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BoomerD said:
Tridentboy haz no moneys
Tridentboy wants job
Tridentboy doesn't really want to work...just wants moneys
Tridentboy gets interview, blows off interviewer
Tridentboy gets call for interview with same company as above...gets job 😕

Everyone laughs at Tridentboy because of his self-importance and sense of self-entitlement

Lulz commence and continue.
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And in the end, TridenTBoy still wins. 😎😎
 
If you have issues with Java, then you have issues with programming. This is coming from an EE who absolutely despises software engineering. You do not start seeing the real big differences between Java and C until you get to object Oriented programming and if you prefer C to Java in that case, you have mental issues.
 
BoomerD said:
Tridentboy haz no moneys
Tridentboy wants job
Tridentboy doesn't really want to work...just wants moneys
Tridentboy gets interview, blows off interviewer
Tridentboy gets call for interview with same company as above...gets job 😕

Everyone laughs at Tridentboy because of his self-importance and sense of self-entitlement

Lulz commence and continue.
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Thank you sir :thumbsup:
 
Gibson486 said:
If you have issues with Java, then you have issues with programming. This is coming from an EE who absolutely despises software engineering. You do not start seeing the real big differences between Java and C until you get to object Oriented programming and if you prefer C to Java in that case, you have mental issues.
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Understanding everything about applets, networking, security, xml, and so on... That's a problem. And that's what I mean by knowing a language.
 
TridenT said:
Got the job. This guy literally asked me one or two questions and then was like, "Alright, let's just cut through the rest of this. Do you want a job at Ross?" I said yes and he was like, "Alright, done!"

And then went on to explain some things and we talked about some stuff. Pretty sweet. This guy is definitely way more awesome than the lady I had before. 😀
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Congrats! Now take advantage of the opportunity and socialize with people and learn people skills.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
Congrats! Now take advantage of the opportunity and socialize with people and learn people skills.
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:thumbsup:

On a side note, congrats to TridenT! 🙂

I don't expect to see a thread any time soon bitching about how you quit or were fired!!!

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TridenT said:
And in the end, TridenTBoy still wins. 😎😎
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We'll see...I'm sure we all HOPE you manage to keep the job...but time will tell.
Given your track record here, I don't think anyone would be willing to bet money on you, and most expect you to fail.

It's up to you to prove us wrong.
 
TridenT said:
Just got told that they did matter by at least one guy in this thread. Tell him they don't.
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Beats me. I've interviewed at just about every big software company (at least the major major ones). I don't know many of the details about programming (I have a EE background) and nobody seems to care.

What seems to matter is critical thinking and logic. Also, knowing how to program well, doesn't matter what language/library (I usually do coding interview questions in a made-up C/Java style language with convenient libraries for what I'm doing).
 
TridenT said:
Just got told that they did matter by at least one guy in this thread. Tell him they don't.
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It's pretty common for people to have to learn on the job, as the requirements of their position changes and they switch employers. It doesn't really matter how much you know as long as you have at least a basic background, what matters is how good you are at problem-solving (so critical thinking skills), working with other people, and willingness and ability to learn. Because really, a degree is only the start of your education (no matter how clichéd that sounds).
 
TridenT said:
Just got told that they did matter by at least one guy in this thread. Tell him they don't.
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No he didn't.

Ricemarine said:
The concepts you learn in 142/143 are important. If you don't feel you are confident to code in Java, then it implies that you didn't understand the concepts. Each language has their own philosophy, but many use very similar concepts.
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He said the concepts are important, which is the point of the course. Nowadays it is generally fashionable to do the introductory course in Java because it is an easy language. However, outside of that course I've only used Java once in the past ten years. But that hasn't been a hindrance because the concepts that you learn in addition to the basic language syntax are things like basic programming structure and algorithms which are applicable to most of the programming languages that you could choose to work in.
 
You don't need to know the job to get the job, you just need to know the concepts. A guy applying for a construction job will be expected to know enough about construction, but won't be expected to know all the policies and procedures of that particular company, nor how to operate every single piece of machinery, there's lot of stuff that can be learned on the job, especially job specific stuff.
 
Red Squirrel said:
You don't need to know the job to get the job, you just need to know the concepts. A guy applying for a construction job will be expected to know enough about construction, but won't be expected to know all the policies and procedures of that particular company, nor how to operate every single piece of machinery, there's lot of stuff that can be learned on the job, especially job specific stuff.
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I guess, but what qualifies as knowing the concepts? You guys have been so vague. People are saying, "knowing practically everything about this language or multiple languages" to "knowing nothing."
 
TridenT said:
I guess, but what qualifies as knowing the concepts? You guys have been so vague. People are saying, "knowing practically everything about this language or multiple languages" to "knowing nothing."
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Know enough to show that you have the basis to quickly learn what is needed. Be prepared to hear new concepts in the interview and apply them immediately.
 
No, that sounds like basic familiarity. Aptitude has nothing to do with it. Learning is hard work for most people, yet they seem to achieve it.
 
this is kind of off topic but i used to shop at Ross when i was in college but now i prefer Marshalls. not that i shop for clothes a lot but last time i went to Ross it seems their selections haven't been that great... maybe it just depends on the location.

Trident, i have some homework for you if you are up to it. talk to one of the managers to see how to sell stuff to them:

is there a minimum quantity or maybe that depends on the item category being sold (socks vs colognes)?

who are the major sellers to Ross? are they department stores? or specialized "buyers" who somehow get bulk stuff... and if specialized sellers, maybe you can find out how they "hunt" for their deals (i.e. do they look in newspapers, special newsletters, auctions, etc.).

you'll be working there so you might as well try to squeeze as much knowledge out of it as possible... think of it as a learning experience. then come back and educate me ;-)

thx!
 
I love my job. Im a glorified baby sitter. All I do all day is sit on Facebook or Netflix until a printer runs out of ink or paper and I replace it. And I just got a $2 raise and now im up to $14/hour.
 
Did orientation today. Call for first shift tomorrow. (I find out when it is) And then still more learning on the job, but I am getting paid now.
 
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