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Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
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What is nice about texting is when you are the coordinator for the group, you can send out bulk texts like an email. 15 seconds to send many texts at once vs 10 minutes of phone calls.

send to: jim, bob, tom, sally, jane, joan

Meet at xxx at xxx time

However, people who have conversations via texting = stupid
 

ChaoZ

Diamond Member
Apr 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: NFS4
That sounds so fucking impersonal -- sorry. If I want to ask someone something, I just call them up and talk to them. I'd go out of my friggin' mind if I had my buddies all texting me.

It's shit like this that is breaking down our society -- and I'm being serious.
Do you use any instant messaging software?

Only for work and not very often. But even for work, it's used mostly to drop a link to a site or a copy/paste of text that I'm sending quickly. For my friends, family, etc., I strictly use the phone. I'm 28. All of my friends are 26 - 29. None of us use text messaging or IM'ing to stay in touch -- we talk.

I just find text messaging, with the shorthand delivery, to be a dumbing down of society that is slowly creeping into our everyday life.

I just can't help think of 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Are you one of those people that hates new technology and trends? If I want to tell my friend I'm at the school library, I'll just text him and he'll know when he sees it.

And please, you don't use im? You gonna call your friend up and be like, "Hey, go to youtube.com/sdskdjad/skladjerajrad/sroaireads?" If I really want to have a meaningful conversation with my friends I won't call them, I'll set up for us to hang out in person.
 

Joemonkey

Diamond Member
Mar 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I don't get text messaging. I think I've text message twice ever, only in response to someone's text message.

Same here, I just call the person. Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid. If you're in a situation/position where you can't possibly talk to the other person on the phone, then you probably shouldn't be texting either.

Then again, I also don't get into the whole MySpace/Facebook thing. I'm glad I missed that boom.

Its nice when i want to ask my wife, buddy, and his SO if they all want to go out to dinner, what time, and where, and get their responses all back within 15 minutes to send out another text to them that says "OK based on responses how about place X at 5:45pm?"

That sounds so fucking impersonal -- sorry. If I want to ask someone something, I just call them up and talk to them. I'd go out of my friggin' mind if I had my buddies all texting me.

It's shit like this that is breaking down our society -- and I'm being serious.

Better than trying to call all three when they are at work and perhaps in meetings or unable to answer the phone. If I did, and they didn't asnwer, then they'd try to return my call when I can't answer the phone, etc. Its something they can acknolwedge and reply to at their convenience
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: NFS4
That sounds so fucking impersonal -- sorry. If I want to ask someone something, I just call them up and talk to them. I'd go out of my friggin' mind if I had my buddies all texting me.

It's shit like this that is breaking down our society -- and I'm being serious.
Do you use any instant messaging software?

Only for work and not very often. But even for work, it's used mostly to drop a link to a site or a copy/paste of text that I'm sending quickly. For my friends, family, etc., I strictly use the phone. I'm 28. All of my friends are 26 - 29. None of us use text messaging or IM'ing to stay in touch -- we talk.

I just find text messaging, with the shorthand delivery, to be a dumbing down of society that is slowly creeping into our everyday life.

I just can't help think of 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Are you one of those people that hates new technology and trends? If I want to tell my friend I'm at the school library, I'll just text him and he'll know when he sees it.

And please, you don't use im? You gonna call your friend up and be like, "Hey, go to youtube.com/sdskdjad/skladjerajrad/sroaireads?" If I really want to have a meaningful conversation with my friends I won't call them, I'll set up for us to hang out in person.

I write for DailyTech, I stay abreast of most things going on in the tech world. There is just something, however, about shorthand messaging in everyday conversation that irks the hell out of me. I've found, particularly with younger people, that they can't seem to communicate without resorting to a lowest common denominator way of expressing ideas -- and I'm gonna go ahead and blame texting :)

As for YouTube videos, I normally use the "Email to a Friend" link.

