Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

[OutHouse]

oh my, if this maniac actually uses chems, im thinking Damascus will be obliterated.



http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-into-bombs-military-awaits-assads-order?lite

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Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

So far, intelligence sources say, bombs loaded with the components of sarin haven't yet been loaded onto planes. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.
By Jim Miklaszewski and M. Alex Johnson, NBC News

The Syrian military is prepared to use chemical weapons against its own people and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday.
Andrea Mitchell, Robert Windrem, Courtney Kube and Catherine Chomiak of NBC News contributed to this report. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook.

The military has loaded the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs that could be dropped onto the Syrian people from dozens of fighter-bombers, the officials said.

As recently as Tuesday, officials had said there was as yet no evidence that the process of mixing the "precursor" chemicals had begun. But Wednesday, they said their worst fears had been confirmed: The nerve agents were locked and loaded inside the bombs.

 

[MovingTarget]

Here we go again....

Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on your perspective), we have learned from the boondoggle in Iraq not to go in guns-blazing unless we have something more concrete. If Assad ends up using them in highly populated areas, you can expect that Syria will quickly be invaded and the Assad regime will end for good. Realistically, there is a small chance that we may see some minor use of these weapons as a last resort. The outcome of the situation in Syria will all but be assured by the time the order(s) are given.

 

[First]

Time to carpet bomb the shit out of their planes. We cannot in good conscience let a chemical genocide take place, I imagine.

 

[randomrogue]

What's really bad about this story is that I don't believe it. When I see this story all I really see is "American Propaganda"

 

[DominionSeraph]

What's really bad about this story is that I don't believe it. When I see this story all I really see is "American Propaganda"

Liberals are reality-based. It is conservatives who act based on propaganda.

 

[Doppel]

What's really bad about this story is that I don't believe it. When I see this story all I really see is "American Propaganda"

For good reason. I suspect what is being reported is "probably" true, but I would not truly believe it without multiple credible sources saying it's happening.

I predicted in the other thread and maintain here I do not think Assad will use chem weapons against his people. It will be signing a death warrant (even more than he already has).

 

[randomrogue]

Liberals are reality-based. It is conservatives who act based on propaganda.

Days before the March 20 invasion, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll found support for the war was related to UN approval. Nearly six in 10 said they were ready for such an invasion "in the next week or two." But that support dropped off if the U.N. backing was not first obtained. If the U.N. Security Council were to reject a resolution paving the way for military action, 54% of Americans favored a U.S. invasion. And if the Bush administration did not seek a final Security Council vote, support for a war dropped to 47%.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popula...the_invasion_of_Iraq#cite_note-usatoday2003-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popula...the_invasion_of_Iraq#cite_note-usatoday2003-1
An ABC News/Washington Post poll taken after the beginning of the war showed a 62% support for the war, lower than the 79% in favor at the beginning of the Persian Gulf War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq

I don't think party affiliation has much to do with any of this.

 

[DominionSeraph]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq

I don't think party affiliation has much to do with any of this.

What does Iraq have to do with anything, moron?

 

[randomrogue]

What does Iraq have to do with anything, moron?

If you can't connect the dots with respect to a discussion about propaganda then that's your problem.

 

[dmcowen674]

Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

Where does it say in the Constitution the U.S. is the world's police?

 

[DominionSeraph]

If you can't connect the dots with respect to a discussion about propaganda then that's your problem.

If you don't know that Iraq was in clear violation of several UN resolutions, that's your problem. I am not responsible for facts being over your head. Your deficiencies are your own.

 

[randomrogue]

If you don't know that Iraq was in clear violation of several UN resolutions, that's your problem. I am not responsible for facts being over your head. Your deficiencies are your own.

You're clearly not old enough to remember the build up to the 2003 invasion. Read a history book.

 

[michal1980]

knowing liberals they'll act after thosands die

 

[randomrogue]

knowing liberals they'll act after thosands die

Are you suggesting a preemptive strike?

 

[DominionSeraph]

You're clearly not old enough to remember the build up to the 2003 invasion. Read a history book.

You read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

 

[OutHouse]

Jesus Christ, can we please stop talking about Iraq!!!!! Go make your own Iraq thread.

 

[RampantAndroid]

How long until we get a no fly zone...then start looking to bomb assad?

 

[HomerJS]

Can't believe their military would carry this out.

I think we are going to have to pay off this nut and get him out of the country.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Jesus Christ, can we please stop talking about Iraq!!!!! Go make your own Iraq thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark

 

[michal1980]

Are you suggesting a preemptive strike?

it should be considered.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Can't believe their military would carry this out.

I think we are going to have to pay off this nut and get him out of the country.

Pay off....what? Are you kidding me? If anything we'll do what we did with Gaddafi - no fly zone (since these are conventional bombs) and if we care to we'll try to target him with our own bombs.

Not saying whether I agree (I think a no fly zone would be the maximum I'd do for now) but this is what will probably happen.

 

[DominionSeraph]

it should be considered.

LOL, silly conservatard. If Obama were to do any such thing conservative talk would program you to think it's illegal and an outrage.

 

[Lemon law]

What's really bad about this story is that I don't believe it. When I see this story all I really see is "American Propaganda"

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As I have to totally disagree with you. And also disagree with this stuff about American propaganda and all the implied Republirat criticism of Obama policies in the Arab Spring that already happened.

This is not your GWB bullshit, where GWB falsely claimed Saddam had WMD and the USA had to intervene to prevent the the use of all the Saddam WMD that Saddam did not have.

As Obama on maybe good intelligence is drawing that line in the sand, that if Assad of Syria uses Chemical against his own people, then the USA and the entire international community will have to remove Assad by force.

As we can note that Syria has been the biggest failure of the Arab spring movement, on both the part of Addad and the international community. As Fiddling while Syria burned has been a giant mistake for everyone.

As we can note when the Arab Spring hit Syria, Basheid Assad took a page out of his Daddy playbook. As violent repression always worked so well for his daddy, as Assad the younger was amazed to see that time honored tactic it no longer worked for him one year later. And here Assad the younger, one year later is losing to the Rebels. While Assad's military backs Assad 100%.

Sadly IMHO, the international community should have intervened a year ago. But now we pay the price, because now the Syrian opposition has alos allied with Al-Quida as Al-Quida saw their chances and exploited them.

Now we in the chickenshit world have a delicious dilemma, back Assad in his use of chemical weapons, back the rebels in the hopes they don't back Al-Quida help, or do nothing.

The USA and the international snoozed and now we wonder while its a lose lose lose situation for everyone in Syria and the larger world.

Another case of Chicken shit rides again for the international community. And Proof Ben Franklin was wrong, why use a stitch in time, when we can kill far more innocent people by kicking the can down the road.

 

[Matt1970]

As soon as someone starts using chemical weapons it is no longer about politics, this is about humanity. The US and anyone who wishes to help should step up and do what's right. Drop your political affiliation at the door and support our American President and our American troops.

 

[michal1980]

LOL, silly conservatard. If Obama were to do any such thing conservative talk would program you to think it's illegal and an outrage.

nope.