Teacher Union Issues Support For Convicted Cop Killer

[Blackjack200]

As a card carrying liberal, I've never understood the left's fascination with Jamal.

Here's a snip from his wikipedia.

A .38 caliber Charter Arms revolver, belonging to Abu-Jamal, with five spent cartridges was retrieved beside him at the scene. He was wearing a shoulder holster, and the shell casings and rifling characteristics of the weapon were consistent with bullet fragments taken from Faulkner's body.[36] Tests to confirm that Abu-Jamal had handled and fired the weapon were not performed, as contact with arresting police and other surfaces at the scene could have compromised the forensic value of such tests.[37][38]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu_Jamal

Seriously? This is the guy you're rallying behind?

 

[werepossum]

As a card carrying liberal, I've never understood the left's fascination with Jamal.

Here's a snip from his wikipedia.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu_Jamal

Seriously? This is the guy you're rallying behind?

He's a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop, that's irresistible to progressives. And what is a teachers' union except an organization to promote the progressive agenda?

To believe Jamal is innocent, one must believe that this very radical cop hater stopped his cab and ran over to a cop arresting his brother, but did nothing. While he was doing nothing, someone else (let's call him the Invisible Man since that's apparently the only suspect who could have pulled this off) stole a revolver registered to Jamal and shot the policeman arresting Jamal's brother. The policeman then turned and inexplicably shot NOT the man firing the revolver at him, but by miraculous coincidence the totally unrelated man to whom it was registered. (No doubt simply because he was black, since it's a well known fact that no cop in a stress situation can avoid shooting the darkest-skinned minority within range even when actually being shot by someone else.) The Invisible Man then shot the fallen cop again point blank in the head, killing him. Having been too seriously wounded to leave, Jamal (the REAL victim here, as the Invisible Man is clearly a white supremacist) then lay in full view of numerous witnesses until more police and an ambulance arrived.

"There's a lot more to it than initially meets the eye." Duh, the vicious racist homophobic Invisible Man, who is totally holding down the black man whilst benefiting from White Privilege. Um, Clear Privilege.

See, if you people were enlightened, evolved, and socially sensitive, then you'd understand that there are nuances here that, while they totally cannot be stated in words without sounding like a complete idiot, are grounds for releasing this man, no doubt with compensation for his political persecution. Much as only white people can be racist, so too only white people can be cop-killers. You must simply understand that when enough progressives get together, their collective enlightenment forms a gestalt that supersedes all possible evidence. Reality itself becomes what they deem it to be. Therefore, when you criticize any progressive group, no matter how nutty or downright evil they seem, you are merely denying this new reality and therefore, showing yourself to be a flat Earth cretin bound by old, non-subjective reality by your own racism, homophobia, traditionalism, etc. Otherwise you'd see the nuances. Or at the very least, pretend that you see the nuances, even if you can't be bothered to explain them to the non-enlightened.

 

[fskimospy]

Once again good friend werepossum, yes of course progressives hate white people, America, and love those who murder policemen.

Listen to yourself. If you heard someone else saying what you say on a regular basis, wouldn't they sound like the ravings of a crazy person?

 

[PokerGuy]

werepossum is spot-on with his post. You'd have to be a complete nutcase to rally behind that murderer and support him --- so clearly that's exactly something the California teachers union would do.

 

[werepossum]

Once again good friend werepossum, yes of course progressives hate white people, America, and love those who murder policemen.

Listen to yourself. If you heard someone else saying what you say on a regular basis, wouldn't they sound like the ravings of a crazy person?

Yes, until I saw these people repeatedly champion those like Jamal. After one has been repeatedly sprayed with noxious liquid, one must eventually accept that what one thought was a cute little black and white kitty is in fact a skunk.

