chiwawa626
Lifer
if KDS was unavalible i'd get the 955DF
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Syncmaster 955DF vs. 900IFT?
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I have a 19" CTX 960 PRF that I think is superior to the KDS AV195-TF, reasons, it's got BNC outputs, the KDS doesn't, it has a built in USB hub, nada for the KDS and it's generally available cheaper than the KDS monitor. As for display quality - about the same or better, the only KDS AV195-TF I've seen was on a friends system equipped with an older 8MB ATI AIW card. The CTX monitors drivers load a CTX color profile into the display properties which really brightens colors.
Ya know RKM, the damper wires are allot less visible in the newer FD tubes, I really have to look hard to find them unlike older Sony tubes where the lines were very annoying. This FD CTX is better in every way(display wise) to the 900IFT I replaced it with. While some people don't give a hoot what a monitors external appearance looks like, the Samsung is butt ugly in my opinion - way to much plastic case around the screen, but that's my opinion.
Ya know RKM, the damper wires are allot less visible in the newer FD tubes, I really have to look hard to find them unlike older Sony tubes where the lines were very annoying. This FD CTX is better in every way(display wise) to the 900IFT I replaced it with. While some people don't give a hoot what a monitors external appearance looks like, the Samsung is butt ugly in my opinion - way to much plastic case around the screen, but that's my opinion.
jimmygates
Platinum Member
hahaha...I hear you mschell. I think my Samsung 900NF looks...lookable.🙂 Maybe I can spray paint it black to make it match my speakers...heh
-Jimbo
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Gah... do CTXs got those slide down trey controls? No. Do they have a blue striple across the top? No. Do they have a stylish neck? No.
Whether AG looks better than SM is purely personal, whether the damper wires look apparent or not is also purely personal.
And generally cheaper than KDS? CTX isnt even available in most places, if you can find a store with lower price, they charge you your leg for shipping. The KDS can also be found for around $320 in Mercata, unbeatable deal.
Whether AG looks better than SM is purely personal, whether the damper wires look apparent or not is also purely personal.
And generally cheaper than KDS? CTX isnt even available in most places, if you can find a store with lower price, they charge you your leg for shipping. The KDS can also be found for around $320 in Mercata, unbeatable deal.
Well, a little update on my purchase situation. I couldn't get an answer on the price discrepency because the owner wasn't in the store on Saturday. I figured it would be useless talking to one of the salespeople. I have been dealing with the owner of the shop exclusively up til now so no point in haggeling (sp?) with someone who isn't authorized to cut me a deal in the first place. Long story short... I'll have to wait til Monday to get a straight answer on the price difference between the 955DF and the 900IFT.
A quick thanks to LXi being one of the few to understand where I'm coming from on the AG issue... I don't have anything against AG or the people who use and enjoy them. I'm just one of those people that can't get past knowing those wires are there. It's like I can't help looking for them. I don't know why... I just know that if I did buy an AG monitor I'd end up kicking myself after a while wondering why I bought it knowing it'd drive me nuts.
I will keep the forum posted on what transpires with the price thing and after I purchase what my thoughts are on my choice. I'm not afraid to be brutally honest with myself either about whether or not I made a poor choice. In case anyone hasn't noticed... I'm one of those "weeks of research" types before purchasing anything. Drives my wife crazy!
A quick thanks to LXi being one of the few to understand where I'm coming from on the AG issue... I don't have anything against AG or the people who use and enjoy them. I'm just one of those people that can't get past knowing those wires are there. It's like I can't help looking for them. I don't know why... I just know that if I did buy an AG monitor I'd end up kicking myself after a while wondering why I bought it knowing it'd drive me nuts.
I will keep the forum posted on what transpires with the price thing and after I purchase what my thoughts are on my choice. I'm not afraid to be brutally honest with myself either about whether or not I made a poor choice. In case anyone hasn't noticed... I'm one of those "weeks of research" types before purchasing anything. Drives my wife crazy!
