Supermarket battle in Boston

[CitizenKain]

I live in boston and this shit pisses me off. A bunch of high school dropouts expecting a company to act as their personal protector.

No company is going to give them profit sharing forever, should have saved that $$$ when they had it good.

Not everyone can be a spoiled child like you I guess.

 

[Thebobo]

I live in boston and this shit pisses me off. A bunch of high school dropouts expecting a company to act as their personal protector.

No company is going to give them profit sharing forever, should have saved that $$$ when they had it good.

I'm guessing you're a republican.

 

[CitizenKain]

These proles should be lucky they are even paid!

 

[ch33zw1z]

I live in boston and this shit pisses me off. A bunch of high school dropouts expecting a company to act as their personal protector.

No company is going to give them profit sharing forever, should have saved that $$$ when they had it good.

Indeed. We should never have to live in a world where an employer would care about their employees and in turn be steadily profitable. The horror.

 

[nehalem256]

Indeed. We should never have to live in a world where an employer would care about their employees and in turn be steadily profitable. The horror.

That is the world liberals demand to live in.

Just look at the threads about Hobby Lobby. Where all the liberals claim that corporations only objective should be to maximize profits. And the idea the corporations might have actual values is counter-revolutionary.

 

[Thebobo]

That is the world liberals demand to live in.

Just look at the threads about Hobby Lobby. Where all the liberals claim that corporations only objective should be to maximize profits. And the idea the corporations might have actual values is counter-revolutionary.

This has nothing to do with Hobby Lobby.

Whats wrong with that system they had?

Company was making money (maybe not enough for the greedy ones)
Employees were happy
Customers where happy

How can you complain?

 

[ch33zw1z]

That is the world liberals demand to live in.

Just look at the threads about Hobby Lobby. Where all the liberals claim that corporations only objective should be to maximize profits. And the idea the corporations might have actual values is counter-revolutionary.

Keep eating that two party system goodness, it's got a bitter aftertaste however.

 

[dmcowen674]

I live in boston and this shit pisses me off. A bunch of high school dropouts expecting a company to act as their personal protector.

No company is going to give them profit sharing forever, should have saved that $$$ when they had it good.

What do you do for income?

Let me guess, a silver spooner and never have to work a second in your life.

 

[nehalem256]

This has nothing to do with Hobby Lobby.

Whats wrong with that system they had?

Company was making money (maybe not enough for the greedy ones)
Employees were happy
Customers where happy

How can you complain?

That is the problem. The only duty of a corporation, according to liberals, is to maximize profits.

By paying their employees too much they were failing to do this.

And it has everything to do with Hobby Lobby. Liberals don't want corporations to have ethics. They exist only to further shareholder value.

 

[theeedude]

That is the problem. The only duty of a corporation, according to liberals, is to maximize profits.

Liberals like this guy here:
http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-soc-resp-business.html
?

By paying their employees too much they were failing to do this.

And it has everything to do with Hobby Lobby. Liberals don't want corporations to have ethics. They exist only to further shareholder value.

Corporatists always have an excuse lined up or someone else to blame for their greed.
But it's not selling anymore. Corporations are not people, my friend.

 

[theeedude]

This has nothing to do with Hobby Lobby.

Whats wrong with that system they had?

Company was making money (maybe not enough for the greedy ones)
Employees were happy
Customers where happy

How can you complain?

Corporatists see happy employees as a suboptimal condition. They want employees who are paid just enough to bother showing up to work, and not a penny more. If they are showing up to work and actually happy about it, they are considered overpaid.
That's why corporatists rail against social welfare programs, it means people are less desperate, and they have to pay more for people to want to work.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That is the problem. The only duty of a corporation, according to liberals, is to maximize profits.

By paying their employees too much they were failing to do this.

And it has everything to do with Hobby Lobby. Liberals don't want corporations to have ethics. They exist only to further shareholder value.

interesting gymnastics

 

[ch33zw1z]

interesting gymnastics

I fore a hammy pull if it keeps going.

 

[nehalem256]

Liberals like this guy here:
http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-soc-resp-business.html
?


Corporatists always have an excuse lined up or someone else to blame for their greed.
But it's not selling anymore. Corporations are not people, my friend.

Which I believe was the exact reasoning used to argue that corporations exist only to maximize shareholder value, not to have ethics.

Thanks for proving my point!

interesting gymnastics

Its not really gymnastics at all. Go look at the Hobby Lobby threads. Where all the liberals think the idea of corporations having ethics is preposterous. And that their only purpose should be to maximize shareholder value.

