T.O. asking for a new deal

[desk]

does anyone else find it completely ridiculous that terrell owen's is asking for a new deal just one year after signing a 7 year, $49 million contract?

linky

 

[LeonarD26]

He signed the contract, he should be a man and stand by it. I guess he's having a hard time feeding his family...

Hope the Eagles leave him out to dry.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: LeonarD26
He signed the contract, he should be a man and stand by it. I guess he's having a hard time feeding his family...

Hope the Eagles leave him out to dry.

Yeah but without him the Eagles would be also rans instead of the favorites to win the NFC Title again.

 

[XtremepH]

Forget that If I was TO I would try and get all the money you can get when you are on top. Unlike the NBA and other sports NFL contracts are never guaranteed. Just look at the injury he recieved just imagine if it was career ending. No I am sure he has some type of medical insurance but get the most when your are the best.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: LeonarD26
He signed the contract, he should be a man and stand by it. I guess he's having a hard time feeding his family...

Hope the Eagles leave him out to dry.

Yeah but without him the Eagles would be also rans instead of the favorites to win the NFC Title again.

I'd say the opposite. That they made it through the entire playoffs without TO proves that while he's great to have around, he does not have the team by the balls despite what he wants to believe.

 

[geno]

He's nuts to try to pull this after coming off a 6 week injury, Philly shouldn't bargain with him at this point. Philly made it through the playoffs just fine without him, that there proves he's not worth dumping truckloads of money into.

 

[mcvickj]

This guy is an ass. I hope the Eagles show him the door.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: geno
He's nuts to try to pull this after coming off a 6 week injury, Philly shouldn't bargain with him at this point. Philly made it through the playoffs just fine without him, that there proves he's not worth dumping truckloads of money into.

You guys are so fvcking ignorant. They did a good job against the Falcons without him, but if you think they don't need him in the lineup to win it all, you're wrong. He brought the attitude to that team - like it or not - to allow them to win.

Beyond that, what you have to realize is that he's paid VERY poorly in the first few years of the deal, and that the Eagles put a TON of money at the end of the deal that they'll never pay. They'll release him before it comes to that. So yes, he's trying to get some more money, but many just see him as greedy and don't look at the specifics.

1) He was unquestionably the top performer at his position last year up until his injury, and then came back FAR earlier than he should have been able to in order to play - productively - in the Super Bowl.

2) The Eagles have proven - just like the Patriots - that they will release even their best players in a heartbeat if they cost too much money. This doesn't bode well for TO who HAS to expect that he'll be released before the last two years of his contract begin.

3) If he plays only the first three years of his contract, he won't even be among the top 10 WRs in terms of $/year. If you think that's fair for a guy like him at the level he's performed at, you're blind. The NFL isn't like every other sport people - he could injure himself in PRACTICE and never play again. You can't take risks like that. He's a top performer, he deserves the money.

Rosenhaus was brought in to spread out the money he's due in a more reasonable fashion. They'll put less in the latter years of the contract so that he might actually be PAID that money. I'm sure the dollar amounts will go up, but it's more about making the payments reasonable while he's still performing at this level.

 

[desk]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: geno
He's nuts to try to pull this after coming off a 6 week injury, Philly shouldn't bargain with him at this point. Philly made it through the playoffs just fine without him, that there proves he's not worth dumping truckloads of money into.

You guys are so fvcking ignorant. They did a good job against the Falcons without him, but if you think they don't need him in the lineup to win it all, you're wrong. He brought the attitude to that team - like it or not - to allow them to win.

Beyond that, what you have to realize is that he's paid VERY poorly in the first few years of the deal, and that the Eagles put a TON of money at the end of the deal that they'll never pay. They'll release him before it comes to that. So yes, he's trying to get some more money, but many just see him as greedy and don't look at the specifics.

1) He was unquestionably the top performer at his position last year up until his injury, and then came back FAR earlier than he should have been able to in order to play - productively - in the Super Bowl.

2) The Eagles have proven - just like the Patriots - that they will release even their best players in a heartbeat if they cost too much money. This doesn't bode well for TO who HAS to expect that he'll be released before the last two years of his contract begin.

3) If he plays only the first three years of his contract, he won't even be among the top 10 WRs in terms of $/year. If you think that's fair for a guy like him at the level he's performed at, you're blind. The NFL isn't like every other sport people - he could injure himself in PRACTICE and never play again. You can't take risks like that. He's a top performer, he deserves the money.

