Swamp Cooler

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: caspur
Guyver01 wtf happened that you moved to CO? Another transplant from the big apple ....I'm over in the centennial airport area a lot.

I worked for American Home Mortgage... one of the big companies in LI that went belly up from the Sub-prime bust... put about 1000 IT people in LI out of work and into the job market.

My GF's family is out here in Colorado (im in Littleton, and work in Centennial.. used to work at Arrow over there in Inverness) so we moved to CO and found work within a month of moving here.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

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What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

 

[IronWing]

Swamp cooler animation


Swamp cooler use much less electricity that AC and don't require the house to be sealed up like a crypt as with AC. With swamp coolers you get a constant supply of fresh air moving through the house. However their ability to cool drops sharply with rising humidity level.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This


What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

Buy a good cooler and you get an excellent motor, steel pulleys, and good bearings. You get what you pay for. Yes, they do need to be cleaned and the pads replaced at least yearly.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: guyver01
Is calling an Air Conditioner a Swamp Cooler a regional thing? When i lived in NYC, i never once heard of a swamp cooler..

Now that i live in Colorado, all people talk about is "getting their swamp cooler up and running this weekend"

never heard of one until i moved to colorado

of course, a swamp cooler wouldnt be too effective in a place like texas....

edit: it is very dry here in the front range. its been keeping my house between 65-68* when "on" (no temp control). it runs 24/7....noisy but you get acclimated to it

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This.
It's technology that pre-dates today's refrigerated air conditioning...and was the best you could get for home use for many decades.
They definitely work best in dry climates, as the evaporative process adds quite a bit of moisture to the air in the house, even with good air flow...which is a MUST for them to circulate air properly.

Hell, I'm old enough to remember swamp coolers for cars back in the late 50's and early 60's...before AC became more-or-less standard on cars.

 

[Dumac]

I've never heard of a swamp cooler...

If they are meant for dry climates, why are they called swamp coolers? Swamps are already humid enough.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Dumac
I've never heard of a swamp cooler...

If they are meant for dry climates, why are they called swamp coolers? Swamps are already humid enough.

/facepalm

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Dumac
I've never heard of a swamp cooler...

If they are meant for dry climates, why are they called swamp coolers? Swamps are already humid enough.

/facepalm

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Dumac
I've never heard of a swamp cooler...

If they are meant for dry climates, why are they called swamp coolers? Swamps are already humid enough.

A swamp cooler uses the evaporation of water to cool the air.

Look at this Physchrometric Chart.

If the dry bulb temperature is 100F and the humidity ratio is 0.006, you can cool the air to about 67F.

If the dry bulb temperature is 100F and the humidity ratio is 0.002, you can cool the air to 60F.

If it is extremely humid, however, the swamp cooler may only shave off 10F.

 

[Electric Amish]

I love my swamper here in SLC.

 

[Nik]

Hey Safeway. Do you have a replacement image for that? One that doesn't look like it's been faxed 100 times? One we can read?

 

[Pliablemoose]

I always thought the auto version was sort of cool Text

I saw them in use in Colorado when I was there.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: guyver01
Is calling an Air Conditioner a Swamp Cooler a regional thing? When i lived in NYC, i never once heard of a swamp cooler..

Now that i live in Colorado, all people talk about is "getting their swamp cooler up and running this weekend"

never heard of one until i moved to colorado

of course, a swamp cooler wouldnt be too effective in a place like texas....

edit: it is very dry here in the front range. its been keeping my house between 65-68* when "on" (no temp control). it runs 24/7....noisy but you get acclimated to it

im from az, ive always had ac instead of swamps. i hated going to places that used swamp coolers, especially bars. they were always sticky and muggy. when we moved to texas for a few months and stayed with family, pretty much everyone in the town of brady had swamp coolers in their house, which didnt make sense to me.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Nik
Hey Safeway. Do you have a replacement image for that? One that doesn't look like it's been faxed 100 times? One we can read?

Do a Google Image search for Physchrometric Chart.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Nik
Hey Safeway. Do you have a replacement image for that? One that doesn't look like it's been faxed 100 times? One we can read?

Do a Google Image search for "Psychrometric Chart".

I fixed that for better results with teh google

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Nik
Hey Safeway. Do you have a replacement image for that? One that doesn't look like it's been faxed 100 times? One we can read?

Do a Google Image search for "Psychrometric Chart".

I fixed that for better results with teh google

Even after three years of using the chart, I still misspell it! (Architectural Engineering) Ugh.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Here's one that's easy to read
http://www.esmagazine.com/ES/H...7-sakraida-fig1-lg.jpg

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: her209
Well, I figured you knew how to use Google.

what for? noone else does...

if the populace of ATOT used google instead of posting... this board would have maybe 1 post per day.

No cus we still get many neffing posts here as well. Those tipping/religion threads aren't going to start themselves.

How much should I tip my Priest...?

Does he swallow?

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Here's one that's easy to read
http://www.esmagazine.com/ES/H...7-sakraida-fig1-lg.jpg

Thank you sir. It is amazing how much information is conveyed in a Psychrometric Chart. Entire heating and cooling cycles plotted on the chart! I always got As in HVAC courses.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This


What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

so...if i dont clean my swamp cooler, i get my own private army?

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This


What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

so...if i dont clean my swamp cooler, i get my own private army?

Cooling towers breed legionnaires, too. Risk vs. Utility dictates that we continue using both cooling towers and evaporative coolers.

 

[Kanalua]

I hate swamp coolers. Used to live in Utah, and all the cheap college apartments had them. Finally moved into a place that didn't and bought a proper a/c...

Now living in Hawaii and nobodies heard of a swap cooler...

 

[iGas]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This


What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

so...if i dont clean my swamp cooler, i get my own private army?

Cooling towers breed legionnaires, too. Risk vs. Utility dictates that we continue using both cooling towers and evaporative coolers.

Cooling towers are commonly use in industrial application in my area, but slowly geothermal heating/cooling is taking over.

<---- geothermal heatpump specialty

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Adul
its known as an evaporative cooler. This is not an AC type of unit. Its consists of a blower, fan, and this fiberish material were water is run through. This has an effect to cool the air down cheaply. Works best in dry hot climates.

This


What most fail to realize, is that if swampies are not regularly cleaned they are a perfect breeding ground for legionnaires to grow. Set bleed to full pace and clean regularly.

I used a chlorine spray to clean them out. Also the bearings are of low quality and the pulleys are plastic. The motors are crap as well.

Your better of with normal air conditioning.

so...if i dont clean my swamp cooler, i get my own private army?

Cooling towers breed legionnaires, too. Risk vs. Utility dictates that we continue using both cooling towers and evaporative coolers.

If you leave the re-circulation pump running and use aspen pads (not that cardboard crap) the chances of breeding legionella is very low. The total dissolved solids in swamp cooler water is extremely high, either at the saturation point for calcium carbonate or even supersaturated due to evaporation. If you turn off the pump and let the water stagnate then you might have problems. Shocking the cooler with bleach is a good maintenance practice.