SUPER HOT !!!! "xp 2100+" xp1600+ for $51 from newegg. It's crazy !!!!!!!

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DaveF

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Davidos,

What do you need a 400 board for? Won't a 333 do the trick with out much hassle? I guess you're shooting for 200 X 10.5 with the xp1600+?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Refresh
Mail just arrived today with my package...it's a AROIA? How well does this one OC? Any information is appreciated.

People are getting similar overclocks with the ARIOA stepping as the AGOIA stepping, check out overclockers database for some info:
http://overclockers.cssftware.com/cpudb/index.cfm
It lists the overclocks with the steppigns next to it, volt, cooler, etc.
 

davidos

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Yeah, I'll probably get the Epox KT333 board or the MSI basic KT333.

I keep getting IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL errors with my Shuttle AK31 v3.1. Is that a motherboard thing or a Windows XP issue? and are there any solutions?

Also, will the GC68 with a faster fan really do the trick to overclock this AGOIA beast?
 

corinthos

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Since there has been mention of the SVC GC-68 HSF here, and I happen to be looking for an effective, quiet, and cheap HSF, can you guys tell me if it's OK to use this HSF with my Duron 700 OC'd to perhaps 900? It appears some may be overclocking their XP 1600+ using this HSF, but I don't know if they generate less heat OC'd than Duron? Any info would be helpful. Thanks!
 

Banana

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Originally posted by: corinthos
Since there has been mention of the SVC GC-68 HSF here, and I happen to be looking for an effective, quiet, and cheap HSF, can you guys tell me if it's OK to use this HSF with my Duron 700 OC'd to perhaps 900? It appears some may be overclocking their XP 1600+ using this HSF, but I don't know if they generate less heat OC'd than Duron?
I have a Duron 700 OC'd to 933 (7*133) using the GC68 with a Panaflo. The temp while I play Unreal goes as high as 48C. I only use one front bezel case fan with a "passive" blowhole (just a hole over the CPU, no fan). MSI KT133A mobo.
BTW: My NewEgg XP1600+ should arrive before the weekend. Woohoo!
1YP
 

ElectricLegs

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I recieved 2 of the AGOIA cpu's so it's just a matter of what tray you happen to get them out of. Thay's all good! That $6 SVC GC-68 HSF is a fine piece so grab a few. The bottom is almost mirror smooth. Try a faster fan if you need better cooling.

K7S5a? Grab the bios from here ECS forum and you'll have 138,150,166 in the bios. You can also do a few other using software.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: davidos
Yeah, I'll probably get the Epox KT333 board or the MSI basic KT333.

I keep getting IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL errors with my Shuttle AK31 v3.1. Is that a motherboard thing or a Windows XP issue? and are there any solutions?

Also, will the GC68 with a faster fan really do the trick to overclock this AGOIA beast?

im pretty sure thats an xp thing, because i switched back over to 2k, and have never gotten those since (i avged 2-3 a day on xp)
 

davidos

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Thanks BigJ -- good to know that I don't have to get rid of my AK31.


"Also, will the GC68 with a faster fan really do the trick to overclock this AGOIA beast?"

Anyone know the answer to this? I was thinking of getting the GC68 with the Y.S. Tech adjustable fan. Can I overclock with this setup?
 

garyboz

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Davidos, here is the link from a previous post in the thread Link

Also, I'm sad to say that I haven't recieved any orders for the GC68 for my low low price of $39.95. Apparently people prefer to pay $6 for it! Who'd have thought that? Remember people if you pay $6 for a GC68 then it doesn't perform as well as if you've spent $39.95 on it. That is fact.

However, I realize that perhaps not everyone can afford my $39.95 GC68. Here is a link using google's cache feature.

Goggle cache

There you can go back in time to a previous version of svc's website and actually order the GC68 from them for only $17.98! Now it won't perform as well as if you bought it from me for $39.95 but it will perform better than if you buy it for only $6.
 

Banana

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Great NewEgg service as usual. Nicely delivered in HUGE FedEx box--LOL.

BUT I received a AROIA CPU. Is this a deal killer? Is SteveJST right after all?

Nevertheless, am happy, and to be honest, I never thought DaHan's original post would generate so much feeback. Nice discussion.

1YP

 

stevejst

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I was trying to be absent from this dreamland but since you mentioned me, hey why not to respond.

Here is a deal for AGOGA XP 1900

newegg

Then check what is needed to get 1.8 Ghz performance here:

Exhardware


That can give you some idea of how much science fiction is possible in this AGOIA deal.
 

Banana

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Originally posted by: stevejst
I was trying to be absent from this dreamland
We're an addictive substance.

Originally posted by: stevejst
Here is a deal for AGOGA XP 1900

newegg
I can't find a good deal. Only XP AGOGA I saw was $130! I believe the consensus is if you don't wanna OC, then XP1800 has best price/perf ratio.

1YP
 

garyboz

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stevejst I think you have finally given us the evidence that you need to prove us all wrong. According to you we need to goto Exhardware to see what is needed to get 1.8 Ghz performance.

Your Exhardware link shows the following:
In order to get a 1900+ to go to 2200+ speeds you need:

an OCZ Goliath heatsink
AGOGA Stepping
Arctic Silver 3
a 0.1 volt voltage increase

2200+ is three levels above 1900+ (1900-2000-2100-2200)
an OCZ Goliath is $28 and has a thermal resistance of 0.67 according to Dan's Data (lower is better)
Some sort of "Thermal Goo" - (Technical term there) should always be used most heatsinks come with some sort for free. There is a debate about how effective Arctic Silver vs generic paste is but I'm not going to get into that here.
A 0.1 volt voltage increase is free.