Rosenhaus was brought in to spread out the money he's due in a more reasonable fashion. They'll put less in the latter years of the contract so that he might actually be PAID that money. I'm sure the dollar amounts will go up, but it's more about making the payments reasonable while he's still performing at this level.

he probably would have gotten a better deal in baltimore, but he cried his way out of that contract.

 

[NeoV]

Ilmater, you couldn't be more wrong.

Check his signing bonus from last year's contract, then tell me it was back-loaded. His base salary may not be that high in the early years, but does that mean the signing bonus didn't exist?

They got to 2 NFC championship games without him, remember? Is he their best WR? Of course he is, but your line of "he brought the attitude to the team" is a bunch of crap - he's not well liked by his teammates, he's already been critical of McNabb for crying out loud! Any good WR helps this team, other than him they don't have good WR's, period.

The top performer at his position? Come on - there are a group of top WR's, and yes, he's in that group, but are you going to put him above Randy Moss? Marvin Harrison?

Any NFL player signing a 7 year deal knows that the length of the contract is simply a ploy to stretch out the impact on the salary cap of their signing bonus, and that they won't be under that contract for all 7 years. However, to come back after 1 season and ask for a new deal, with what I'm sure will be a request for another signing bonus, is beyond greedy - in fact, has any NFL player, other than Redskins rookie Sean Taylor (who might be the dumbest player in the NFL by the way - hire agent, fire agent, sign bad rookie contract, fire agent, re-hire first agent, unable to say abc's to cop when pulled over, not returning calls from your Hall of Fame coach, etc), asked to redo a deal after one season?

Again, Ilmater, you are completely ignoring the signing bonus he was given - yes, his annual salaries aren't that high, but you can't ignore the money he received up front! Many players have similar deals!

And finally, your facts are wrong - his current contract averages, salary wise, the third highest amount for a WR in the NFL - Moss and Harrison are the only ones whose yearly annual average salary is higher.

Drew Rosenhaus is an agent gone bad - much like the clownish Potson brothers, they think they are bigger than the players they represent.

Didn't the NFL bend over backwards to accomodate this guy's demands to play in Philly? Is there any reason other than preference he isn't a Raven?

He is an 4ss.

 

[meltdown75]

he got game

 

Terrell Owens: $2,300,000 (7 yrs, $6.2 million roster bonus in 2004, $5 million roster bonus in 2006)

Signing bonus info.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Ilmater
You guys are so fvcking ignorant. They did a good job against the Falcons without him, but if you think they don't need him in the lineup to win it all, you're wrong. He brought the attitude to that team - like it or not - to allow them to win.

They HAD him in the lineup and they DID NOT win it all. They did fine in the playoffs without him, and, not surprisingly, they got their asses handed to them by a far stronger AFC team, a team that probably would have won even if TO was at 100%.

but many just see him as greedy and don't look at the specifics.

If the shoe fits...

1) He was unquestionably the top performer at his position last year up until his injury, and then came back FAR earlier than he should have been able to in order to play - productively - in the Super Bowl.

Played somewhat productively in the Superbowl....AND LOST. How come the *other* players haven't found new agents to help them beg for more money? What about Freddie Mitchell? He's so full of himself, you would EXPECT him to be demanding more money after TO stole what he claims was going to be a stellar Superbowl performance. :laugh:

2) The Eagles have proven - just like the Patriots - that they will release even their best players in a heartbeat if they cost too much money. This doesn't bode well for TO who HAS to expect that he'll be released before the last two years of his contract begin.

Fair enough. That's not going to stop us from calling a spade a spade when he signed his previous contract just to get his foot in the door and now he wants more money after just one season. And what if he gets that money and then sucks ass for the next 3 years?

3) If he plays only the first three years of his contract, he won't even be among the top 10 WRs in terms of $/year. If you think that's fair for a guy like him at the level he's performed at, you're blind. The NFL isn't like every other sport people - he could injure himself in PRACTICE and never play again. You can't take risks like that. He's a top performer, he deserves the money.

Oh, but all this time hasn't he been saying that he's not in it for the money, he just wants to play for a team that he can help win championships and vice versa?
And what's this that the NFL is the only sport where you can get hurt in practice and never play again? That's EVERY sport.

Rosenhaus was brought in to spread out the money he's due in a more reasonable fashion. They'll put less in the latter years of the contract so that he might actually be PAID that money. I'm sure the dollar amounts will go up, but it's more about making the payments reasonable while he's still performing at this level.

All well and good, but he didn't have to sign with the Eagles if he didn't want to.

 

[meltdown75]

He should do a fancy dance and sign the contract with a Sharpie.

 

[psiu]

Maybe he shouldn't have signed the contract?

