I've never been one to pass up a good debate, even (especially?) when I figure the answer is obvious up front. In a sense, it's kinda like why women go for the assholes. The "nice guys" are so easy to win over that they're no fun, so they go for the hopeless cases. I also often actually "do my own research" for myself... and sometimes I'm surprised by what I find.
So let's take a look at this one. The question is... is TridenT confident? First we need a definition. I'll use the one from the OP:
2. belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.
There are four parts to this definition... "belief in oneself", "self-confidence", "self-reliance", and "assurance". I'll address each of them (although out of order).
"self-confidence" can be eliminated for being a circular reference.
TridenT also clearly isn't leaning on "self-reliance" as applying to him, because even he would (hopefully) recognize that somebody living at home, with no job, and going to school on government money isn't "self reliant".
The other two have had some debate from TridenT though. The three points that he makes are that 1. he does what he wants, 2. he doesn't settle for ugly/fat girls, and 3. he isn't afraid to approach beautiful women.
For the first, that he does want he wants and everyone else can go fuck themselves, there's not much that can be said to prove it's not true. While that attitude is just as prevalent when somebody feels isolated from everyone else (and therefore isn't influenced by social pressure), it's impossible to say for sure, from over the internet, if it's isolation or confidence in this case. Given the doubt, I'll give the point to confident.
The second argument is that he doesn't go after ugly/fat girls. This is purely a matter of pride, which even Trident himself admits in post 37:
If it's acceptable, then why even worry about it? Face it, you're not going to bang a hottie. Not unless you've got a shit ton of money.
So, pick one.
1.) Accept that you'll be life-long virgin because you're too prideful.
2.) Get rich.
I've been banking on number 2 for a while. Number 1 is realistic and I've already accepted that's the case.
but like I said guys... I'm overconfident. I'm really cocky, you know? Can't help it. I'm so sure of myself.
Now this one
can be analyzed over the internet. There's basically two sources of pride. One is to set a high standard for yourself based on past experiences, where anything less that what you've accomplished in the past doesn't seem good enough. This kind of pride does indeed signify confidence.
The second type of pride is when somebody hasn't accomplished anything, and settling for lesser accomplishments only serves to highlight that they haven't accomplished anything. It reinforces the feelings of being a failure. This kind of pride signifies a complete lack of confidence. Given that TridenT doesn't have any success with women to lean on, this has got to be the case. So it's 1 point for "confident" and 1 point for "not confident".
Both of those speak somewhat to "belief in oneself" and "assurance", but not as much as the next one.
TridenT's third argument that he is confident is that he approaches beautiful women. There's just one problem here. From the OP:
I try to get a feel if they like me or not (99.99% hate me because I am ugly, and they allllllll say that).
Confidence is about looking at something you want (e.g. a woman) and having the "belief in oneself" and "assurance" to say you'll it... even if it's against the odds. You go in to these situations believing you'll fail. In fact, going in to a situation where you feel you have 99.99% certainty you know how it will end up doesn't take any balls at all. You already have a belief that you know the outcome, so there's absolutely no risk.
So that leaves us with one point for "confident" (assuming you believe the "I don't care what anyone thinks" attitude is from confidence rather than isolation) and two points for "not confident".
Hmmm... lets go to the quotes and see if there's anything else from this thread that suggests a lack of confidence:
You've seen my face. You can't change that ugly.
Unless this is what you're suggesting....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3142322/Acid-attack-girl-burned-herself.html
Then yes, very lazy I am.
I doubt it.
If I managed to get an attractive girl into bed with me, she's there for the night. At that point she'll be like, "LOL, LIKE IT MATTERS... I MEAN, I ALREADY LIKE GOT TO THIS POINT WITH YOU. IT CAN'T GET ANY MORE PATHETIC"
Because I refuse to have sex with really ugly women? I can understand the virgin adjective for that then... but pathetic and lazy, no... if anything I would be pathetic and lazy for having with with ugly women. I am outrageously overactive considering my stature and activity levels when it comes to approaching attractive ladies.
I guess that's acceptable to me.
:ninja:
I'm not looking for support because there is no reason for support. I do it just to see if I can prove things to people. It happens to work most of the time.
The people here are like the people in real life that won't say you're fucking hideous, but just say, "you're not my type." They use similar dialects and try to not seem like assholes, but in reality they're being the biggest asshole they can be because they still try to instill some kind of fleeting hope that will never see fruition in reality.
Idk if bitter is the right word. Just unsatisfied with the situation is probably right. It's within my human nature to want to be the best and to want it all. So to have very little leaves one unsatisfied and unhappy with those who can get much more.
This is how we work you know. It's completely normal. It's not normal to become complacent and not want anything which is what many of you suggest.
I'm not insecure about my looks. I realize what I am, where I stand, and why ladies don't find me attractive. It's because I am physically unattractive.
No shens.
But I thought all I needed was confidence?
You're digging a deep hole where you have to refute what you already have said! Face it. I'm ugly, and the fact is... unless I become not-ugly (not possible) then I won't get any from the ones I want to get some from. It's not a confidence issue because I am perfectly confident about who I am and what I can get with who I am.
I need proof that only and only confidence gets people laid with pretty women.
Now if the guy with the son who looks like me can prove his son looks like me and is just as hideous AND shows the tail he actually scores with AND it's official.... then maybe his son has a charming personality or a big wallet.
And this kid must have gone to a nice school because every school I went to I was picked on even though I never did anything to anyone. (Kept to myself usually) Mostly because I was short, thin, and a glutton for punishment.
You're a man.
If Mosh, and just about every other female ATOTer, (Cough, we're not even including all the girls I've met in real life) says I am ugly. I am ugly. Looks matter a lot to the girls I want.
...and that's just form this thread.
My conclusion:
NOT CONFIDENT.
Anyway, like a few of the other people in this thread, I'd actually be fascinated to meet you IRL. I'm originally from the Portland area and visit from time to time. I can even drive and spot you a couple bucks if needed. Shoot me a PM and I can let you know the next time I'll be in the area.