Obviously overpaying employees is failing to do this.

If there are any gymnastics to be found it isn't be me.

 

[cyclohexane]

Indeed. We should never have to live in a world where an employer would care about their employees and in turn be steadily profitable. The horror.

No other super market offered the benefits that Market Basket had. The employees were not owners of the company. They had 30 years of good easy living, but when it was time to change (entirely within the rights of the management), these workers acted like it's the fuckin Russian revolution. I was not aware that we live a communist society.

 

[cyclohexane]

Indeed. We should never have to live in a world where an employer would care about their employees and in turn be steadily profitable. The horror.

What do you do for income?

Let me guess, a silver spooner and never have to work a second in your life.

Went to school for 20+ years, got my PhD, and work as an immunologist.
Did that fit your stereotype?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Which I believe was the exact reasoning used to argue that corporations exist only to maximize shareholder value, not to have ethics.

Thanks for proving my point!



Its not really gymnastics at all. Go look at the Hobby Lobby threads. Where all the liberals think the idea of corporations having ethics is preposterous. And that their only purpose should be to maximize shareholder value.

Obviously overpaying employees is failing to do this.

If there are any gymnastics to be found it isn't be me.

HL threads were about faith/religion that's were I see gymnastics. We can agree to disagree.

 

[trenchfoot]

Went to school for 20+ years, got my PhD, and work as an immunologist.
Did that fit your stereotype?

So then, your parents who financed your education are the silver spooners in the family? jus' kidding.

 

[CitizenKain]

Went to school for 20+ years, got my PhD, and work as an immunologist.
Did that fit your stereotype?

If you are an immunologist, I'm pretty worried for this country, apparently they let in anyone.

If you suddenly made 1/2 the money you do now, and couldn't live off mommy and daddy, would you complain, or just bend farther over and take it?

 

[cyclohexane]

If you are an immunologist, I'm pretty worried for this country, apparently they let in anyone.

If you suddenly made 1/2 the money you do now, and couldn't live off mommy and daddy, would you complain, or just bend farther over and take it?

Sorry, don't live off mommy and daddy. Alway pay out the ass come tax time.
Even if I worked one of these grocery jobs - I wouldn't complain. Complaining is for losers, which some of these guys definitely are. Their excuse for the protests are laughable.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No other super market offered the benefits that Market Basket had. The employees were not owners of the company. They had 30 years of good easy living, but when it was time to change (entirely within the rights of the management), these workers acted like it's the fuckin Russian revolution. I was not aware that we live a communist society.

We don't, I'm not sure how you even make the correlation to a communist society.

The employees were well taken care of in comparison, does that make it right to change it? Ask the employees, obviously their opinion differs from yours.

Sure, it was management's right to change it. Just because they can, doesn't mean they should, looks like they're finding it out the hard way. Value your employees, or don't be surprised when they don't give a shit. You get what you pay for.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Went to school for 20+ years, got my PhD, and work as an immunologist.
Did that fit your stereotype?

I didn't stereotype you, and I personally don't care what you do for a living. Your attitude is not flattering, however.

 

[Zorba]

No other super market offered the benefits that Market Basket had. The employees were not owners of the company. They had 30 years of good easy living, but when it was time to change (entirely within the rights of the management), these workers acted like it's the fuckin Russian revolution. I was not aware that we live a communist society.

Amazing how the business doesn't work without the employees. So why shouldn't the employees share in the success? If it is executives that make a company profitable, thus justifying the excessive compensation, why isn't the company making money hand over fist with one of their biggest costs (employees) out of the way?

 

[cyclohexane]

Amazing how the business doesn't work without the employees. So why shouldn't the employees share in the success? If it is executives that make a company profitable, thus justifying the excessive compensation, why isn't the company making money hand over fist with one of their biggest costs (employees) out of the way?

Fair enough. Businesses should treat their workers with respect. However, this particular case is going to end with management firing all their protesting workers, and hiring new ones. Their lame excuse of "bring back our old CEO because he's a cool dude" protests will accomplish nothing, only lost time/wages for the workers and inconvenience for their customers.

 

[Dulanic]

Fair enough. Businesses should treat their workers with respect. However, this particular case is going to end with management firing all their protesting workers, and hiring new ones. Their lame excuse of "bring back our old CEO because he's a cool dude" protests will accomplish nothing, only lost time/wages for the workers and inconvenience for their customers.

Most of their customers support them because they have been treated well by these employees. When I lived in MA I shopped there exclusively for groceries due to that and fair pricing.