Therefore according to your logic to get a 1600+ to get to 1900+ (1600-1700-1800-1900) you should need
an OCZ Goliath heatsink
AGOGA Stepping - Most seem to be getting AGOGA or AGOIA both of which are very good.
Arctic Silver 3
a 0.1 volt voltage increase
and a little luck. (I'll throw that in there for you.)

Now here's the interesting part. It turns out that the Thermalright AX-7 has a thermal resistance of 0.54. That means it is a better cooler than the OCZ Goliath. Now I know you can guess what's coming next. Since the AX-7 compares directly with the GC68 that means that the GC68 ($6 cooler with a Delta fan on it) beats the pants off of the $28 Goliath that you claim is what's necessary to overclock an Athlon.

So here's the big expense you should incur to overclock your Athlon:
GC68 and high powered fan - about $10
AGOGA or AGOIA stepping - most seem to be getting these, it's the luck of the draw
Arctic Silver 3 - $6 if you don't already have some or free if you're willing to try generic paste
0.1 volt voltage increase - FREE
Total MAX cost $16

I'm pretty sure that if there was someone who wasn't convinced that you know what you're talking about you've finally put them in there place.
 

RobsTV

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If max speed for XP1900+ was 1800MHz, and max speed of XP1600+ was 1740MHz,
let's see, which would be faster.

XP1900+ ships at 133x12, or 1600MHz.
XP1600+ ships at 133x10.5 or 1400MHz.

XP1900+ at 1800MHz (XP2200+ speeds) requires 150x12
XP1600+ at 1730MHz (XP2100+ speeds) requires 166x10.5 (proven it can run that with stock AMD 1GHz T-bird hsf, see above)

Of course it's easy to see that the XP1600+ will run much faster due to it's higher FSB.
If you are lucky enough to have good cards, memory and motherboard, then you can probably hit above 170MHz-180MHz. (see links)

Don't believe all the myths.
Many brands of PC2100 DDR memory have no problems easily hitting 166MHz, but with PC2700 priced only
a couple dollars more, it would be foolish to "buy" PC2100. Also most NIC's, video, soundcards, etc, have no
problems running in a system with fsb at or above 166MHz. (see motherboard links)

I think this thread speaks for itself.
Lot's of comments. I am sure lot's of people are taking advantage of this deal.
With that in mind, look at how many people that jumped on this deal that are complaining!
NONE! I have not seen one post yet from someone that got AGIOA or AROIA and it would
not run at 166MHz FSB. I have seen some complaining in AMD forums that they can only
hit about 173MHz, but as proven from this thread, we ARE getting XP2100+ speeds out of these!!!!!

As a disclaimer, I am sure "someone" will get one of these, and not be able to overclock it high,
but that is the exception and not the norm. Please pipe in if you get one that you can't overclock like this!
 

phillerup

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Just got my 1600+ and its a AGOIA!
I also bought the motherboard Gigabyte GA-7VRXP and its a rev 1.1, what should I be cautious of? I hear the 1.1 board has some issues?
 

mmx

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I just bought the xp 1600 and i think its the 2100 xp.

However i have:

kk266 iwill latest bios
xp 1600 athlon
3 dimms of 256mb cas-2 - 768mb pc-133
good heatsink.


how do i change the multiplier? i can't get over 140-8 in the FSB.
 

ikarus1

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I got a AGOIA from newegg on Monday for $66....it rox. I also bought a refurb ABIT KR7A-RAID 133 for $60.....
it hit 10.5x166 w/ .1 volt increase but my HSF is too small so I will get a GC-68 from SVC and see wazzup
 

DaveF

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My parts are finally coming together, but I'm waiting on my mobo to arrive. I went with Epox 8K3A for $77.50 shipped from z-buy (I've personally never had any problems with them). Decided to skip the 'plus' version of the board since I have a sblive5.1 sound card and am not ready for the expense of adding another 80 GB hard drive for the RAID functions. Just wish I could have gotten one of these refurbed from newegg, I guess. Of course, it was a doa refrubed 1.2 tbird from newegg that got me into this upgrade in the first place (why buy a 1.2 for $62 when I could have a 1600+ for $67!).

My only real concerns (besides this AGOIA puppy not overclocking well) is my hs/f and ddr. I'm going to try using the Thermaltake VolcanoII, ordered with the dead 1.2 (only rated to 1.5), with some ASIII. Hopefully all the ASIII hype is valid and I can keep it within a tolerable temp. Other wise I'll be picking up one of those $6 jobbies.

I only have 128 MB Samsung PC2100, which won't cut it in the long run, but will let me see if everything works initially. I've got plenty of PC133 I picked up last year with all the rebate deals (never paid over $20 for 256). Maybe I can sell off some for this upgrade.

So, Steve is right;) My system is getting more expensive by the second! Now at $67 + 77.50 (+ 6.00?) + 30.00 (for the ram?) = $180.50 max. That's assuming nothing else comes up!

 

stevejst

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OK, whatever.
I shall buy this GC68 for $6, well how bad it can be? I have couple of Durons I can sacrifice.
I just don't know why is SVC advising to use it up to XP 1800, when it is so marvelous..
Note also that I didn't say you cannot overclock AGOIA 1600, I only said it will cost you. And to reach 1900 performance is a feat XP 1800 can make on 138-141 Mhz bus. That is very possible with no investement of any kind on just about any system that allows bus increase.
Once again the OC databases/forums are not to be believed without a grain of salt. What a heck, a cup of salt.

Dave, at some point you'll find out that you need a better power supply in particular when you start adding voltage to CPU and adding memory sticks. That is another $50 minimum.