This also provides a fairly clear delineation between liberals and progressives. A liberal who has examined this case cannot avoid the conclusion that Jamal is guilty of a heinous crime; a progressive will continue to insist that the case is not cut and dried, like, say, the case against Tom Delay. While a progressive might not be able to defend Jamal, he will certainly defend others defending Jamal. A progressive will continue to claim he can find "nuance" in the case, even if unable to actually articulate it.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, until I saw these people repeatedly champion those like Jamal. After one has been repeatedly sprayed with noxious liquid, one must eventually accept that what one thought was a cute little black and white kitty is in fact a skunk.

This also provides a fairly clear delineation between liberals and progressives. A liberal who has examined this case cannot avoid the conclusion that Jamal is guilty of a heinous crime; a progressive will continue to insist that the case is not cut and dried, like, say, the case against Tom Delay. While a progressive might not be able to defend Jamal, he will certainly defend others defending Jamal. A progressive will continue to claim he can find "nuance" in the case, even if unable to actually articulate it.

It's interesting to watch the effects of people trying to wordsmith on you. Ten years ago you likely would have switched 'progressive' and 'liberal' around, because the extreme right was busy demonizing liberalism at that point.

Your posts are based around invented demons and wild hallucinations about people who you share a country with and probably meet/interact with every day. If you genuinely believe they hold those opinions, they are monstrous individuals. I am both liberal AND a progressive, vehemently both of those, and yet I don't hate white people (hard to get any whiter than I am), I don't hate America (I went to war for it), and I don't cheer those who murder policemen (I have a friend who is a cop). I have large numbers of friends who are every bit as progressive as I am, many of which are in fact white people that don't hate other whites that I met in the service while going to war for America.

Perhaps you need to rethink your position, or recalibrate how you view reality, because what you're putting out now is delusional.

 

[Corn]

........Otherwise you'd see the nuances. Or at the very least, pretend that you see the nuances, even if you can't be bothered to explain them to the non-enlightened.

LOL, that right there is going to leave a mark. Burn!

 

[werepossum]

It's interesting to watch the effects of people trying to wordsmith on you. Ten years ago you likely would have switched 'progressive' and 'liberal' around, because the extreme right was busy demonizing liberalism at that point.

Your posts are based around invented demons and wild hallucinations about people who you share a country with and probably meet/interact with every day. If you genuinely believe they hold those opinions, they are monstrous individuals. I am both liberal AND a progressive, vehemently both of those, and yet I don't hate white people (hard to get any whiter than I am), I don't hate America (I went to war for it), and I don't cheer those who murder policemen (I have a friend who is a cop). I have large numbers of friends who are every bit as progressive as I am, many of which are in fact white people that don't hate other whites that I met in the service while going to war for America.

Perhaps you need to rethink your position, or recalibrate how you view reality, because what you're putting out now is delusional.

Thirty years ago I would certainly have used liberal and progressive interchangeably, because I had not yet observed the differences between the two groups. Therefore I had no clue why some people who professed to love the same things I love - freedom, liberty, the American way - so often acted directly in opposition. Gradually I came to see there is a difference between people who believe in freedom, liberty, and the American way, but who feel more for others or place more faith in government to best accomplish these things than do I - liberals - and those who merely want an all-powerful, authoritarian government overseeing a collectivist economy with a small number of enlightened individuals wielding an enormous amount of power - progressives. Certainly there is a lot of overlap between the two groups, and I still slip up and use the terms interchangeably, but there is a noticeably difference between the two groups' methods and aims. Progressives are much more eager to infringe on freedom.

LOL, that right there is going to leave a mark. Burn!

LOL You'd think.

 

[fskimospy]

Thirty years ago I would certainly have used liberal and progressive interchangeably, because I had not yet observed the differences between the two groups. Therefore I had no clue why some people who professed to love the same things I love - freedom, liberty, the American way - so often acted directly in opposition. Gradually I came to see there is a difference between people who believe in freedom, liberty, and the American way, but who feel more for others or place more faith in government to best accomplish these things than do I - liberals - and those who merely want an all-powerful, authoritarian government overseeing a collectivist economy with a small number of enlightened individuals wielding an enormous amount of power - progressives. Certainly there is a lot of overlap between the two groups, and I still slip up and use the terms interchangeably, but there is a noticeably difference between the two groups' methods and aims. Progressives are much more eager to infringe on freedom.