There's actually a couple of reasons I prefer to buy locally than online.
1)I live in a small town in western Canada that all delivery services will gladly charge overnight shipping and then if you read the fine print it doesn't apply to rural areas where they have to resort to using "private contractors" to get the parcel to you. This applies to UPS, FedEx, Purolator, Canada Post, et al.
2)I have had problems in the past with parcels going "missing" and then suddenly showing up but days past when they were promised. I can't stay home and wait days on end for some guy to show up in his beat up pickup truck with my monitor (or whatever) in the back exposed to the elements. This has actually happened more than once and when I complained (UPS in one instance) the rep I was talking to blamed the "private contractors" they are "forced" to use to get to the rural areas. The guy with the pickup blamed UPS (of course).
3)I don't mind paying a little more to do business with the local merchant who is trying to make a living by offering excellent service (they do go above and beyond the call) as their only form of competition to the "superstores" of the city. It always amazes me that some people will drive 3 hours (each way) in the winter to save $100.00 or so on a computer and then when it doesn't work like they think it should they call the local guys and expect to be "talked through it" on the phone for free. Sheeesh.
I know that was probably more info than you wanted but in the end it comes down to a little extra money (notice I said little... I'm not willing to put someone's kid through college or anything) in exchange for a little less stress.
1)I live in a small town in western Canada that all delivery services will gladly charge overnight shipping and then if you read the fine print it doesn't apply to rural areas where they have to resort to using "private contractors" to get the parcel to you. This applies to UPS, FedEx, Purolator, Canada Post, et al.
2)I have had problems in the past with parcels going "missing" and then suddenly showing up but days past when they were promised. I can't stay home and wait days on end for some guy to show up in his beat up pickup truck with my monitor (or whatever) in the back exposed to the elements. This has actually happened more than once and when I complained (UPS in one instance) the rep I was talking to blamed the "private contractors" they are "forced" to use to get to the rural areas. The guy with the pickup blamed UPS (of course).
3)I don't mind paying a little more to do business with the local merchant who is trying to make a living by offering excellent service (they do go above and beyond the call) as their only form of competition to the "superstores" of the city. It always amazes me that some people will drive 3 hours (each way) in the winter to save $100.00 or so on a computer and then when it doesn't work like they think it should they call the local guys and expect to be "talked through it" on the phone for free. Sheeesh.
I know that was probably more info than you wanted but in the end it comes down to a little extra money (notice I said little... I'm not willing to put someone's kid through college or anything) in exchange for a little less stress.
I'm not going to really push the owner for a price reduction. I'll point out the info you directed me to on the Onvia site and if he is willing to drop the price on the IFT by about $50 Cdn. then I will take a chance on that monitor. If he says he can't lower the price then he will have effectively made up my mind for me and I'll go with the 955DF.
The only thing that has me wondering in all this is when you (LXi) mentioned the BNC connection capability of the 900IFT in an earlier post. I have never used BNC before (never had a monitor with that capability) so I am wondering just how much of a difference they make... should I be considering other brands or models that offer BNC connectors at the price point to which I am limited (are there any?). I know the SM monitors aren't as "bright" as the AG's are reported to be so does the BNC help make up for that limitation?
The only thing that has me wondering in all this is when you (LXi) mentioned the BNC connection capability of the 900IFT in an earlier post. I have never used BNC before (never had a monitor with that capability) so I am wondering just how much of a difference they make... should I be considering other brands or models that offer BNC connectors at the price point to which I am limited (are there any?). I know the SM monitors aren't as "bright" as the AG's are reported to be so does the BNC help make up for that limitation?
<<The only thing that has me wondering in all this is when you (LXi) mentioned the BNC connection capability of the 900IFT in an earlier post. I have never used BNC before (never had a monitor with that capability) so I am wondering just how much of a difference they make...>>
It will depend on your video card, but BNC makes signals more clear because it has 5 different cables instead of one, the signals can travel in a more clean path. Generally you'll see better text quality, better image clarity and so on. Make sure you can some well constructed BNC cables when you buy them, cheap BNCs dont worth nothing.
