Stupidity and the Death Penalty

[bshole]

I found this case particularly interesting. It was about a serial killer who targeted black women. He would beat them, tell them he was going to kill them, rape them and then kill them. He said enjoyed telling them he was going to kill them because they then would beg for their lives. He was extremely successful with 5 known kills and 2 failed kills. There are possibly more but those are known for sure.

He was convicted and given the death penalty. On appeal the sentence was commuted to life because the judge ruled the serial killer too stupid to execute. I found this interesting in that the killer was smart enough to get away with multiple murders. He seemed very clever in the way he went about his crimes.

I am anti-death penalty overall and cases like this are a reason why. If people are not going to be treated equally under the law, if some people are able to get off for reasons that do not mitigate guilt, then the death penalty is a fundamentally flawed concept. That and I do not want my government killing citizens.

Twenty years after Joseph Miller was charged with murdering three women in Dauphin County — he later confessed to a fourth murder — he has been charged with yet another killing.

Miller, 51, Tuesday was charged in the death of a woman whose remains were found in 1997 along Chambers Hill Road in Swatara Township. The woman's body was found about a mile away from where the bodies of three of hits other victims were found.

District Attorney Ed Marsico described Miller as "the most prolific killer in Dauphin County history."

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/04/the_grisly_history_of_joseph_m.html

 

[Texashiker]

Save the criminals and kill the babies,,,,, ok.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Save the criminals and kill the babies,,,,, ok.

deliberately derailing the thread toothless?

And back to the op, if he was smart enough to commit those crimes and enjoyed wallowing in the victims misery he was definitely 'smart enough' to be executed.

 

[MovingTarget]

Save the criminals and kill the babies,,,,, ok.

Capital punishment is a direct action by the state. Your scientifically inaccurate word choice aside, abortion is not. When discussing policy, the former should hold more weight than the latter. Troll elsewhere.

 

[Jaskalas]

I oppose the Death Penalty where the guilty is not clearly proven beyond all doubt.
I do not know if this man is responsible beyond any doubt, but if he is, I wouldn't care if he was a vegetable. Still a vegetable you put down. I feel strongly that you put mass murderers down.

 

[JSt0rm]

We know the state has killed innocent people. That alone should be enough to stop all death penalties. Life in prison is cheaper and makes sure innocent people arent killed. Those in favor of small government should be in favor of this.

 

[Roflmouth]

Liberal idiots throwing temper tantrums over convicted killers being executed, while demanding that women be allowed to kill fetuses indiscriminately, is always hilarious.

 

[nakedfrog]

Liberal idiots throwing temper tantrums over convicted killers being executed, while demanding that women be allowed to kill fetuses indiscriminately, is always hilarious.

So, can you point out the specific posts in this thread where any "liberal idiots" are throwing tantrums?
Or did you just see "death penalty" and get triggered to spew your false equivalency?

 

[Fern]

The criminal justice and court systems are run by humans; hence there will always be idiosyncrasies.

Where we've tried rigid guidelines (3 strikes and out or mandated length of sentences) to eliminate inequalities and/or individual human judgement it also seems to result in injustice.

Fern

 

[Victorian Gray]

Liberal idiots throwing temper tantrums over convicted killers being executed, while demanding that women be allowed to kill fetuses indiscriminately, is always hilarious.

When you're finished playing you should always clean up your straw.

 

[Roflmouth]

The criminal justice and court systems are run by humans; hence there will always be idiosyncrasies.

Where we've tried rigid guidelines (3 strikes and out or mandated length of sentences) to eliminate inequalities and/or individual human judgement it also seems to result in injustice.

Not for the victims that the criminals can't target because they're in prison. But they don't matter, right?

 

[agent00f]

Liberal idiots throwing temper tantrums over convicted killers being executed, while demanding that women be allowed to kill fetuses indiscriminately, is always hilarious.

Just fyi, "throwing tantrums" is associated with using emotional language & arguments, like screaming about killing fetuses & willie horton.

 

[Sunburn74]

I personally am not in support of the death penalty (I think ambivalence is generally where I sit because I don't think it's the worst thing that can happen to a person but it is a very difficult thing to try to apply fairly on a case by case basis) but I never really understood why we as a society makes a distinction between life in prison vs the death penalty in terms of people with intellectual disabilities. Either the death penalty is always cruel and inhumane or it never is. Either decision is fine as long as we are consistent as a society

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Why is it the most virulently anti-abortion types are the best arguments for abortion...?

 

[Maxima1]

I'm against it because it ends up just being a racket.

 

[Darwin333]

Liberal idiots throwing temper tantrums over convicted killers being executed, while demanding that women be allowed to kill fetuses indiscriminately, is always hilarious.

I find it even more hilarious that the other side is firmly against allowing a woman to decide what happens to her own body because "all life is precious". Yet at the same time they just as strongly advocates a system in which the state kills people, the same system which has and with all likelihood will again kill innocent people. When you throw in the fact that it's more expensive for the state to execute someone than it is to simply lock them up for life it becomes even more hilarious that the "fiscally responsible" ones advocate it so much.

 

[Darwin333]

Not for the victims that the criminals can't target because they're in prison. But they don't matter, right?

Wanna take a guess at how many people have been hit with 3 strike laws that had committed only victim-less crimes?