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T-Mobile owns other carriers again, in Q2 '14.

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QueBert said:
I have T Mobile and the second my contract's up I'm gone. About a mile from my house I get LTE+, at home I get H, which is the slowest shit since 2g. No exaggerating, while it might not be as slow as the original 3g, it's damn close.
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why dont you just use wifi calling at home?
 
QueBert said:
I have T Mobile and the second my contract's up I'm gone. About a mile from my house I get LTE+, at home I get H, which is the slowest shit since 2g. No exaggerating, while it might not be as slow as the original 3g, it's damn close.
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It's been over a year since T-Mobile stopped doing contracts, and even then they had WiFi calling available since 2011. Plus H is actually HSPA, which is a 3G upgrade, basically 3.5G and generally 10 to 15 mbps, which is better than some LTE implementations get (yes I mean you AT&T).

Oh and I'm not aware of any LTE+ either.
 
npaladin-2000 said:
It's been over a year since T-Mobile stopped doing contracts, and even then they had WiFi calling available since 2011. Plus H is actually HSPA, which is a 3G upgrade, basically 3.5G and generally 10 to 15 mbps, which is better than some LTE implementations get (yes I mean you AT&T).

Oh and I'm not aware of any LTE+ either.
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Maybe he meant E? That's my only guess. Because yeah hspa is still fast. AT&T even called it 4g when sprint launched wimax back then.

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I had T-Mobile from 2002-2009 and was generally happy with it. Spent a few years on AT&T (generous discounts from my employer + I wanted Windows Phone and they had the best selection), and switched back to T-Mobile this year. I've never really had a problem with it - yes, I do occasionally get dead zones that I didn't get with AT&T. But I generally have service anywhere, the LTE is consistently faster than AT&T's was, and it's cheap. Plus, when I went on a trip to Europe this year and got free data / text message roaming? That was amazing.
 
kaerflog said:
Then TMO comes up with 4 lines 10GB for $100.
And just a few days later TMO has the family plan for up to 10 people which will run me $160 -discount+tax.
TMO is letting me leave. Not that I want to.
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Your post doesn't make sense. Why are you leaving T-Mobile if they just came out with a 10 person plan that you like?
 
Dulanic said:
IF you have coverage they are fantastic. I absolutely love their plans and I save a ton over the others. I left Sprint because their price rose to be closer to the other big carriers but their speeds were attrocious. Their 3G is TERRIBLE and their Wimax/LTE was the speed of Tmo/AT&T 3G. 3G is just bad for all the CDMA carriers.

With the money I save when I do travel where I don't get coverage on vacations sometimes I can pick up a prepaid sim and toss it in and hop on AT&T's network and still save a ton of money. It isn't voice that's an issue /w T-Mo in most areas, just data gets to be horrible outside of most large city suburbs.

Their Hotspot devices are awsome too... My mother has T-Mo and barely going online so I signed her up for a 3GB hotspot device... costs $10 a month total, not bad.

On top of that, T-Mo is playing it smart /w their advertising. I always laugh when I hear AT&T advertising their Next plan /w 4 phones for $160 /w 10GB. That doesn't include phones even. T-Mo slaps them and throws out 10GB for 4 phones for $100... that's $60 lower for the same thing!

It's about time the market got shaken up by someone, because the other carriers are ripping everyone off big time. T-Mo's CEO saw a huge opportunity to make huge changes that made them stand out in a big way and people are moving over in mass. Now if they could expand their coverage /w the extra income, they could do even better.
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most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T
 
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gmaster456 said:
If T-mobile had coverage where I live I'd jump on it. But I'm relatively happy with my ATT MNVO. Aside from the fact that I can't send MMS (looking at you straight talk)
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MMS works fine for me reconfigure your APNs. it's fairly straight forward unless you don't have a BYOP program/have the standard sized SIM that came with the older Nokias etc-- those required different APNs
 
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soccerballtux said:
most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T
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1xRTT is a CDMA technology, T-Mobile is GSM. Their 3G is HSPA. That's not to say they don't have slow connections, they do, it's called Edge and trust me I am familiar /w it I run into it when I travel and it sucks. And you're right, it's not 3G nor does my phone label it as such, it labels it as E for Edge. I think you may be confusing carriers? You're talking about EVDO which again is a CDMA technology.

Unless you're talking about my Sprint points? Which I agree 100% their 3G isn't 3G unless it is their EVDO RevB which isn't toooooo bad, but it's still slow as hell compared to GSM carriers.
 
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soccerballtux said:
no, they called it 4G when Verizon started bragging about LTE
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Actually they called HSPA 4G when T-Mobile started calling their DC-HSPA+ "4G."

Of course T-Mobile's dual-channel lightly loaded HSPA+ network was vastly superior to and faster than AT&T's typically overloaded single-channel HSPA network. But what can you do?
 
soccerballtux said:
most of the time their 3G isn't actually 3G-- it's 1xRTT. No, I don't care what you say or think, that's 2.5G, not 3G. it requires an end to end tunnel to be set up for data to go through-- like a fax machine or dialup. It's not packet based like EVDO. Repeat after me-- it's not 3G.

When I was getting EVDO, 100KBps at 150ms ping was plenty fast for anything I needed.
For whatever reason they still haven't fixed issues that caused the phone to hop from a 5 bar tower and EVDO to a 2 bar tower with 1xRTT. Over and over again. After years and years I gave up and went to ST AT&T
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The phone distinctly says 3G or 1x though. You get 100 KBps? Maybe its just Verizon that's so bad, but I get unusable data speeds on Verizon 3G. I know EVDO Rev. A is supposed to promise like 3mbps or whatever, but we get nothing close to that at all. Basically if I don't have LTE, I consider my device useless. Meanwhile I feel comfortable on AT&T 3G.
 
DLeRium said:
The phone distinctly says 3G or 1x though. You get 100 KBps? Maybe its just Verizon that's so bad, but I get unusable data speeds on Verizon 3G. I know EVDO Rev. A is supposed to promise like 3mbps or whatever, but we get nothing close to that at all. Basically if I don't have LTE, I consider my device useless. Meanwhile I feel comfortable on AT&T 3G.
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Yeah that was my experience with Verizon too, with LTE I was good, 3G was useless. So while they did have the largest 4G coverage, they needed it because with T-Mobile and AT&T I can actually browse the web on 3G.
 
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