My pastor was right. He was talking this past Sunday about as he gets older, he finds himself becoming more intolerant and militant towards certain things... yup, it's happening :)
 

Legendary

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Jan 22, 2002
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NFS4, you're making too many judgments based on the content of texting without considering other factors such as convenience (which really is the #1 selling point for texts)

I don't think you'd find a large # of people on this board who will defend the position that texting is great because of its conversational ease. Quite the opposite most likely. Most carriers have a limit on their texts, making 'conversation' in any useful sense impossible. I refuse to shorten words, so I can only send brief messages through texting. However, I still text at least 50 times a month, and usually more.
Simple confirmation messages of meeting times/places, small anecdotes of remarkable things I see during the day that I want to share, the 'want to go see this movie' feeler...all are common uses of texting that can be sent to anyone with a cell phone (not requiring email or an internet plan...very key) that they can reply to at their leisure. Could have I called all of these people? Yes, but the odds of all of them being free at the exact moment I call them is slim. By sheer probabilities the best way to get accurate answers from all individuals involved is to send them a query that doesn't require an immediate response. Sure voicemail can do this, but then commences phone tag.

So tell me, in an ideal world where people use whole words in text messages all the time, what's your problem with it?
And if your problem is content, well 99% of the time I agree. 5 words:
I DECAY MY BFF JILL

That commercial makes me sympathize with you, but don't hate the technology, hate the user.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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This doesn't mean anything to me, I have a txt package!

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: halik
YES! I can break out of my contract!

Woah....this change will breach the contract on their end? My gf wants out.....this may be a good thing.

Do ya'll have a package, or use txt messaging on a per-message basis, and do you do a good amount of txt messaging? They may not let you out unless you use it without an add-on package.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Legendary
NFS4, you're making too many judgments based on the content of texting without considering other factors such as convenience (which really is the #1 selling point for texts)

I don't think you'd find a large # of people on this board who will defend the position that texting is great because of its conversational ease. Quite the opposite most likely. Most carriers have a limit on their texts, making 'conversation' in any useful sense impossible. I refuse to shorten words, so I can only send brief messages through texting. However, I still text at least 50 times a month, and usually more.
Simple confirmation messages of meeting times/places, small anecdotes of remarkable things I see during the day that I want to share, the 'want to go see this movie' feeler...all are common uses of texting that can be sent to anyone with a cell phone (not requiring email or an internet plan...very key) that they can reply to at their leisure. Could have I called all of these people? Yes, but the odds of all of them being free at the exact moment I call them is slim. By sheer probabilities the best way to get accurate answers from all individuals involved is to send them a query that doesn't require an immediate response. Sure voicemail can do this, but then commences phone tag.

So tell me, in an ideal world where people use whole words in text messages all the time, what's your problem with it?
And if your problem is content, well 99% of the time I agree. 5 words:
I DECAY MY BFF JILL

That commercial makes me sympathize with you, but don't hate the technology, hate the user.

I can see your point, but I guess I've just grown accustomed to not having to rely on texting. My friends and I are pretty close and we all live in relatively close proximity to each other. We all know each other's daily schedules (for the most part), so it's very rarely that we can't hook up via phone when needed.

My best friend works for the state, so I know that I can call him up pretty much any time of the day and he won't be busy ;) My parents aren't going to mess with texting, so I don't have to worry about that. And the people I regularly talk to on the phone don't text anyway, so there's really no need for me to either.

I'm glad that some of you can find joy in texting, it just ain't for me :)
 

ajskydiver

Golden Member
Jan 7, 2000
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Every woman I've ever dated or am currently friends with love to text. I had to get the 400 for 4.99 plan just to avoid paying $15-20 more per month. And yes, they knew I didn't have a plan & I don't like to text...but they'd send them to me anyway.
 

oddyager

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May 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Hmm....well I was looking for a reason to jump ship to AT&T other than 3G...but it will be hard to give up my 1,000 anytime minutes w/ NW for $39.99....

AT&T raised txt messaging prices, too.
 

kstu

Golden Member
Feb 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Legendary
NFS4, you're making too many judgments based on the content of texting without considering other factors such as convenience (which really is the #1 selling point for texts)

I don't think you'd find a large # of people on this board who will defend the position that texting is great because of its conversational ease. Quite the opposite most likely. Most carriers have a limit on their texts, making 'conversation' in any useful sense impossible. I refuse to shorten words, so I can only send brief messages through texting. However, I still text at least 50 times a month, and usually more.
Simple confirmation messages of meeting times/places, small anecdotes of remarkable things I see during the day that I want to share, the 'want to go see this movie' feeler...all are common uses of texting that can be sent to anyone with a cell phone (not requiring email or an internet plan...very key) that they can reply to at their leisure. Could have I called all of these people? Yes, but the odds of all of them being free at the exact moment I call them is slim. By sheer probabilities the best way to get accurate answers from all individuals involved is to send them a query that doesn't require an immediate response. Sure voicemail can do this, but then commences phone tag.

