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AMDZen

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Its a completely BS study.

First of all the guy was a complete health nut before he went on the All McDonalds "diet". If your body is used to eating all tofu and vegtables and other ALL healthy foods, then going to this kind of diet would seriously effect someone, a lot more so then someone who is already on a less healthy diet.

Second, the point the OP brought up - nobody is going to eat McDonalds 3 times a day, every day.

People who take this movie seriously are retarded. Which is most people.
 

Legend

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broccoli = pesticides = omg cancer
homegrown vegetables = air particulates = omg cancer
apples = pesticides = omg cancer

Yes, but in the case of brocoli, the health benefits far outweigh the pesticides. Brocoli is like the king of all health foods (based on what we know today).

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=9

Besides, you don't have to buy it. You can buy organic brocoli. And it's not like the grains that were processed to make junk food didn't have pesticides either.

Foods high in pesticides:
Strawberries
Spinach
Peaches
Apples
Carrots (you can taste it, because carrots have such little flavor)

 

0roo0roo

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broccoli = pesticides = omg cancer
homegrown vegetables = air particulates = omg cancer
apples = pesticides = omg cancer

dont forget organic = ecoli and other nastiness
 

Amused

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Your poll missed the point entirely.

It's not that he did, or didn't eat at McDonald's everyday. It's that he force fed himself on a consistant basis past the point of being full, to the point of feeling physically ill. He ate when he wasn't hungry. He forced homself to consume 3-5 times his normal calorie intake.

It's the same thing farmers do with geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. NO ONE, unless they have an eating disorder, eats like that.

You could get the same effects he got with ANY FOOD. Even your mother's cooking. It's not the TYPE of food he ate, it's HOW he ate it on a consistant basis.

Hell, farmers get the same effect with geese using GRAIN. So we see that the same effect can be had no matter what food you do it with.
 

0roo0roo

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cept the ducks atleast don't feel sick since they are naturally capable of gorging themselvse so they can build up stores for migration and such.
 

EyeMWing

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I have no qualms about eating McD's whenever I'm hungry and happen to pass by one. Never have, never will.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
cept the ducks atleast don't feel sick since they are naturally capable of gorging themselvse so they can build up stores for migration and such.

After force feeding the ducks for Foie gras, if not killed for food, they would die due to the extreme damage caused by the force feeding.

This is why animal rights activists are up in arms over the treatment of geese used for Foie Gras.

Foie gras, which is French for "fatty liver," is made from the grotesquely enlarged livers of male ducks and geese. Birds have up to 2 pounds of food per day pumped into their stomachs through long metal pipes that are shoved down their throats. The cruel ordeal often causes severe injuries that make it painful or even impossible for birds to drink. Those who survive the feedings suffer from a painful illness that causes their livers to swell to eight to 10 times their normal size. Many birds become too sick to walk and are reduced to pushing themselves across their cages with their wings. When the birds are slaughtered, their livers are sold for foie gras.

Anywho, the point is that force feeding causes damage to the liver and every other "symptom" Spurlock supposedly suffered in Supersize Me. His symptoms were NOT indicative of a diet consisting of only McDonald's food. He would have suffered the same effects no matter what food he ate if he ate it in the same way.
 

Powermoloch

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That movie is freakin' funny. But i'm still chompin on my mc nuggets. nonetheless, i seldom eat burgers, when I got the chance :D
 

Lorn

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My chicken nuggets are made up of hundreds of different chicken parts? SWEET!
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: spacejamz

A co-worker of mine was talking about this movie and swore up and down they would never eat at Mcdonald's again...

kinda makes me laugh about the reasoning skills of some people when they can't equate that stuffing your face there 3 times a day everyday for month is not what 99.9999999% of this country does (this means eating nothing but mcdonalds for one month, not eating there 75% or 80% of the time)...

Pretty certain that if you only eat there once or twice a week and exercise somewhat, the results would be totally different (but who would watch a boring real-life movie like that???)
I know a lot of guys who eat fast food 3 times a day.

In the movie he almost had liver failure after eating McDonalds 3 times a day for a month - thats like drinking a hell of a lot of alcohol, I.E. blacking out almost every day.

There are gonna be a lot of people saying hes a flaming liberal and dismissing the entire movie at that but I really don't think it has anything to do with that. Hes just talking about good eating habits and hes doing a lot of people a favor by pointing out what American fast food can do to you.

 

Powermoloch

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: spacejamz

A co-worker of mine was talking about this movie and swore up and down they would never eat at Mcdonald's again...

kinda makes me laugh about the reasoning skills of some people when they can't equate that stuffing your face there 3 times a day everyday for month is not what 99.9999999% of this country does (this means eating nothing but mcdonalds for one month, not eating there 75% or 80% of the time)...

Pretty certain that if you only eat there once or twice a week and exercise somewhat, the results would be totally different (but who would watch a boring real-life movie like that???)
I know a lot of guys who eat fast food 3 times a day.

In the movie he almost had liver failure after eating McDonalds 3 times a day for a month - thats like drinking a hell of a lot of alcohol, I.E. blacking out almost every day.