Maybe he should have kept better tabs on his agent in San Fran and made sure he was a free agent?

Tough for him. I hope Philly just keeps him. If he won't play, then don't pay him. I think this means he would still count against the cap, but don't let him go. Hold him hostage for the rest of his career for being a poopoo head.

 

[stimpy1]

He's not paid what he's worth. Yeah, he's somewhat of a showboat (I don't personally like that). But, he's among the top 10 receivers in the league, and he's not paid like he is a member of that elite group.

 

[FrustratedUser]

He sounds like a greedy mofo. $49 million. OMG.

 

[spliffstar69]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
He sounds like a greedy mofo. $49 million. OMG.

It should be more 49mil is a small fraction to what he helps generate.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Hope the Eagles leave him out to dry.

Yeah but without him the Eagles would be also rans instead of the favorites to win the NFC Title again.
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The Eagles were back to back NFC champs without TO.

 

[Nitemare]

Be a man and honor the contract...

if not trade him for Roy or Marvin Williams or some other up and coming star

After 7 years his career will be basically over anyways.

 

[GoingUp]

Suck it TO

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: spliffstar69

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
He sounds like a greedy mofo. $49 million. OMG.

It should be more 49mil is a small fraction to what he helps generate.

No, why? Oh sorry he's starving and can't feed his kids.
Give more money to the rest of the players instead. It's not going to make or break the team if he leaves.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Ilmater
You guys are so fvcking ignorant. They did a good job against the Falcons without him, but if you think they don't need him in the lineup to win it all, you're wrong. He brought the attitude to that team - like it or not - to allow them to win.

They HAD him in the lineup and they DID NOT win it all. They did fine in the playoffs without him, and, not surprisingly, they got their asses handed to them by a far stronger AFC team, a team that probably would have won even if TO was at 100%.

I'm not saying they don't need a better defense if they want to win the SB, but the fact is, his presence made that team better.

1) He was unquestionably the top performer at his position last year up until his injury, and then came back FAR earlier than he should have been able to in order to play - productively - in the Super Bowl.

Played somewhat productively in the Superbowl....AND LOST. How come the *other* players haven't found new agents to help them beg for more money? What about Freddie Mitchell? He's so full of himself, you would EXPECT him to be demanding more money after TO stole what he claims was going to be a stellar Superbowl performance. :laugh:

He played VERY productively in the SB, and I'm not going to even BOTHER to get the figures. Go look at the stats and tell me how well he played.

2) The Eagles have proven - just like the Patriots - that they will release even their best players in a heartbeat if they cost too much money. This doesn't bode well for TO who HAS to expect that he'll be released before the last two years of his contract begin.

Fair enough. That's not going to stop us from calling a spade a spade when he signed his previous contract just to get his foot in the door and now he wants more money after just one season. And what if he gets that money and then sucks ass for the next 3 years?

He's not going to suck ass. Period. The guy has performed extremely well for years and his production didn't decline AT ALL last year, so I would say there's zero chance that he doesn't perform well.

3) If he plays only the first three years of his contract, he won't even be among the top 10 WRs in terms of $/year. If you think that's fair for a guy like him at the level he's performed at, you're blind. The NFL isn't like every other sport people - he could injure himself in PRACTICE and never play again. You can't take risks like that. He's a top performer, he deserves the money.

Oh, but all this time hasn't he been saying that he's not in it for the money, he just wants to play for a team that he can help win championships and vice versa?
And what's this that the NFL is the only sport where you can get hurt in practice and never play again? That's EVERY sport.

I'm not going to argue about what he said or didn't say. Nobody works for free. And don't be ridiculous - your chances of getting a career-ending injury in football - practice or regular game - are FAR higher than any other major professional sport.

Rosenhaus was brought in to spread out the money he's due in a more reasonable fashion. They'll put less in the latter years of the contract so that he might actually be PAID that money. I'm sure the dollar amounts will go up, but it's more about making the payments reasonable while he's still performing at this level.

All well and good, but he didn't have to sign with the Eagles if he didn't want to.

Nobody's saying he didn't want to be an Eagle, but he came in a played how he played and lived up to every last bit of hype. You can't deny that he's playing above his contract right now.

NeoV I'm getting to you, but Jzero's was easier to respond to.

 

[boyRacer]

I heard a sound clip of him crying because of it. Was he really crying?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: LeonarD26
He signed the contract, he should be a man and stand by it. I guess he's having a hard time feeding his family...

Hope the Eagles leave him out to dry.

Yeah but without him the Eagles would be also rans instead of the favorites to win the NFC Title again.

Do teams get to restructure contracts if players turn in crappy performances?