Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: spidey07
First offense - 40 hours community service and a few hundred buck fine
Second offense - 100 hours community service, 1000 buck fine 30 day suspended jail sentence
Third offense - 200 hours community service, plus you serve the 30 day sentence that was suspended, 11 month suspended sentence (I don't think it should be a felony)
4th - 11 months jail, big fine and a "If you do it again you're getting royally reamed"
I don't really have an issue with the idea here, but that last thing we need is an excuse to throw more people in crowded prisons.
I think instead of doing jail time they should be on house arrest and on top of fines, they should be financially responsible for having all graffiti
professionally removed (not just painted over) that they are responsible for... and considering some people use the same name or tag over and over, it's not hard to link people to other tags around town and clean up other spots.
I don't think that would do much to stop people from tagging. It would obviously do a lot towards getting it removed. But what most people want is it to stop completely. I know graf artists who work 2 jobs to support their tagging. Imagine how much 100 cans a week costs and multiple that times 52 weeks. I know dudes who probably drop $600 a week on supplies. That person isn't going to care about paying to get it cleaned up if they got caught as they're already spending maybe
$15k even up to 30k+ a year to write.
And yes I know a lot who drop that kind of cash,
it's not all that uncommon.
Shens.
shens? Do you know how much a can of Krylon costs? You could safely estimate an average mural uses at least 10 cans. And a lot of graf writers go bombing 3-4 times a week. Some every night. I know writers who have a full time job just to support their passion. I have been to peoples homes who buy Krylon by the pallet.
By not that uncommon I'm not implying it's typical for the average dude. But there are still a lot who are on this level.
No, I don't know what a can of Krylon costs. Google says about $5. Presumably if you've got that sort of habit you're not paying that much, since you're buying it in bulk.
I think you're exaggerating, or believing & repeating comments from someone else who's exaggerating.
I also think your idea of 'not that uncommon' is more than a little warped.
So, your 'scene' might include what, 500 people in a major met area? I'm excluding your so-derided 'chicken scratchers', since presumably they're not spending $500 a week on spray paint. Out of those 500, I'd expect you're really only looking at the top 2-3% of them for these numbers, tops. That's 15 people in a major metro area of, say, 2 million+. I'd call 15 people in a crowd of 2 million "uncommon". Hell, I'd say 500 in 2 million is uncommon.
You clearly follow this scene and presumably idolize some of these fellas, even though you'd probably never admit to that. Further, I think you're a little put out by the idea that we don't idolize these guys.
Don't get me wrong - there are some VERY talented artists out there, who have chosen spray paint and unlawful surfaces as their medium. I'm sure there are a
small handful with the resources to spend a lot of money on their art.
But you're completely full of crap beyond that, and it's pretty unlikely that you're going to convince me otherwise.
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