So can you help explain why I, and so many other people I know, avowed progressives all, exhibit attributes that run so completely contrary to your description of what progressives like? We don't hate white people, we don't hate America, and we don't like the murder of police. Are we ALL just magical exceptions to the rule, or is your rule perhaps a bit off?

 

[werepossum]

So can you help explain why I, and so many other people I know, avowed progressives all, exhibit attributes that run so completely contrary to your description of what progressives like? We don't hate white people, we don't hate America, and we don't like the murder of police. Are we ALL just magical exceptions to the rule, or is your rule perhaps a bit off?

My rule is an exaggeration for effect of the way that progressives claim that only white people can be racist, see almost everything traditionally associated with America as bad, and assume that any minority who kills a cop is also a victim of our racist society. None of you are magical exceptions to the rule, you all feel like you come to the same conclusions through independent thought when in reality you flock to the same groupthink positions and then attempt to reason backwards from there. Even where the attempt is laughably bad, such as Jamal, you merely argue that the unenlightened don't see the nuances you can't actually explain.

 

[fskimospy]

My rule is an exaggeration for effect of the way that progressives claim that only white people can be racist, see almost everything traditionally associated with America as bad, and assume that any minority who kills a cop is also a victim of our racist society. None of you are magical exceptions to the rule, you all feel like you come to the same conclusions through independent thought when in reality you flock to the same groupthink positions and then attempt to reason backwards from there. Even where the attempt is laughably bad, such as Jamal, you merely argue that the unenlightened don't see the nuances you can't actually explain.

Did you miss the part where I said I thought he should be in jail because there's not enough evidence to conclude otherwise?

Again, as a progressive with many progressive friends I'm simply mystified as to your description of them. Not one of us believes that racism is uniquely white, and while I'm not even sure what things you consider 'traditionally associated with America' are, I find it HIGHLY unlikely I consider those things bad either. I most certainly don't think any minority who kills a cop is a victim of racist society, and I don't know anyone who does either.

It's not that I mean that a minority of progressives that I know think this, it's that I don't know A SINGLE ONE who even remotely fits your description. I'm willing to bet I know many times the number of progressives that you do, and so I think that my experience with how they think might just be a bit larger than yours.

Regardless of what other people might think anyway, I'm quite certain that I don't think a single one of those things, and I'm as progressive as they come. Explain?

What you are writing is unhinged from reality, it appears you've become a victim of your own propaganda. You're tilting at windmills here, man.

 

[Attic]

He's a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop, that's irresistible to progressives. And what is a teachers' union except an organization to promote the progressive agenda?

To believe Jamal is innocent, one must believe that this very radical cop hater stopped his cab and ran over to a cop arresting his brother, but did nothing. While he was doing nothing, someone else (let's call him the Invisible Man since that's apparently the only suspect who could have pulled this off) stole a revolver registered to Jamal and shot the policeman arresting Jamal's brother. The policeman then turned and inexplicably shot NOT the man firing the revolver at him, but by miraculous coincidence the totally unrelated man to whom it was registered. (No doubt simply because he was black, since it's a well known fact that no cop in a stress situation can avoid shooting the darkest-skinned minority within range even when actually being shot by someone else.) The Invisible Man then shot the fallen cop again point blank in the head, killing him. Having been too seriously wounded to leave, Jamal (the REAL victim here, as the Invisible Man is clearly a white supremacist) then lay in full view of numerous witnesses until more police and an ambulance arrived.

"There's a lot more to it than initially meets the eye." Duh, the vicious racist homophobic Invisible Man, who is totally holding down the black man whilst benefiting from White Privilege. Um, Clear Privilege.

