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TridenT said:
Not really... Go to a series of poor schools with mostly mediocre teachers and you'll find that's not true.
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If you work hard in shitty school, you'll still learn a lot. If you don't work hard in an awesome school you won't learn anything (you might pass and graduate though).

In college, 95% of what you learn is not required by the work and is done on your own time.
 
PieIsAwesome said:
I'm waiting for:

"Wow, you guys are right. Thanks for the advice, I think I will give it a shot and hope for the best!"
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I think TridentT is going to have to fall flat on his face before he realizes what he's doing to himself. He's clearly at least somewhat intelligent and capable, but he's just too negative about everything and always finds excuses.
 
TridenT said:
Not really... Go to a series of poor schools with mostly mediocre teachers and you'll find that's not true.
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Don't you like to point out how stupid people are on these forums a lot? If so then you obviously feel you are at least somewhat smart. Given this it's very hypocritical of you to say the above.
 
Locut0s said:
Don't you like to point out how stupid people are on these forums a lot? If so then you obviously feel you are at least somewhat smart. Given this it's very hypocritical of you to say the above.
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Intelligence != expertise. Like I said, I went to shitty schools. I didn't learn much at all.
 
TridenT said:
Intelligence != expertise. Like I said, I went to shitty schools. I didn't learn much at all.
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The thing that amazed me most about my first internship was how little my lack of experience mattered. I was a EE major doing a software internship. I had taken a class in high school, and a few introductory classes offered by the EE department.

I spent the first week or two of my internship learning C# and I spent the whole summer asking basic questions about the language and programming patterns. My internship there was very successful.

It doesn't matter how much you know. What matters is how you think and whether you're capable of solving problems.
 
Leros said:
The thing that amazed me most about my first internship was how little my lack of experience mattered. I was a EE major doing a software internship. I had taken a class in high school, and a few introductory classes offered by the EE department.

I spent the first week or two of my internship learning C# and I spent the whole summer asking basic questions about the language and programming patterns. My internship there was very successful.

It doesn't matter how much you know. What matters is how you think and whether you're capable of solving problems.
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I seriously doubt I will get or even FIND an internship like that. I'm very skeptical of it being even a remote possibility.
 
TridenT said:
Intelligence != expertise. Like I said, I went to shitty schools. I didn't learn much at all.
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HAHA LOL since when do schools give you expertise. School give you facts which you record in your head with the help of your intelligence. Real life then gives you the expertise.
 
TridenT said:
I seriously doubt I will get or even FIND an internship like that. I'm very skeptical of it being even a remote possibility.
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You should have seen some of the idiots this company hired as interns....

You would be amazed. One girl could barely program. She didn't accomplish anything all summer and they had no interest in bringing her back. But guess what? She got paid, plus she got to put in on her resume. The next year she got something better.
 
Locut0s said:
HAHA LOL since when do schools give you expertise. School give you facts which you record in your head with the help of your intelligence. Real life then gives you the expertise.
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Right, because math is not a field you can have expertise in. Neither is chemistry, physics, biology, etc.
 
TridenT said:
Right, because math is not a field you can have expertise in. Neither is chemistry, physics, biology, etc.
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Hint: When you graduate and start working, 90% of what you need to do your job will be stuff you learned after graduating.

I almost feel like my undergraduate degree was a waste of time. Almost....
 
Leros said:
Hint: When you graduate and start working, 90% of what you need to do your job will be stuff you learned after graduating.

I almost feel like my undergraduate degree was a waste of time. Almost....
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I think that really depends on the field. Your baseline is definitely going to be a lot to deal with your undergrad stuff. (Assuming you do anything related to your actual undergrad field)
 
TridenT said:
Any ideas for a job for me to get over the summer?

I have almost no redeeming talents or values. I do have a couple tickets on my MVR. (Speeding)

Not many McDonalds up here.
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Car dealership. Had a job interview to do detailing, basically cleaning cars, for 12.50 an hour.

try for a lot tech position, brainless, good pay. amazing benefits.
 
TridenT said:
I think that really depends on the field. Your baseline is definitely going to be a lot to deal with your undergrad stuff. (Assuming you do anything related to your actual undergrad field)
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Even in physics, math, chem whatever you want to come up with most of what you will end up doing you will learn "on the job". Certainly in those jobs it's a smaller percentage but I can tell you if you end up being a math prof they don't give you lessons on how to teach, how to mark etc etc... Even writing research papers is something that you basically learn by doing I'm sure.
 
HybridSquirrel said:
good for "noobs" I have worked at several over the years. the pay is always better than any job you can basically have no talents and still do. lots of room for advancement if you go to a bigger corporate one.
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I see a lot of people driving around here with very nice cars. I can see how there could be room to go to a nicer dealership with nicer cars. 😛
 
HybridSquirrel said:
Car dealership. Had a job interview to do detailing, basically cleaning cars, for 12.50 an hour.

try for a lot tech position, brainless, good pay. amazing benefits.
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It would make more sense for him to do something as related to his career as possible. If he can't get a real programming internship, at least something to with computers. IT work or anything.
 
TridenT said:
I think that really depends on the field. Your baseline is definitely going to be a lot to deal with your undergrad stuff. (Assuming you do anything related to your actual undergrad field)
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You're CS right? Then 75% of what you learn will be outside of class. You think you're going to be designing Turing machines and pushdown automata at your real job (assuming you ever get one)?
 
TridenT said:
After 2nd year, sure. After 1st year? Skeptical. You just got done learning your first year of calculus at that point.

For CS major, I am very skeptical someone will get an internship with almost no programming experience at all. (Which is basically what you are around after 1st year places I've looked at)
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Sorry, had I done EECS instead, I would've finished 2 semesters of programming already or 1 semester of programming and 1 semester of circuits or signals/systems. There must be something you could've taken...
 
nkgreen said:
You're CS right? Then 75% of what you learn will be outside of class. You think you're going to be designing Turing machines and pushdown automata at your real job (assuming you ever get one)?
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The only things I used at my internship was the basic concept of how to program, very basic knowledge of data structures, and a few random facts which helped me Google (or "Bing!" when I was at MS 😛) stuff when I was confused. Basically stuff you would know from having taken Intro to CS. Honestly, I probably could have done my internships without going to college.
 
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Leros said:
It would make more sense for him to do something as related to his career as possible. If he can't get a real programming internship, at least something to with computers. IT work or anything.
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TridenT said:
Any ideas for a job for me to get over the summer?

I have almost no redeeming talents or values. I do have a couple tickets on my MVR. (Speeding)

Not many McDonalds up here.
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He said a good job for "noobs". a car dealership is a good job for a noob.
 
Leros said:
It would make more sense for him to do something as related to his career as possible. If he can't get a real programming internship, at least something to with computers. IT work or anything.
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IT work is so vague. It can be very specialized or everything... The shit people want in their little "requirements" is ridiculous sometimes. (500+ years of experience, must know all languages (Especially Latin, Esperanto, LISP, Fortran, and LOLCODE!), A++ certification, Orcale DBA cert, PMP cert, Private Pilots License, and MORE!)
 
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