<<should I be considering other brands or models that offer BNC connectors at the price point to which I am limited (are there any?). I know the SM monitors aren't as "bright" as the AG's are reported to be so does the BNC help make up for that limitation?>>
Hm... currently I dont know any good shadow masks with BNC supports, however a lot of the AG tubes do have BNC inputs. The SMs arent as bright, but they're plenty bright, especially the Samsung DynaFlat tubes, they're generally brighter than regular SM tubes. And yes BNCs will help making up that limitation.
It will depend on your video card, but BNC makes signals more clear because it has 5 different cables instead of one, the signals can travel in a more clean path. Generally you'll see better text quality, better image clarity and so on. Make sure you can some well constructed BNC cables when you buy them, cheap BNCs dont worth nothing.
<<should I be considering other brands or models that offer BNC connectors at the price point to which I am limited (are there any?). I know the SM monitors aren't as "bright" as the AG's are reported to be so does the BNC help make up for that limitation?>>
Hm... currently I dont know any good shadow masks with BNC supports, however a lot of the AG tubes do have BNC inputs. The SMs arent as bright, but they're plenty bright, especially the Samsung DynaFlat tubes, they're generally brighter than regular SM tubes. And yes BNCs will help making up that limitation.
>>>LXi wrote>>>
>It will depend on your video card, but BNC makes signals more clear >because it has 5 different cables instead of one, the signals can travel >in a more clean path. Generally you'll see better text quality, better >image clarity and so on. Make sure you can some well constructed BNC >cables when you buy them, cheap BNCs dont worth nothing.
My current video card is an ASUS V7100 (GeForce2 MX)... I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not when it comes to BNC as I know so little about this subject. I also deduce from your post that the BNC cables are not included with the monitor. I doubt that the local shop has much in stock of this sort of item so what would be a good brand name to ask about ordering?
>Hm... currently I dont know any good shadow masks with BNC supports, >however a lot of the AG tubes do have BNC inputs. The SMs arent as >bright, but they're plenty bright, especially the Samsung DynaFlat >tubes, they're generally brighter than regular SM tubes. And yes BNCs >will help making up that limitation.
Okay, from what you have said I think that I won't be "too" heart-broken if I can't get the IFT for the price I would like. I do like the idea of having BNC capability just from the standpoint that I may want it in the future and I hate that feeling of regret over not getting a model that has a feature you want in the future. I really can't see myself buying another monitor after this one for a few years so I want to cover all realistic bases with this one purchase.
Thanks for all the help, it's appreciated.
>It will depend on your video card, but BNC makes signals more clear >because it has 5 different cables instead of one, the signals can travel >in a more clean path. Generally you'll see better text quality, better >image clarity and so on. Make sure you can some well constructed BNC >cables when you buy them, cheap BNCs dont worth nothing.
My current video card is an ASUS V7100 (GeForce2 MX)... I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not when it comes to BNC as I know so little about this subject. I also deduce from your post that the BNC cables are not included with the monitor. I doubt that the local shop has much in stock of this sort of item so what would be a good brand name to ask about ordering?
>Hm... currently I dont know any good shadow masks with BNC supports, >however a lot of the AG tubes do have BNC inputs. The SMs arent as >bright, but they're plenty bright, especially the Samsung DynaFlat >tubes, they're generally brighter than regular SM tubes. And yes BNCs >will help making up that limitation.
Okay, from what you have said I think that I won't be "too" heart-broken if I can't get the IFT for the price I would like. I do like the idea of having BNC capability just from the standpoint that I may want it in the future and I hate that feeling of regret over not getting a model that has a feature you want in the future. I really can't see myself buying another monitor after this one for a few years so I want to cover all realistic bases with this one purchase.