See, if you people were enlightened, evolved, and socially sensitive, then you'd understand that there are nuances here that, while they totally cannot be stated in words without sounding like a complete idiot, are grounds for releasing this man, no doubt with compensation for his political persecution. Much as only white people can be racist, so too only white people can be cop-killers. You must simply understand that when enough progressives get together, their collective enlightenment forms a gestalt that supersedes all possible evidence. Reality itself becomes what they deem it to be. Therefore, when you criticize any progressive group, no matter how nutty or downright evil they seem, you are merely denying this new reality and therefore, showing yourself to be a flat Earth cretin bound by old, non-subjective reality by your own racism, homophobia, traditionalism, etc. Otherwise you'd see the nuances. Or at the very least, pretend that you see the nuances, even if you can't be bothered to explain them to the non-enlightened.

:thumbsup:

That fully explains the frustrations of the non-enlightend as it relates to our inability to comprehend the magnitude of the pedestal only the progressives are allowed to look out from.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

Did you miss the part where I said I thought he should be in jail because there's not enough evidence to conclude otherwise?

Again, as a progressive with many progressive friends I'm simply mystified as to your description of them. Not one of us believes that racism is uniquely white, and while I'm not even sure what things you consider 'traditionally associated with America' are, I find it HIGHLY unlikely I consider those things bad either. I most certainly don't think any minority who kills a cop is a victim of racist society, and I don't know anyone who does either.

It's not that I mean that a minority of progressives that I know think this, it's that I don't know A SINGLE ONE who even remotely fits your description. I'm willing to bet I know many times the number of progressives that you do, and so I think that my experience with how they think might just be a bit larger than yours.

Regardless of what other people might think anyway, I'm quite certain that I don't think a single one of those things, and I'm as progressive as they come. Explain?

What you are writing is unhinged from reality, it appears you've become a victim of your own propaganda. You're tilting at windmills here, man.

The existence of the free Mumia movement is all the proof werepossum needs. Look at the story that prompted this thread. Doesn't it sound quite a bit like what he is describing?

 

[fskimospy]

The existence of the free Mumia movement is all the proof werepossum needs. Look at the story that prompted this thread. Doesn't it sound quite a bit like what he is describing?

...no? Are you insane?

Please pinpoint the parts of the story that display:
1.) A hatred of white people.
2.) A hatred of America.
3.) A delight in the murder of police.

Jesus christ people, seek professional help.

 

[JSt0rm]

logically the only solution is to destroy all teachers unions.

 

[werepossum]

He's a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop, that's irresistible to progressives. And what is a teachers' union except an organization to promote the progressive agenda?

SNIP

...no? Are you insane?

Please pinpoint the parts of the story that display:
1.) A hatred of white people.
2.) A hatred of America.
3.) A delight in the murder of police.

Jesus christ people, seek professional help.

Look back at what I said. I did not say that progressives hate white people, hate America, or delight in the murder of police, although certainly those sentiments are much more prevalent in progressives than in the general population (cue William Ayers and the Weather Underground.) What I said was that "a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop [is] irresistible to progressives." That is unarguably true. Count all the times that minorities are invited to speak at universities on white racism. Look at those people (of any race) who advocate the overthrow of America, or expound on the evil of American culture, or advocate our transition to communism or socialism. Look at all the people (including the California teachers' union) who defend Jamal and want him freed. There are zero conservatives here, only progressives and those liberals too young to have yet made the distinction. The same people who throw pies and form human chains and disrupt speeches by ANY conservative, go out of their way to offer a friendly forum to any America-hater, be he cop killing Black Panther or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, willing to tell us America is an evil place.

That is my point. Progressives may claim to love America, but they love those who hate America even more. Even in a case like this, where a racist recently engaged in spreading his hatred on the radio and advocating cop killing actually without any doubt whatsoever murders a cop, you can't bring yourself to condemn him without hinting that there are special circumstances and things that us unenlightened don't know. Worse, here's a group of progressives who, instead of championing teachers or removing barriers to their work (i.e. their actual job function), are spending their time and energy championing one of the few murderers that we know beyond even the faintest shadow of a doubt is guilty. This is habit and pattern with progressives.

