentioned this already but Seattle is also the place where the public schools decided that only whites can be racist.
link?
I just realized that someone actually responded to one of my posts, sorry the reply took so long.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=seattle+public+schools+racism

If you read further into this you will see they didnt like all the negative attention they were getting and pussied out by redefining it once or twice more.
Also along the same issue was private ownership and a bunch of other stuff.