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[Texmaster]

<< Capatilism? You mean capitalism? >>




ROFLOL!!! Ah the spelling caped crusader. Make sure your tights aren't on backwards! LOL Please tell me you have something of substanance to say...



<< But yes, I do have quite a lot against Capilalism in its pure form. >>



And in your opinion, what is its purest form? And what countries practice capatilism in its purist form?



<< And BTW, would you mind ceasing attacking me for no apparent reason? It's getting quite annoying. >>



Attacking? I'm asking questions and you are evading.

I'll ask another. You claimed the US should leave the middle east and that would stop the violence. What indicators give you that conclusion besides the terrorists themselves who are proven liars in this war alone reporting civilian casualties?

And shouldn't we as democracies want to help free people under oppressive governemnts in Arab Countries?

Are you against women having equal rights in the middle east as well?

And does that mean ALL countries that do business in the US that are not part of the middle east including your own?

Please explain.

 

[yllus]

<< ROFLOL!!! Ah the spelling caped crusader. Make sure your tights aren't on backwards! LOL Please tell me you have something of substanance to say... >>


Texmaster, head Bush speechwriter...



<< And shouldn't we as democracies want to help free people under oppressive governemnts in Arab Countries? >>


Of course we should. But let's be calling a spade a spade here. If the 9/11 attacks didn't prompt military action in Afghanistan, they were going to continue to be virtually ignored by, hell, pretty much everyone - even and especially other so-called Muslim countries. Bringing a responsible government to the country was just a positive side-affect to rooting out the nuts over there, not the primary reason.

If this is true, why is Saudi Arabia still run the way it is? Certainly with the military presence already there it couldn't be THAT difficult if the awesome might of the U.S. saw to it, right? Realistically America/Britain/etc. shouldn't be running around all over putting their own citizens at risk anyway.

 

[Jzero]

<< That's it in a nutshell. One sovereign nation cannot attempt to be the "enforcer" over other sovereign nations. To do so would require an impartial coalition of representatives of many nations. It is impossible to separate at least the PERCEPTION of an ulterior motive from a single nation who has taken it upon herself to arrange the world as she sees fit. Come on....imagine if the police for in your town was owned by a private corporation. Regardless of how true or false your suspicions might be, would you honestly be able to set aside the suspicion itself that the police force is now acting only the interests of the parent company, and not necessarily to work fair and impartial justice?
Likewise, there is no way anyone can ever lay to rest the idea that the US does what it does for her own benefit. And it makes sense. Why sick our fingers in all these pies if we have nothing to gain from it?
As for my coalition described above, sounds like the UN. Except the UN is resented because its very foundation in which certain major world powers at the end of WWII were given special benefits such as veto powers. So, while the UN is a step in the right direction, it still lacks true impartiality.

The US made it's own enemies. I'm not saying we made terrorists. We made enemies. If we take away this excuse, terrorists will make another; better foreign policy won't solve that problem.
Better foreign policy would create a better global environment.

But I'm just a liberal moron, so don't listen to me. >>





<< Fine. The US has enemies what a shocker.

Now please explain how that justifies the WTC attacks. >>



I love playing the broken record game. I said twice above:
I love quoting myself:



<< If you think that's a justification for terrorism, please speak now and publicly affirm your ignorance. >>


Oh! And again:


<< I'm not saying we made terrorists. >>


wow! I guess you only read half the posts, don't you?

And now I will explain to you what you cannot seem to see through the stars (and stripes) in your eyes.
It may be no justification to US, which is why we're chasing after them, but it is a 100% valid justification for THEM. 'Nuff said. Those same people are probably saying "How can the US bomb us when we're already so downtrodden? A few of our people's attacks on them doesn't justify an all-out war on us."
But it does, doesn't it?
At least in our eyes. Try and emotionally detach yourself from the situation for JUST a second.



<< If it doesn't then what is your point besides the obvious one that the US has enemies? >>



The point is that perhaps we should stop playing "Let's get fat off the Arabs" and put our money where our mouths are when we yap about "Globalization."

I don't expect you to understand.

[edit: mismatched Q-tags]

 

[burnedout]

Yet still I've not seen a single piece of evicence which proves that Bin Laden's network was involved in the 9/11 attacks. I must be missing something.

Video Links bin Laden With Attacks - AP via Yahoo

WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. officials have obtained a videotape of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) that provides the strongest evidence to date that the al-Qaida leader was connected with the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center, The Washington Post reported Sunday.

Ellendan, how about some more evidence, huh?

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Texmaster,

Not to put you down (off your horse), but you kept bringing that damned videotape into discussion. I don't remember U.S. courts admitting testimonies on tape as valoid, or maybe things have changed over the past few years.

However, your blind belief in our government is educational. I invite you now to go further down the "paranoia trail" - no lower than "Wag the Dog" would, though! so this is not a completely original idea, mind you - and consider the fact that the taped Osama *might* have been doctored. Certainly, the technology allows it, and after all, who will listen to him saying otherwise?

Right after 9/11, when everyone was deep in knee-jerk reactions, I simply asked, after seeing that everyone was sure it's a foreign atack, what if the terrorists were American. Your reaction to my post then was insulting me, just as you did to Elledan.

Well, I was partially right, wasn't I? They all lived in the States for a good while.

Which brings me to my next point. You are far from being an expert in a)human nature, b) history and c) international relations. Which actually leaves you with very few useful things to say.

Good-bye.