 

[fskimospy]

Look back at what I said. I did not say that progressives hate white people, hate America, or delight in the murder of police, although certainly those sentiments are much more prevalent in progressives than in the general population (cue William Ayers and the Weather Underground.) What I said was that "a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop [is] irresistible to progressives." That is unarguably true. Count all the times that minorities are invited to speak at universities on white racism. Look at those people (of any race) who advocate the overthrow of America, or expound on the evil of American culture, or advocate our transition to communism or socialism. Look at all the people (including the California teachers' union) who defend Jamal and want him freed. There are zero conservatives here, only progressives and those liberals too young to have yet made the distinction. The same people who throw pies and form human chains and disrupt speeches by ANY conservative, go out of their way to offer a friendly forum to any America-hater, be he cop killing Black Panther or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, willing to tell us America is an evil place.

That is my point. Progressives may claim to love America, but they love those who hate America even more. Even in a case like this, where a racist recently engaged in spreading his hatred on the radio and advocating cop killing actually without any doubt whatsoever murders a cop, you can't bring yourself to condemn him without hinting that there are special circumstances and things that us unenlightened don't know. Worse, here's a group of progressives who, instead of championing teachers or removing barriers to their work (i.e. their actual job function), are spending their time and energy championing one of the few murderers that we know beyond even the faintest shadow of a doubt is guilty. This is habit and pattern with progressives.

Absolute insanity.

Only in your twisted version of reality is someone who is accepting of dissenting viewpoints in a singular case that is not nearly as open and shut as you claim, (although I really have no desire to debate it) someone who loves people who hate America more than they love their own country.

I really don't know what else to say on the subject other than what I've already said before. You've become unhinged from reality, and you need to hate your political opponents so badly that you've taken to inventing bizarre ideas about how they think. You've just told me that I love people who hate America more than the country I spent 7 years of my life defending because I'm willing to say 'I disagree with those who want to free him but I don't think they are insane'.

One last request for you to consider just how insane you sound.

 

[Corn]

Absolute insanity.

Only in your twisted version of reality is someone who is accepting of dissenting viewpoints in a singular case that is not nearly as open and shut as you claim, (although I really have no desire to debate it) someone who loves people who hate America more than they love their own country.

I really don't know what else to say on the subject other than what I've already said before. You've become unhinged from reality, and you need to hate your political opponents so badly that you've taken to inventing bizarre ideas about how they think. You've just told me that I love people who hate America more than the country I spent 7 years of my life defending because I'm willing to say 'I disagree with those who want to free him but I don't think they are insane'.

One last request for you to consider just how insane you sound.

Oh, so the topic of this thread didn't really happen and is just a figment of WP's imagination then, eh? WP may be insane, but you definitely have a nasty case of denial.

One other question, why do you have no desire to debate the merits of Abu-Jamal's conviction? I can guess why..........

 

[shortylickens]

He's a white-hating, America-hating, vitriol-spewing Black Panther who murdered a cop, that's irresistible to progressives. And what is a teachers' union except an organization to promote the progressive agenda?

To believe Jamal is innocent, one must believe that this very radical cop hater stopped his cab and ran over to a cop arresting his brother, but did nothing. While he was doing nothing, someone else (let's call him the Invisible Man since that's apparently the only suspect who could have pulled this off) stole a revolver registered to Jamal and shot the policeman arresting Jamal's brother. The policeman then turned and inexplicably shot NOT the man firing the revolver at him, but by miraculous coincidence the totally unrelated man to whom it was registered. (No doubt simply because he was black, since it's a well known fact that no cop in a stress situation can avoid shooting the darkest-skinned minority within range even when actually being shot by someone else.) The Invisible Man then shot the fallen cop again point blank in the head, killing him. Having been too seriously wounded to leave, Jamal (the REAL victim here, as the Invisible Man is clearly a white supremacist) then lay in full view of numerous witnesses until more police and an ambulance arrived.