There are gonna be a lot of people saying hes a flaming liberal and dismissing the entire movie at that but I really don't think it has anything to do with that. Hes just talking about good eating habits and hes doing a lot of people a favor by pointing out what American fast food can do to you.

thoughts exactly, i need to shake your hand

 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You forgot the "I refuse to watch any of the propagandist crap that fat bloated gas bag produces" option.

:confused:

Michael Moore didn't make this movie.
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You forgot the "I refuse to watch any of the propagandist crap that fat bloated gas bag produces" option.

Obviously neither saw the movie nor knows anything about it. Early in the movie the maker goes through a medical checkup that showed he was in really good shape with minimal body fat (I forget the exact percentage).

My take on this movie-more interesting and more informative than I thought it would be, but I wish it didn't focus exclusively on McDonalds. McDonalds seems to be making a real effort to clean up its act, but Burger King is now taking them to the cleaners with their supersize type meals. The statistics on the extremely low amount of exercise the ordinary American gets was truely eye-opening.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: spacejamz

A co-worker of mine was talking about this movie and swore up and down they would never eat at Mcdonald's again...

kinda makes me laugh about the reasoning skills of some people when they can't equate that stuffing your face there 3 times a day everyday for month is not what 99.9999999% of this country does (this means eating nothing but mcdonalds for one month, not eating there 75% or 80% of the time)...

Pretty certain that if you only eat there once or twice a week and exercise somewhat, the results would be totally different (but who would watch a boring real-life movie like that???)
I know a lot of guys who eat fast food 3 times a day.

In the movie he almost had liver failure after eating McDonalds 3 times a day for a month - thats like drinking a hell of a lot of alcohol, I.E. blacking out almost every day.

There are gonna be a lot of people saying hes a flaming liberal and dismissing the entire movie at that but I really don't think it has anything to do with that. Hes just talking about good eating habits and hes doing a lot of people a favor by pointing out what American fast food can do to you.

Once again you miss the point entirely. As Amused has said (many, many times I might add), this would happen to him even if he was forcefully eating that "all-natural organic" crap his bitch vegan girlfriend eats.
 

xospec1alk

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your poll doesn't allow for a gray area. its really unhealthy to eat there, but i still would. i would have to agree somewhat with the results though, although i felt he was over acting a lot of the time.

btw, i saw morgan spurlock on the streets one day in nyc
 

Legend

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As Amused has said (many, many times I might add), this would happen to him even if he was forcefully eating that "all-natural organic" crap his bitch vegan girlfriend eats.

There's no way a balanced organic food diet would result in increasing LDL, decreasing HDL, weight gain, and just feeling terrible. Quite the opposite actually. He could stuff himself with vegetables, but he's not going to gain weight from it.

"organic"? What do you have against organic food? Oh noes, someone wants to eat something not soaked in pesticides/herbicides!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Legend
As Amused has said (many, many times I might add), this would happen to him even if he was forcefully eating that "all-natural organic" crap his bitch vegan girlfriend eats.

There's no way a balanced organic food diet would result in increasing LDL, decreasing HDL, weight gain, and just feeling terrible. Quite the opposite actually. He could stuff himself with vegetables, but he's not going to gain weight from it.

"organic"? What do you have against organic food? Oh noes, someone wants to eat something not soaked in pesticides/herbicides!

Bullsh!t.

Force feeding ANY food 3-5 times your normal calorie intake will cause EVERY single symptom he had. As I said before, they do it to geese with (whole) grains to produce an enlarged, fatty liver for Foie Gras.

The man ate past the point of feeling full on a consistent basis. He ate to the point of feeling physically ill on a consistent basis. He constantly gorged himself. NO ONE does this unless they have an eating disorder. Even the super obese with increased, abnormal appetites only eat until stuffed. They don't continue eating past the point of feeling physically ill.

As for "organic" foods, it's a scam that makes you pay twice for your foods. There is NO valid study that show eaters of organic foods live longer or are healthier than people who eat comparable standard food diets.

"Let me be clear about one other thing. The organic label is a marketing tool. It is not a statement about food safety. Nor is ?organic? a value judgment about nutrition or quality,? -- Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman in announcing the new rules.

We owe our long lives and plentiful foods to modern farming practices. Were all foods to be produced "organically" we would have mass starvation all over the world. It's an unnecessary and extremely inefficient way to grow foods.

Organic foods are a luxury item and symptom of a society that is so safe, people begin forming irrational fears over the very basic things that has made it so safe and comfortable.
 

bigredguy

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i wan't an option that says it was a biased study because they took a guy who had a good work out routine and ate almost a vegan diet and then pulled a 180. I think i could have done what he did with a much less drastic change.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Your poll missed the point entirely.

It's not that he did, or didn't eat at McDonald's everyday. It's that he force fed himself on a consistant basis past the point of being full, to the point of feeling physically ill. He ate when he wasn't hungry. He forced homself to consume 3-5 times his normal calorie intake.

It's the same thing farmers do with geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. NO ONE, unless they have an eating disorder, eats like that.

You could get the same effects he got with ANY FOOD. Even your mother's cooking. It's not the TYPE of food he ate, it's HOW he ate it on a consistant basis.

