Teacher wan'ts to hold son back in 1st grade..UPDATE been tested

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lupi

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Well, if they hold that many kids back they'll increase their chances of fielding state championship athletic squads in high school when they've got college kids playing against high schoolers.
 

JTsyo

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no point robbing the kids of a year. They could have taken a year off after graduation (HS or college) and done something fun and still be at this pace.
 

kalrith

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Well, if they hold that many kids back they'll increase their chances of fielding state championship athletic squads in high school when they've got college kids playing against high schoolers.

Not to mention better scores on standardized testing that determines school funding.
 

TridenT

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Uh, wtf?

Don't hold him back. Get your kid into some sports to burn some energy.

I was barely five when I entered kindergarten. I was almost always the youngest in my grade. Kindergarten you start at five and add a year for each grade you progress. You should be graduating at 18 or 17 from high school, no later. This is how just about everyone does it...
 

AznAnarchy99

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yeah. the school has a reputation of holding kids back for stupid shit. MANY in the area hold kids back a year (or two!) so they don't get held back.

There are 2 kids in his class who started K at 5. the rest were 6-7.

What. I think you need to start looking for new schools instead.
 

Theb

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Are there any charter schools in the area where he could do 1st grade again with kids his age and be challenged intellectually?
Being 2 - 3 years younger (and smaller) than his classmates is going to be a hardship, but repeating a grade that he's already learned adequately would be awful.

I would take all your concerns to the teacher, maybe she'll have some good answers. If nothing else you'll find out how well she's thought this through.

Good luck. Neither is a good option. I would look hard for a third way.

I would suggest moving out of that town.

Good advice.
 

Keeper

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I would suggest moving out of that town.


I second that.

I had to read this line 3 times...

He is 6 and the rest of the class is 8-9


6 is RIGHT age for 1st grade... But 8-9 in first grade??????
I guess a LOT of kids are left back.

I almost want to call Shens..........
 

Theb

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also those surprised that there are older kids its not just here its getting common.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57459888/redshirting-holding-kids-back-from-kindergarten/

(CBS News) Kindergarten "redshirting" is on the rise. That's the practice of parents holding their children back from kindergarten so they can start school at age 6 -- older, bigger, and more mature than their 5-year-old peers. Some research shows that redshirting will give these youngsters an edge in school, and maybe even in life. But is it fair? After all, as Morley Safer reports, boys are twice as likely to be held back as girls. Whites more than minorities. And the rich redshirt their kids more than the poor.
Makes sense. My daycare goes down $200/mo when my daughter starts kindergarten.

Happens here all the time. Parents hold their sons back so they will be bigger and stronger than the other boys in sports. The sad thing is, they actually brag about it.

I can understand a kid with a summer birthday starting kindergarten at 6, but if someone told me their 8 or 9 year old was in 1st grade I would assume the kid was handicapped.
 

waggy

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I can understand a kid with a summer birthday starting kindergarten at 6, but if someone told me their 8 or 9 year old was in 1st grade I would assume the kid was handicapped.

take a kid who would be 6 due to the birthday (happens) now hold him back 1 year to "redshirt" him.

now he is 7 going into Kindergarten and 8 maybe 9 depending on birthday for 1st grade. One kid was held back twice for some reason
 

KaOTiK

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Please don't waste a year of your son's life. Especially in the early part that is much more important as those years will really be what makes him what it is.

On an adult level, think of all the wasted times we had to go to a company meeting etc for shit we already knew. You know what you are thinking and feeling during that, now imagine that for a child that can't cope with it like an adult can.
 

SphinxnihpS

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I second that.

I had to read this line 3 times...

He is 6 and the rest of the class is 8-9


6 is RIGHT age for 1st grade... But 8-9 in first grade??????
I guess a LOT of kids are left back.

I almost want to call Shens..........

The way you make it sound, I wonder if there might be some overarching funding incentive behind this. If the schools are allocated based on students per year, having 25% of all the students for an additional 10-20% of time would be a huge windfall. It may also improve their test scores, garnering additional funding? :hmm:
 

Fern

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My questions are how is this going to effect him long term? he asked this morning if he was dumb because of it (he knows she wan'ts to hold him back).

That right there would be enough for me to decide NOT to hold him back.

You destroy someone's confidence and make them think they're stupid they will likely end up being stupid because that's the expectation.

Fern
 

waggy

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That right there would be enough for me to decide NOT to hold him back.

You destroy someone's confidence and make them think they're stupid they will likely end up being stupid because that's the expectation.

Fern

that is exactly what i have been reading. it really gets worse 3-4 years down the road. kids tend to have some behavioral and academic problems if held back.
 

BudAshes

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Lol at being 8 in first grade. I wasn't even 6 when I started first grade. An 8 year old would have seemed ridiculous.
 

esquared

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My son's teacher want's to hold him back in first grade. the reason? immaturity.

He is 6 and the rest of the class is 8-9 (in most schools most first graders are 6-7). His birthday is right before the cutoff.

now academically he is fine. He reads at a 2nd grade level, he knows the math and scores high on all test. In all "subjects" except art and handwriting he excels at. his art is pretty bad and his handwriting is good but still not great.

His teacher says he would rather be outside playing and get's bored in class. He is restless and sometimes will stand instead of sitting like the rest of the kids.

We had him tested for ADD and such. The doctor laughed and said he was a healthy and normal little boy.

My questions are how is this going to effect him long term? he asked this morning if he was dumb because of it (he knows she wan'ts to hold him back). if he is bored and immature now is it going to be worse repeating stuff he knows and excelled at?

There reasoning is that the kids in K now are his age and size. he is a LOT smaller then the other kids in his class. I just wonder if holding him back for immaturity is right.

any teachers/parents have a situation like this?

IMO? No, don't hold him back.

His teacher an idiot. (hold back because of maturity???)

Your son will adapt.

Now this was a long time ago but when I was in the first grade, my teacher thought I was retarded or had something wrong with me. The problem was, I was bored. I already knew everything that they were trying to teach me. I could already read in kindergarten. They finally figured that out and put me in second grade. I was 6 at the time and two weeks into the school year.

Now I remember being a little scared being 6 and in the second grade with older kids but I adapted just fine.
 

mizzou

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grade school is meaningless honestly, it's more of just a social experiment. Every kid that got held back a year was held back for social reasons, not scholastic. If you aren't able to "get" the instructions when you are at the typical age for the class, waiting a year won't help.

Now...if your child is exceptionally YOUNG for their class, that would make more sense, but the stygma of being "Old Steve" will never be cool...in fact it's only cool when Old Steve gets his license first and can buy cigarettes first.