"There's a lot more to it than initially meets the eye." Duh, the vicious racist homophobic Invisible Man, who is totally holding down the black man whilst benefiting from White Privilege. Um, Clear Privilege.

See, if you people were enlightened, evolved, and socially sensitive, then you'd understand that there are nuances here that, while they totally cannot be stated in words without sounding like a complete idiot, are grounds for releasing this man, no doubt with compensation for his political persecution. Much as only white people can be racist, so too only white people can be cop-killers. You must simply understand that when enough progressives get together, their collective enlightenment forms a gestalt that supersedes all possible evidence. Reality itself becomes what they deem it to be. Therefore, when you criticize any progressive group, no matter how nutty or downright evil they seem, you are merely denying this new reality and therefore, showing yourself to be a flat Earth cretin bound by old, non-subjective reality by your own racism, homophobia, traditionalism, etc. Otherwise you'd see the nuances. Or at the very least, pretend that you see the nuances, even if you can't be bothered to explain them to the non-enlightened.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh, so the topic of this thread didn't really happen and is just a figment of WP's imagination then, eh? WP may be insane, but you definitely have a nasty case of denial.

One other question, why do you have no desire to debate the merits of Abu-Jamal's conviction? I can guess why..........

Was your guess that I didn't want to debate it because I believe his conviction to be correct, as I have repeatedly stated?

The topic of this thread in no way supports the argument that progressives prefer anti white racism, america hating, and police murder over American values. It's batshittery.

 

[werepossum]

Absolute insanity.

Only in your twisted version of reality is someone who is accepting of dissenting viewpoints in a singular case that is not nearly as open and shut as you claim, (although I really have no desire to debate it) someone who loves people who hate America more than they love their own country.

I really don't know what else to say on the subject other than what I've already said before. You've become unhinged from reality, and you need to hate your political opponents so badly that you've taken to inventing bizarre ideas about how they think. You've just told me that I love people who hate America more than the country I spent 7 years of my life defending because I'm willing to say 'I disagree with those who want to free him but I don't think they are insane'.

One last request for you to consider just how insane you sound.

Let me walk you through this.
1. Progressives throw pies at Ann Coulter, pull fire alarms, disrupt speeches, and generally act like self-absorbed pricks. This is true of almost any conservative who dares take on the bastions of the progressive movement, universities. Ergo, progressives are not open to dissenting viewpoints.
2. Progressives fawn over Jamal, and Ahmadinejad, and people like them who are invited - even paid - to lecture them on how evil/racist/homophobic is the USA.
3. Since we can establish that progressives are not open to dissenting viewpoints, obviously the viewpoints expressed by the America-haters are viewpoints with which progressives agree or, at the least, viewpoints they enjoy hearing because it makes them feel good about themselves.

I notice also that although you are still claiming that his case is "not nearly as open and shut as claim", you don't want to address any particulars of the case. Thus my contention that even though you know he is guilty of murder without the slightest shred of a hint of what might one day, if properly nurtured with loving care and psychedelics, eventually grow into a doubt, your progressive viewpoint still requires defense of any progressive group that wants him freed.

Just for the record, I do not hate progressives. I find them capable of occasional good ideas, some of which I agree with and some not because of ethical or other concerns. What I do recognize is that progressives are dangerous. Doesn't mean that you are bad people, it just means that you have within you a unique capacity for harm that needs to be watched. And I am not claiming that people who want Mumia Abu-Jamal freed are insane. They could just as easily be misguided, ignorant, stupid, or just plain evil - not to mention merely traveling in a herd and assuming that they are being well led.

 

[werepossum]

LOL I'm a legend in my own mind.