Hell, farmers get the same effect with geese using GRAIN. So we see that the same effect can be had no matter what food you do it with.

well you are making quite a lot of sense there...but people will still fail to understand :p
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Legend
As Amused has said (many, many times I might add), this would happen to him even if he was forcefully eating that "all-natural organic" crap his bitch vegan girlfriend eats.

There's no way a balanced organic food diet would result in increasing LDL, decreasing HDL, weight gain, and just feeling terrible. Quite the opposite actually. He could stuff himself with vegetables, but he's not going to gain weight from it.

"organic"? What do you have against organic food? Oh noes, someone wants to eat something not soaked in pesticides/herbicides!

Bullsh!t.

Force feeding ANY food 3-5 times your normal calorie intake will cause EVERY single symptom he had. As I said before, they do it to geese with (whole) grains to produce an enlarged, fatty liver for Foie Gras.

The man ate past the point of feeling full on a consistent basis. He ate to the point of feeling physically ill on a consistent basis. He constantly gorged himself. NO ONE does this unless they have an eating disorder. Even the super obese with increased, abnormal appetites only eat until stuffed. They don't continue eating past the point of feeling physically ill.

As for "organic" foods, it's a scam that makes you pay twice for your foods. There is NO valid study that show eaters of organic foods live longer or are healthier than people who eat comparable standard food diets.

"Let me be clear about one other thing. The organic label is a marketing tool. It is not a statement about food safety. Nor is ?organic? a value judgment about nutrition or quality,? -- Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman in announcing the new rules.

We owe our long lives and plentiful foods to modern farming practices. Were all foods to be produced "organically" we would have mass starvation all over the world. It's an unnecessary and extremely inefficient way to grow foods.

Organic foods are a luxury item and symptom of a society that is so safe, people begin forming irrational fears over the very basic things that has made it so safe and comfortable.

did you even watch the movie?

and it is just about impossible to stuff yourself with "grains" so you get 3-5x the usual caloric intake. :p
:roll:

and you don't know anything about 'organic'.
:thumbsdown:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Legend
As Amused has said (many, many times I might add), this would happen to him even if he was forcefully eating that "all-natural organic" crap his bitch vegan girlfriend eats.

There's no way a balanced organic food diet would result in increasing LDL, decreasing HDL, weight gain, and just feeling terrible. Quite the opposite actually. He could stuff himself with vegetables, but he's not going to gain weight from it.

"organic"? What do you have against organic food? Oh noes, someone wants to eat something not soaked in pesticides/herbicides!

Bullsh!t.

Force feeding ANY food 3-5 times your normal calorie intake will cause EVERY single symptom he had. As I said before, they do it to geese with (whole) grains to produce an enlarged, fatty liver for Foie Gras.

The man ate past the point of feeling full on a consistent basis. He ate to the point of feeling physically ill on a consistent basis. He constantly gorged himself. NO ONE does this unless they have an eating disorder. Even the super obese with increased, abnormal appetites only eat until stuffed. They don't continue eating past the point of feeling physically ill.

As for "organic" foods, it's a scam that makes you pay twice for your foods. There is NO valid study that show eaters of organic foods live longer or are healthier than people who eat comparable standard food diets.

"Let me be clear about one other thing. The organic label is a marketing tool. It is not a statement about food safety. Nor is ?organic? a value judgment about nutrition or quality,? -- Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman in announcing the new rules.

We owe our long lives and plentiful foods to modern farming practices. Were all foods to be produced "organically" we would have mass starvation all over the world. It's an unnecessary and extremely inefficient way to grow foods.

Organic foods are a luxury item and symptom of a society that is so safe, people begin forming irrational fears over the very basic things that has made it so safe and comfortable.

did you even watch the movie?

and it is just about impossible to stuff yourself with "grains" so you get 3-5x the usual caloric intake. :p
:roll:

and you don't know anything about 'organic'.
:thumbsdown:

Yes, I watched the movie. If you look past the propaganda, you can see exactly what I'm talking about. Hell, he even admits to doing this IN the movie. But he knows most people wont understand the significance of gorging vs over eating.

Yes, it is possible to eat 3-5 times your normal calorie intake with ANY food. Force feeding is force feeding. It produces a UNIQUE set of symptoms. All of which match his exactly.

And yes, I know what "organic" foods are. They are a marketing scam costing buyers 50-100% more for their foods, and an EXTREMELY inefficient way to grow foods with NO, NONE, NADA proven health benefits.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Amused

And yes, I know what "organic" foods are. They are a marketing scam costing buyers 50-100% more for their foods, and an EXTREMELY inefficient way to grow foods with NO, NONE, NADA proven health benefits.
Whoa. A marketing scam?

A MARKETING scam? WTF?

I'd expect more from you.

You don't know anything about organic gardening. Inefficient? How on Earth do you figure? If you mean on an energy spent producing the crop basis, you are dead wrong.

As for the "proven health benefits" .... It does not take a rocket scientist to tell you that pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers in any quantity are going to be worse for you than not being exposed to them in the first place. That's just plain common sense.

You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to put people down because they care about their bodies.