Susan Rice is who we thought she was

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Thebobo

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In other words, they will never release anything. They can't move forward because it's a baseless case.

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Commodus

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In other words, they will never release anything. They can't move forward because it's a baseless case.

You don't know that it's a baseless case, because they can't legally release the data. How many times do people have to tell you that investigators aren't going to release classified info simply because you want to see it? Whatever the truth, they're not going to publicize it until they have an airtight conclusion... and then only if they believe the data won't compromise operations and national security.

And remember, the FBI only acknowledged that it was investigating possible collusion in March. If it took that long to state that an investigation was even taking place, what makes you think the FBI and other agencies are ready to dive into specifics? I watched the public section of Comey's testimony to the House committee, and it was clear there was a lot that he and others can't talk about in unclassified situations.

Also, as a friendly reminder: both Flynn and Sessions lied about contact with Russia, and Nunes had to bow out of the House investigatory committee after his highly suspicious behavior while trying to distract from the core case. This is an administration that's desperately trying to stymie investigations, and you don't do that if you think you're safe from criminal charges.
 

fskimospy

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LOL.

Yet you are fine and good with the FBI, with all it's resources, offering absolutely zero evidence of anything. More leftist hypocrisy.

They are investigating, they wouldn't release their findings until they are done.

Are you really this stupid?
 

Moonbeam

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They are investigating, they wouldn't release their findings until they are done.

Are you really this stupid?
No, he's a communist agent. It couldn't be more obvious. He said, for example, mindless insanity confirmed, which is a communist code word, not to mention that a bat is just a mole, an "m" word. He's just desperate to try and deflect from Russia's greatest, in their pocket, foreign agent. You know what you get when a yellow bellied coward turns red. Right, Orange Julius Caesar. Nobody can be so stupid as not to know that investigations require detailed parching of masses of data to determine what is evidence and what is noise. Only a traitor would deny something as simple and obvious as that, that it's data that is collected in the past and doesn't become evidence until looked at and judged to be sufficient to act on. That is what building a case means.

Of course, there is a small chance that the only viable alternative is the correct one, that he actually is that stupid. That would be terribly sad.
 
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Chiropteran

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They are investigating, they wouldn't release their findings until they are done.

Are you really this stupid?

It seems you are the stupid one.

Do you want to buy a clue?

Here, this one is a freebie: Susan Rice is being investigated too. We might not have enough to put her in jail today, but it's coming!
 

Chiropteran

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You don't know that it's a baseless case, because they can't legally release the data. How many times do people have to tell you that investigators aren't going to release classified info simply because you want to see it? Whatever the truth, they're not going to publicize it until they have an airtight conclusion... and then only if they believe the data won't compromise operations and national security.

Thanks.

If evidence hasn't been released, that means there is no evidence. If you can't make a claim without evidence, then all of you need to STFU until the evidence actually comes out.

You can't have it both ways. If you are going to call BS on my claims because of lack of evidence, then all of your claims are also BS by default until you can provide hard evidence.
 

Younigue

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In other words, they will never release anything. They can't move forward because it's a baseless case.
Completely absurd human being. Weren't you going to find a forum where people agree with you? You are horrible at your job of converting people to embrace your cult. You don't make convincing arguments or thought provoking statements. You are definitely not meeting your quota. Ya Fiyad (translation: you're fired).
 
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Commodus

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Thanks.

If evidence hasn't been released, that means there is no evidence. If you can't make a claim without evidence, then all of you need to STFU until the evidence actually comes out.

You can't have it both ways. If you are going to call BS on my claims because of lack of evidence, then all of your claims are also BS by default until you can provide hard evidence.

Flynn and Sessions lied about contact with Russia.

There is no question that Russia tried to influence the election through WikiLeaks.

Key campaign members like Manafort and Page had worrying connections to Russian interests.

Roger Stone clearly knew what WikiLeaks was planning days before it happened.

Leaks indicate that Trump campaign members and associates repeatedly talked to senior Russian officials in summer 2016. Why would a campaign that wasn't even close to being elected have need to talk to senior Russian officials, I wonder? (For reference: Nunes' panicky "omg Trump campaign members were under surveillance" claim was a tacit admission that they'd been swept up in monitoring of Russian targets)

Trump, Nunes and other Republicans are desperate to thwart the investigation as far as their authority will allow.

There many not be call transcripts or photos of Trump campaign members trading documents, but there's at least enough evidence to warrant an investigation. And that's the problem: you're trying to pretend as if there's nothing worth investigating, which is absolutely false. I won't presume what the outcome will be, but I will not take the coward's way out and act as if the investigation is a threat to the country.
 

Chiropteran

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You don't make convincing arguments or thought provoking statements.

Do you think I care to convince you of anything?

I'm just dropping knowledge. If you want to ignore it today, that is fine by me, tomorrow when it's proven true I'll be back to tell you I told you so.
 

Chiropteran

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There is no question that Russia tried to influence the election through WikiLeaks.

Assange is a Russian now?

You are really bad at this conspiracy theory crap. At least make up something plausible.

BTW, which Trump person sold US uranium to Russia?

Oh wait, that was Hillary.
 

cytg111

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It seems you are the stupid one.

Do you want to buy a clue?

Here, this one is a freebie: Susan Rice is being investigated too. We might not have enough to put her in jail today, but it's coming!

Here is another freebie: They are investigating you too.
 

cytg111

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Assange is a Russian now?

You are really bad at this conspiracy theory crap. At least make up something plausible.