 

[fskimospy]

Let me walk you through this.
1. Progressives throw pies at Ann Coulter, pull fire alarms, disrupt speeches, and generally act like self-absorbed pricks. This is true of almost any conservative who dares take on the bastions of the progressive movement, universities. Ergo, progressives are not open to dissenting viewpoints.
2. Progressives fawn over Jamal, and Ahmadinejad, and people like them who are invited - even paid - to lecture them on how evil/racist/homophobic is the USA.
3. Since we can establish that progressives are not open to dissenting viewpoints, obviously the viewpoints expressed by the America-haters are viewpoints with which progressives agree or, at the least, viewpoints they enjoy hearing because it makes them feel good about themselves.

I notice also that although you are still claiming that his case is "not nearly as open and shut as claim", you don't want to address any particulars of the case. Thus my contention that even though you know he is guilty of murder without the slightest shred of a hint of what might one day, if properly nurtured with loving care and psychedelics, eventually grow into a doubt, your progressive viewpoint still requires defense of any progressive group that wants him freed.

Just for the record, I do not hate progressives. I find them capable of occasional good ideas, some of which I agree with and some not because of ethical or other concerns. What I do recognize is that progressives are dangerous. Doesn't mean that you are bad people, it just means that you have within you a unique capacity for harm that needs to be watched. And I am not claiming that people who want Mumia Abu-Jamal freed are insane. They could just as easily be misguided, ignorant, stupid, or just plain evil - not to mention merely traveling in a herd and assuming that they are being well led.

1.) Dislike of Ann Coulter and a desire for her not to visit your campus does not mean that you are not open to dissenting viewpoints, it means that you are not open to thought free, professional, real life trolling.

2.) Progressives do not fawn over Ahmadinejad. Wanting someone you believe to be wrongfully convicted to be free does not equate to an endorsement of all their politics. If you cannot see why a head of state with odious views might be invited to a university while a private citizen with odious views might not be, I don't know what to say. Should be a no-brainer.

3.) Conclusion based upon delusional, wildly distorted premise that is disconnected from reality.

At this point I can't believe that even you actually buy this crap you're saying.

EDIT: Just to be clear, your argument is that progressives aren't open to dissenting opinions because they won't listen to Ann Coulter, and they hate America because they will listen to a speech from the head of state for Iran. That's really all I should have said, because that perfectly encapsulates the delusion here.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

...no? Are you insane?

Please pinpoint the parts of the story that display:
1.) A hatred of white people.
2.) A hatred of America.
3.) A delight in the murder of police.

Jesus christ people, seek professional help.

Its pretty simple. No rational intellectually honest person would support Jamal, yet there is significant support for him on the left. The reason is that many on the left view America as a racist, unjust country and assume the worst even when the facts clearly don't back them up.

 

[werepossum]

1.) Dislike of Ann Coulter and a desire for her not to visit your campus does not mean that you are not open to dissenting viewpoints, it means that you are not open to thought free, professional, real life trolling.

2.) Progressives do not fawn over Ahmadinejad. Wanting someone you believe to be wrongfully convicted to be free does not equate to an endorsement of all their politics. If you cannot see why a head of state with odious views might be invited to a university while a private citizen with odious views might not be, I don't know what to say. Should be a no-brainer.

3.) Conclusion based upon delusional, wildly distorted premise that is disconnected from reality.

At this point I can't believe that even you actually buy this crap you're saying.

EDIT: Just to be clear, your argument is that progressives aren't open to dissenting opinions because they won't listen to Ann Coulter, and they hate America because they will listen to a speech from the head of state for Iran. That's really all I should have said, because that perfectly encapsulates the delusion here.

Progressives always feel like they have a reason for their decisions, but it's always EVERY conservative whose views are too odious to be heard, and EVERY America-hater whose views NEED to be heard. I could just as easily have substituted Binyamin Netanyahu for Ann Coulter and Bobby Seale for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and you'd have given me another pseudologicical, backward-worked, contrived reason why it's perfectly reasonable for Netanyahu to be chased off and Seale to be lauded.