So tell me, in an ideal world where people use whole words in text messages all the time, what's your problem with it?
And if your problem is content, well 99% of the time I agree. 5 words:
I DECAY MY BFF JILL

That commercial makes me sympathize with you, but don't hate the technology, hate the user.

I can see your point, but I guess I've just grown accustomed to not having to rely on texting. My friends and I are pretty close and we all live in relatively close proximity to each other. We all know each other's daily schedules (for the most part), so it's very rarely that we can't hook up via phone when needed.

My best friend works for the state, so I know that I can call him up pretty much any time of the day and he won't be busy ;) My parents aren't going to mess with texting, so I don't have to worry about that. And the people I regularly talk to on the phone don't text anyway, so there's really no need for me to either.

I'm glad that some of you can find joy in texting, it just ain't for me :)
It's easy to see now that texting is not a useful tool for you. However, this quote:
Originally posted by: NFS4
Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid.
... is just ignorant. The situation between you and your friends is far from the norm. As was said above, I am not trying to argue that texting is a smart way to carry on a complex conversation. It is, however, a quick and easy way to communicate with a person or group of people that doesn't require an immediate response from the receiving party.

I guess I will add to my question above about instant messaging. What about when you were in college? Did you ever get on AIM or whatever and quickly send a message to 5 or 6 friends to see what they were doing that night? I would have a hard time believing you if you didn't say yes. It's the same now, but instead we're using cell phones. In about 30 seconds, I can send that same message out to a group of friends and they can respond at their leisure. Alternatively, I could spend 10 minutes calling those same 5 people and maybe speak to 2 of them, if I'm lucky.

You might not use texting, but please tell me you can at least understand how it can be a valuable tool.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Legendary
NFS4, you're making too many judgments based on the content of texting without considering other factors such as convenience (which really is the #1 selling point for texts)

I don't think you'd find a large # of people on this board who will defend the position that texting is great because of its conversational ease. Quite the opposite most likely. Most carriers have a limit on their texts, making 'conversation' in any useful sense impossible. I refuse to shorten words, so I can only send brief messages through texting. However, I still text at least 50 times a month, and usually more.
Simple confirmation messages of meeting times/places, small anecdotes of remarkable things I see during the day that I want to share, the 'want to go see this movie' feeler...all are common uses of texting that can be sent to anyone with a cell phone (not requiring email or an internet plan...very key) that they can reply to at their leisure. Could have I called all of these people? Yes, but the odds of all of them being free at the exact moment I call them is slim. By sheer probabilities the best way to get accurate answers from all individuals involved is to send them a query that doesn't require an immediate response. Sure voicemail can do this, but then commences phone tag.

So tell me, in an ideal world where people use whole words in text messages all the time, what's your problem with it?
And if your problem is content, well 99% of the time I agree. 5 words:
I DECAY MY BFF JILL

That commercial makes me sympathize with you, but don't hate the technology, hate the user.

I can see your point, but I guess I've just grown accustomed to not having to rely on texting. My friends and I are pretty close and we all live in relatively close proximity to each other. We all know each other's daily schedules (for the most part), so it's very rarely that we can't hook up via phone when needed.

My best friend works for the state, so I know that I can call him up pretty much any time of the day and he won't be busy ;) My parents aren't going to mess with texting, so I don't have to worry about that. And the people I regularly talk to on the phone don't text anyway, so there's really no need for me to either.

I'm glad that some of you can find joy in texting, it just ain't for me :)
It's easy to see now that texting is not a useful tool for you. However, this quote:
Originally posted by: NFS4
Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid.
... is just ignorant. The situation between you and your friends is far from the norm. As was said above, I am not trying to argue that texting is a smart way to carry on a complex conversation. It is, however, a quick and easy way to communicate with a person or group of people that doesn't require an immediate response from the receiving party.

I guess I will add to my question above about instant messaging. What about when you were in college? Did you ever get on AIM or whatever and quickly send a message to 5 or 6 friends to see what they were doing that night? I would have a hard time believing you if you didn't say yes. It's the same now, but instead we're using cell phones. In about 30 seconds, I can send that same message out to a group of friends and they can respond at their leisure. Alternatively, I could spend 10 minutes calling those same 5 people and maybe speak to 2 of them, if I'm lucky.