BTW, which Trump person sold US uranium to Russia?

Oh wait, that was Hillary.

Yes, he has turned into a russian tool. Asylum is about the only option left for this douchebag
 

Commodus

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Assange is a Russian now?

You are really bad at this conspiracy theory crap. At least make up something plausible.

BTW, which Trump person sold US uranium to Russia?

Oh wait, that was Hillary.

Please stop being willfully obtuse.

Guccifer 2.0 is a Russian op; "he" tried to pass off as an individual Romanian, but it became clear that it was actually multiple people of Russian origin. The DNC hacks involved methods used by APT28/29, known Russian government hacking groups. WikiLeaks may not have knowingly cooperated with Russian intelligence (that we know of), but it was at least played for a fool.

Also, selling uranium to Russia isn't great, but do you know what's worse? Manafort supporting a pro-Russia politician in the Ukraine and otherwise having strong incentives to support Russia. Page having contact with Russian officials during the campaign, clearly having Russian energy interests and allegedly being the target of a Russian spy recruitment campaign. Flynn being paid by a Russian propaganda outlet and getting to sit next to Putin. Russia-backed media outlets like RT and Sputnik clearly favoring Trump. And of course, Trump campaign members talking to senior Russian officials months before the vote despite having zero need to do so.

Here's an important distinction: Clinton was not trying to quietly support Russian interests when she sold uranium. You can't say the same for Trump campaign members.
 
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Younigue

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Do you think I care to convince you of anything?

I'm just dropping knowledge. If you want to ignore it today, that is fine by me, tomorrow when it's proven true I'll be back to tell you I told you so.

Because that would be the mature thing to do.

If they aren't guilty... AWESOME! I would prefer it actually.

Doesn't change that Your God is horrendous for the country and his appointed Administration are a bunch of pigs suckling at his pig teets. They are deplorable and the country they want to give you its ugly and though you want to be a part of that ugliness I promise it won't be a society that will be any better to you than to the people of society they are setting out specifically to hurt, divide and hold down. Pretty arrogant to think they'll include you in their perfect world. Silly silly, chew through your leash but only if you promise and mean it that you're not rabid. If you are, Michel Scott will do a charity run for you.

To stick with the thread... Rice is at minimum more innocent than Trump and them! GO TEAM RICE!
 

fskimospy

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It seems you are the stupid one.

Do you want to buy a clue?

Here, this one is a freebie: Susan Rice is being investigated too. We might not have enough to put her in jail today, but it's coming!

Link?

By the way it's pretty funny that you think Rice being investigated (even if true) would mean she was on her way to jail but Trump being investigated means 'nothing to see here!'.

Again, desperate motivated reasoning. Think logically, not emotionally.
 
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Do you think I care to convince you of anything?

I'm just dropping knowledge. If you want to ignore it today, that is fine by me, tomorrow when it's proven true I'll be back to tell you I told you so.
nah, you're dropping bullshit, and pointed fingers, but no facts, not even alt-facts.
 

Jhhnn

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Link?

By the way it's pretty funny that you think Rice being investigated (even if true) would mean she was on her way to jail but Trump being investigated means 'nothing to see here!'.

Again, desperate motivated reasoning. Think logically, not emotionally.

It's standard right wing Benghazification.

The contention is that Rice asked for names to be unmasked in intelligence reports (her right as NSA) intended for her eyes only and that she subsequently leaked the information (a crime).

There is absolutely no evidence for the latter. There's not even any evidence that names other than Flynn were actually leaked at all. What are those names of the Trump entourage caught up in surveillance of the Russians that were allegedly leaked? Nobody knows, so they apparently haven't been leaked at all. What we know about their contact with the Russians comes from other sources entirely.
 

cytg111

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It's standard right wing Benghazification.

The contention is that Rice asked for names to be unmasked in intelligence reports (her right as NSA) intended for her eyes only and that she subsequently leaked the information (a crime).

There is absolutely no evidence for the latter. There's not even any evidence that names other than Flynn were actually leaked at all. What are those names of the Trump entourage caught up in surveillance of the Russians that were allegedly leaked? Nobody knows, so they apparently haven't been leaked at all. What we know about their contact with the Russians comes from other sources entirely.

I would like to correct that the fact that information has surfaced, not intended for public eyes, does not equal a 'leak' as in corrupt intelligence/leaking individuals. Information has an abundance of pathways to get out.
I see this narrative beeing adapted, that "leaking" equals "individual" equals "corruption".. and that skips a couple of logical steps in the search of the truth.
 
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Jhhnn

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I would like to correct that the fact that information has surfaced, not intended for public eyes, does not equal a 'leak' as in corrupt intelligence/leaking individuals. Information has an abundance of pathways to get out.
I see this narrative beeing adapted, that "leaking" equals "individual" equals "corruption".. and that skips a couple of logical steps in the search of the truth.

The only person for whom specific information has been revealed has been Flynn & even that is vague. We don't know who in the Trump entourage may have been caught up in surveillance of the Russians or what was said, but there were apparently others that only Nunes, some in the IC & the Whitehouse seem to know about... but they'll be sending it to the HOR committee sometime rsn...
 

brycejones

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The only person for whom specific information has been revealed has been Flynn & even that is vague. We don't know who in the Trump entourage may have been caught up in surveillance of the Russians or what was said, but there were apparently others that only Nunes, some in the IC & the Whitehouse seem to know about... but they'll be sending it to the HOR committee sometime rsn...

The hooker in the pee pee tape must have been an agent. Trump is hosed.