Thanks for all the help, it's appreciated.
No its not included in the monitor, but the cables are only about $20 USD. As for brand name, they dont usually translate to good quality, you'll have to see the construction of the thing to decide. And dont be too disappoint if you cant find a good BNC cable or for budget reasons you cant get the IFT. I mean these monitors are suppose to work right with VGA cables, BNC is just something extra you might want.
If neither the DF nor the IFT satisfy you, ask the store if they have Hitachi SuperScan 771/772 available, they're also flat SMs, but they come pretty hefty price.
If neither the DF nor the IFT satisfy you, ask the store if they have Hitachi SuperScan 771/772 available, they're also flat SMs, but they come pretty hefty price.
>>>LXi wrote>>>
<< If neither the DF nor the IFT satisfy you, ask the store if they have Hitachi SuperScan 771/772 available, they're also flat SMs, but they come pretty hefty price. >>
That's interesting that you should say that about the price of the Hitachi. I did get a quote on the 771 at the same time as I was narrowing down which brand/model I was looking for in a new monitor. The Hitachi is within $5.00 Cdn. (about $780.00 give or take $5) of the 900IFT.
This leads me to believe that the price I was quoted on the 900IFT was a mistake as I have heard that the Hitachi's are expensive.
<< If neither the DF nor the IFT satisfy you, ask the store if they have Hitachi SuperScan 771/772 available, they're also flat SMs, but they come pretty hefty price. >>
That's interesting that you should say that about the price of the Hitachi. I did get a quote on the 771 at the same time as I was narrowing down which brand/model I was looking for in a new monitor. The Hitachi is within $5.00 Cdn. (about $780.00 give or take $5) of the 900IFT.
This leads me to believe that the price I was quoted on the 900IFT was a mistake as I have heard that the Hitachi's are expensive.
Well, now that you mention it I guess it makes the original price quotes I got from the local store seem less like a mistake. I just checked the Canadian page of the Onvia site and they don't list a 19" Hitachi as available so I can't check the Cdn. price for their site.
Here's another question for you if you're up to it.🙂
The Onvia site lists the 955SL (short neck version... I assume) as more than $50.00 less than the 955DF. Is there any image problems inherent with the short neck design that wouldn't be a problem with the standard design? I would be interested in the short design only if the picture quality is as good as the regular size monitor. I don't have a need for the short version at the moment but you never know where this monitor could end up in the future and the short version may come in handy. I will reiterate though that it is only a consideration if the image is equal to the standard design.
Here's another question for you if you're up to it.🙂
The Onvia site lists the 955SL (short neck version... I assume) as more than $50.00 less than the 955DF. Is there any image problems inherent with the short neck design that wouldn't be a problem with the standard design? I would be interested in the short design only if the picture quality is as good as the regular size monitor. I don't have a need for the short version at the moment but you never know where this monitor could end up in the future and the short version may come in handy. I will reiterate though that it is only a consideration if the image is equal to the standard design.
gtd2000:
Please do, that will help a great deal.
RKM:
The 955SL is not a flat screen monitor, as far as I know early generation shortnecks do suffer image problems but most manufacturers found a way around. You should take a look at it if you want to save some money and deskspace.
Please do, that will help a great deal.
RKM:
The 955SL is not a flat screen monitor, as far as I know early generation shortnecks do suffer image problems but most manufacturers found a way around. You should take a look at it if you want to save some money and deskspace.
Samsung just came round to collect my 900IFT for adjustment.
They left a 753DF as a temp relacement, this monitor is very bright by comparision and has much sharper text than my IFT model, very slight bowing is present at the top of the screen but otherwise it is generally much better than the IFT version......?
They left a 753DF as a temp relacement, this monitor is very bright by comparision and has much sharper text than my IFT model, very slight bowing is present at the top of the screen but otherwise it is generally much better than the IFT version......?
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