T-Mobile owns other carriers again, in Q2 '14.

[evident]

I have T Mobile and the second my contract's up I'm gone. About a mile from my house I get LTE+, at home I get H, which is the slowest shit since 2g. No exaggerating, while it might not be as slow as the original 3g, it's damn close.

why dont you just use wifi calling at home?

 

[npaladin-2000]

I have T Mobile and the second my contract's up I'm gone. About a mile from my house I get LTE+, at home I get H, which is the slowest shit since 2g. No exaggerating, while it might not be as slow as the original 3g, it's damn close.

It's been over a year since T-Mobile stopped doing contracts, and even then they had WiFi calling available since 2011. Plus H is actually HSPA, which is a 3G upgrade, basically 3.5G and generally 10 to 15 mbps, which is better than some LTE implementations get (yes I mean you AT&T).

Oh and I'm not aware of any LTE+ either.

 

[Dulanic]

It's been over a year since T-Mobile stopped doing contracts, and even then they had WiFi calling available since 2011. Plus H is actually HSPA, which is a 3G upgrade, basically 3.5G and generally 10 to 15 mbps, which is better than some LTE implementations get (yes I mean you AT&T).

Oh and I'm not aware of any LTE+ either.

Maybe he meant E? That's my only guess. Because yeah hspa is still fast. AT&T even called it 4g when sprint launched wimax back then.

 

[Bateluer]

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/07/t-mobile-volte-reaches-nationwide-status-and-700mhz-lte-is-go/

700Mhz is apparently live.

 

[Deeko]

I had T-Mobile from 2002-2009 and was generally happy with it. Spent a few years on AT&T (generous discounts from my employer + I wanted Windows Phone and they had the best selection), and switched back to T-Mobile this year. I've never really had a problem with it - yes, I do occasionally get dead zones that I didn't get with AT&T. But I generally have service anywhere, the LTE is consistently faster than AT&T's was, and it's cheap. Plus, when I went on a trip to Europe this year and got free data / text message roaming? That was amazing.

 

[mikegg]

I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile in San Francisco. 1000000% better.

 

[Compddd]

Then TMO comes up with 4 lines 10GB for $100.
And just a few days later TMO has the family plan for up to 10 people which will run me $160 -discount+tax.
TMO is letting me leave. Not that I want to.

Your post doesn't make sense. Why are you leaving T-Mobile if they just came out with a 10 person plan that you like?

 

[Medikit]

Your post doesn't make sense. Why are you leaving T-Mobile if they just came out with a 10 person plan that you like?

I think he meant "isn't letting me leave".

 

[soccerballtux]

IF you have coverage they are fantastic. I absolutely love their plans and I save a ton over the others. I left Sprint because their price rose to be closer to the other big carriers but their speeds were attrocious. Their 3G is TERRIBLE and their Wimax/LTE was the speed of Tmo/AT&T 3G. 3G is just bad for all the CDMA carriers.

With the money I save when I do travel where I don't get coverage on vacations sometimes I can pick up a prepaid sim and toss it in and hop on AT&T's network and still save a ton of money. It isn't voice that's an issue /w T-Mo in most areas, just data gets to be horrible outside of most large city suburbs.

Their Hotspot devices are awsome too... My mother has T-Mo and barely going online so I signed her up for a 3GB hotspot device... costs $10 a month total, not bad.

On top of that, T-Mo is playing it smart /w their advertising. I always laugh when I hear AT&T advertising their Next plan /w 4 phones for $160 /w 10GB. That doesn't include phones even. T-Mo slaps them and throws out 10GB for 4 phones for $100... that's $60 lower for the same thing!

It's about time the market got shaken up by someone, because the other carriers are ripping everyone off big time. T-Mo's CEO saw a huge opportunity to make huge changes that made them stand out in a big way and people are moving over in mass. Now if they could expand their coverage /w the extra income, they could do even better.

most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T

 

[soccerballtux]

If T-mobile had coverage where I live I'd jump on it. But I'm relatively happy with my ATT MNVO. Aside from the fact that I can't send MMS (looking at you straight talk)

MMS works fine for me reconfigure your APNs. it's fairly straight forward unless you don't have a BYOP program/have the standard sized SIM that came with the older Nokias etc-- those required different APNs

 

[soccerballtux]

Maybe he meant E? That's my only guess. Because yeah hspa is still fast. AT&T even called it 4g when sprint launched wimax back then.

no, they called it 4G when Verizon started bragging about LTE

 

[Dulanic]

most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T

1xRTT is a CDMA technology, T-Mobile is GSM. Their 3G is HSPA. That's not to say they don't have slow connections, they do, it's called Edge and trust me I am familiar /w it I run into it when I travel and it sucks. And you're right, it's not 3G nor does my phone label it as such, it labels it as E for Edge. I think you may be confusing carriers? You're talking about EVDO which again is a CDMA technology.

Unless you're talking about my Sprint points? Which I agree 100% their 3G isn't 3G unless it is their EVDO RevB which isn't toooooo bad, but it's still slow as hell compared to GSM carriers.

 

[paperwastage]

MMS works fine for me reconfigure your APNs. it's fairly straight forward unless you don't have a BYOP program/have the standard sized SIM that came with the older Nokias etc-- those required different APNs

my friend's AT&T HTC One M7 on 4.4.2 doesn't work well with T-mobile MMS though.. known issue, only way is to flash a t-mobile ROM

http://support.t-mobile.com/message/346828

 

[npaladin-2000]

no, they called it 4G when Verizon started bragging about LTE

Actually they called HSPA 4G when T-Mobile started calling their DC-HSPA+ "4G."

Of course T-Mobile's dual-channel lightly loaded HSPA+ network was vastly superior to and faster than AT&T's typically overloaded single-channel HSPA network. But what can you do?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T

The phone distinctly says 3G or 1x though. You get 100 KBps? Maybe its just Verizon that's so bad, but I get unusable data speeds on Verizon 3G. I know EVDO Rev. A is supposed to promise like 3mbps or whatever, but we get nothing close to that at all. Basically if I don't have LTE, I consider my device useless. Meanwhile I feel comfortable on AT&T 3G.

 

[Red Storm]

The phone distinctly says 3G or 1x though. You get 100 KBps? Maybe its just Verizon that's so bad, but I get unusable data speeds on Verizon 3G. I know EVDO Rev. A is supposed to promise like 3mbps or whatever, but we get nothing close to that at all. Basically if I don't have LTE, I consider my device useless. Meanwhile I feel comfortable on AT&T 3G.

Yeah that was my experience with Verizon too, with LTE I was good, 3G was useless. So while they did have the largest 4G coverage, they needed it because with T-Mobile and AT&T I can actually browse the web on 3G.