You might not use texting, but please tell me you can at least understand how it can be a valuable tool.

I don't think it's fair to quote me out of sequence. The last comment you quoted was the first comment I posted in this thread. The first comment you quoted is my last response to this thread.

By that time, I had pretty much admitted that it is beneficial to some people, but not to me.
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
25,696
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June 27th is the official announcement, you've got until july 27th to cancel your plan w/o early termination fee. Wow tmobile apparently wants people to get iphones...
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I have no qualms with texting. Sometimes I simply want to just throw something out... not have a full blown conversation. It also lets people answer them at their leisure rather than having to tie them up in a conversation.

But even with that, I try not to send many texts at all. I only have the AT&T $5 text plan (I forget how many it is... 250 I guess?) But some people I know are definitely text fiends. Personally, I prefer using AIM on my phone.
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Same here, I just call the person. Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid. If you're in a situation/position where you can't possibly talk to the other person on the phone, then you probably shouldn't be texting either.

bars are loud.




anyway, the fact that they charge anything for texting is absolutely ridiculous.
 

kstu

Golden Member
Feb 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: NFS4
I don't think it's fair to quote me out of sequence. The last comment you quoted was the first comment I posted in this thread. The first comment you quoted is my last response to this thread.

By that time, I had pretty much admitted that it is beneficial to some people, but not to me.
Right, and I recognized that. I guess I was only asking if your opinion had changed. You admitted texting just wasn't useful for you, but you didn't exactly disclaim your original assertion.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: Deeko
Hmm....well I was looking for a reason to jump ship to AT&T other than 3G...but it will be hard to give up my 1,000 anytime minutes w/ NW for $39.99....

AT&T raised txt messaging prices, too.

Well the reason I'm considering leaving is 3G, I have an N95, even if TMobile gets off their ass and releases 3G my phone won't support it. But that alone isn't enough to make me leave considering how cheap my rate plan is, ya know? If the prices become similar, I'll have no motivation.
 
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I don't get text messaging. I think I've text message twice ever, only in response to someone's text message.

Same here, I just call the person. Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid. If you're in a situation/position where you can't possibly talk to the other person on the phone, then you probably shouldn't be texting either.

Then again, I also don't get into the whole MySpace/Facebook thing. I'm glad I missed that boom.

Its nice when i want to ask my wife, buddy, and his SO if they all want to go out to dinner, what time, and where, and get their responses all back within 15 minutes to send out another text to them that says "OK based on responses how about place X at 5:45pm?"

That sounds so fucking impersonal -- sorry. If I want to ask someone something, I just call them up and talk to them. I'd go out of my friggin' mind if I had my buddies all texting me.

It's shit like this that is breaking down our society -- and I'm being serious.

you're an idiot. i'd like to text that to you.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I don't get text messaging. I think I've text message twice ever, only in response to someone's text message.

Same here, I just call the person. Texting just seems... uhh, childish and stupid. If you're in a situation/position where you can't possibly talk to the other person on the phone, then you probably shouldn't be texting either.

Then again, I also don't get into the whole MySpace/Facebook thing. I'm glad I missed that boom.

Its nice when i want to ask my wife, buddy, and his SO if they all want to go out to dinner, what time, and where, and get their responses all back within 15 minutes to send out another text to them that says "OK based on responses how about place X at 5:45pm?"

That sounds so fucking impersonal -- sorry. If I want to ask someone something, I just call them up and talk to them. I'd go out of my friggin' mind if I had my buddies all texting me.

It's shit like this that is breaking down our society -- and I'm being serious.

you're an idiot. i'd like to text that to you.

haha that's a bit much, but yea, the level which some people hate text messaging is ridiculous. It IS very convenient for something short that doesn't necessarily need an immediate response - it's much less intrusive on both sides.

Another example is when I'm in the office. If I need to talk to someone, I could use my phone - but a text message is a lot less bothersome to coworkers. *cue the OMGZ DEEKO Y ARENT YOU WORKING IN THE OFFICE LOL! responses*, well, settle down champ, I do plenty of work in the office, and I hope anyone who even thinks that isn't posting in this thread at work.