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tailgater gets owned

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OutHouse said:
serves him right.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lgated-highway-sending-car-skidding-road.html
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On a two lane highway, if you are in the left lane and someone is coming up on you, it is on YOU to move over, NOT for them to slow down, even if you are going the speed limit or higher.

Legally (and morally) the fault is ENTIRELY on the brake-checker.

If someone did that to me, and caused me to crash, I'd end up owning his house and the houses of his descendants for three generations.

MotionMan
 
MotionMan said:
On a two lane highway, if you are in the left lane and someone is coming up on you, it is on YOU to move over, NOT for them to slow down, even if you are going the speed limit or higher.

Legally (and morally) the fault is ENTIRELY on the brake-checker.

If someone did that to me, and caused me to crash, I'd end up owning his house and the houses of his descendants for three generations.

MotionMan
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And shorty would shoot that mofo dead.
 
Matthiasa said:
In the US the person who brake-checked would be legally responsible for that accident.
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How do you figure?


I'm not saying they are not responsible at least partially but as far as I know if you hit another car from behind for any reason its on you.


MotionMan said:
If someone did that to me, and caused me to crash, I'd end up owning his house and the houses of his descendants for three generations.

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Really?

There was no contact between the vehicles, the car in front hit the brakes and the car in the back lost control then went off the road. Letter of the law I'm not even sure you can consider the guy who hit the brakes (for whatever reason) to be involved in the accident.

Morally you have a valid point, but legally?

I know a guy who did exactly this causing the guy behind to slam into him. The guy who did the slamming was found 100% responsible. (this was in Connecticut)

Further if you fly up on a driver hogging the left lane then tailgate the way that guy was and a trooper sees it, you might find yourself under arrest for road-rage.

Sadly I've never in my life seen a driver pulled over for being a left-lane bandit.
 
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I knew this would pop up here. Serves him right? The guy who brake-checked him needs to do some jail time, and I hope he does. I don't care all that much about the tailgater. We all agree on what assholes they are. I mean, the tailgater might have had a few kids in the truck, never know, but we gotta punish that jerk!

Except, here's the problem: the punisher doesn't get to control who gets punished once that chain of events is set off. If it's really that important to you follow the son of a bitch home. Of course, that makes you batshit crazy too. Might be better just to pull over and let him by? Yeah, I know, then he "gets away with it." But on the other hand, nobody ends up permanently maimed, or dead, because two cretins couldn't suppress their emotions while operating heavy motor vehicles at high speed on a public highway.
 
Markbnj said:
I knew this would pop up here. Serves him right? The guy who brake-checked him needs to do some jail time, and I hope he does. I don't care all that much about the tailgater. We all agree on what assholes they are. I mean, the tailgater might have had a few kids in the truck, never know, but we gotta punish that jerk!

Except, here's the problem: the punisher doesn't get to control who gets punished once that chain of events is set off. If it's really that important to you follow the son of a bitch home. Of course, that makes you batshit crazy too. Might be better just to pull over and let him by? Yeah, I know, then he "gets away with it." But on the other hand, nobody ends up permanently maimed, or dead, because two cretins couldn't suppress their emotions while operating heavy motor vehicles at high speed on a public highway.
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Another reason to remove the human from transportation.
 
Matthiasa said:
In the US the person who brake-checked would be legally responsible for that accident.
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The problem is there is no proof the person didn't brake for a reason of some sorts and it's the fault of the tailgater as they are responsible of what's in front of them.

Even with the video there could be any number of reasons why the person hit the brakes even if the idiot was in the left lane and didn't move over like he should had.
 
I count three assholes. The person that hit his brakes for no reason other than to cause the tailgater to react, the tailgaters, and those cheering on the first one.
 
Matthiasa said:
In the US the person who brake-checked would be legally responsible for that accident.
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Not sure what state you are from, but last I checked ANYTIME someone is rear-ended it's basically a 99.999% chance it will be deemed their fault. It's pretty hard to be the one that hits and not be the person held liable.

Obvious exceptions being running a red light, stop sign, etc..
 
Get the fuck out of the fast lane dammit. Some states are starting to crack down on people impeding traffic in the fast lane and it's awesome
 
You just can't follow someone that closely at those speeds.

I see people do it all the time, though.

There's just no way you can stop in time.

No patience whatsoever, and no sense at all.

Just stay back a little farther, and go around them if they won't move over when they can.

With that vehicle merging, it would have taken me a little time to get out of the left lane, too. The tailgater just couldn't wait, and the brake checker got pissed off.
 
Vehicle was merging i would not have gotten over either.
100% at fault is the tailgater, he got a ticket for sure. Not sure how the brake checker could be legally busted for anything, only way would be civil court and i am guessing it would probably not be worth it.
 
while the brake checker guy is a complete asshole, but not as big as an asshole as the tailgaiter, i simply don't see how he could be responsible for anything in this case. had the tailgaiter been a reasonable distance behind the driver and not raging, he could have easily slowed down behind the car without swerving off the road.

but nope, he was being a dick and riding his ass, even though the guy should have moved over to the right lane when the tailgaiter was coming up on him. it's 100% on the tailgaiter imo.
 
Buddy was in the left lane so he wasn't in the right lane as that car was merging on. No reason for him to NOT be in the left lane given the footage of the video.

Tailgater is ten thousand percent in the wrong.
 
Captante said:
Morally you have a valid point, but legally?
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Yes legally. Most (all?) states have an "Improper Stopping" citation in relation to a statue that states something like the following:

"Stopping is prohibited except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic, or in compliance with law or the directions of a police officer or official traffic-control device"

Of course its often one person's word against another and relies on the cop to cite but that doesn't mean its legal and I think a dash cam would certainly help the person being brake checked

Newbian said:
The problem is there is no proof the person didn't brake for a reason of some sorts and it's the fault of the tailgater as they are responsible of what's in front of them.

Even with the video there could be any number of reasons why the person hit the brakes even if the idiot was in the left lane and didn't move over like he should had.
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But only a very few reasons are expressly allowed in the statues like traffic control devices, other vehicles and officer directions - all of which would be pretty visible in a dash cam. Animals, pot holes etc are not 'allowed' reasons to stop although I think you may get a fair amount of leniency from the cop or judge depending on the situation
 
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