Stupid rant about the big bang

[MTDEW]

I didnt put this in the tech forum since im no expert, i'm just a regular joe blow watching the science channel.

Black Holes :
So im watching a show about black holes and how the gravity is so intense that it crushes all the material down to a single point.
And of course there are those that ask where all the material sucked in goes, since it cant just disappear.

Big Bang:
Then i'm watching an episode on the big bang and how everything started from a single point known as the singularity.
And it exploded creating the universe.
And of course there are those that say that is impossible, everything could not have came from nothing.

Both
Now if you put the two together, a black hole sucks in huge amounts of material and crushes it down to a single point, then that single point of singularity explodes to create another universe.

Both problems solved, the stuff that enters a black hole doesn't disappear, and the big bang didnt start from nothing.

Heck it even explains how material is recycled, stuff is sucked into a black hole creating another universe in which its material is sucked into other black holes and recycled to create more universes...etc....etc..


Ok, ive got my flame suit on. :biggrin:
Like i said, i know nothing of any of this other than what ive seen on tv, but i am curious to hear from someone who knows this stuff, why its not being considered as a possibility.

 

[ch33zw1z]

#$$%%^ jesus saves.

 

[Juddog]

I didnt put this in the tech forum since im no expert, i'm just a regular joe blow watching the science channel.

Black Holes :
So im watching a show about black holes and how the gravity is so intense that it crushes all the material down to a single point.
And of course there are those that ask where all the material sucked in goes, since it cant just disappear.

Big Bang:
Then i'm watching an episode on the big bang and how everything started from a single point known as the singularity.
And it exploded creating the universe.
And of course there are those that say that is impossible, everything could not have came from nothing.

Both
Now if you put the two together, a black hole sucks in huge amounts of material and crushes it down to a single point, then that single point of singularity explodes to create another universe.

Both problems solved, the stuff that enters a black hole doesn't disappear, and the big bang didnt start from nothing.

Heck it even explains how material is recycled, stuff is sucked into a black hole creating another universe in which its material is sucked into other black holes and recycled to create more universes...etc....etc..


Ok, ive got my flame suit on. :biggrin:
Like i said, i know nothing of any of this other than what ive seen on tv, but i am curious to hear from someone who knows this stuff, why its not being considered as a possibility.

Well you have touched upon one idea that has been tossed about; essentially the idea is that the universe explodes outwards until eventually it stops expanding, whereupon it once again collapses inwards to a single point and then booms outwards yet again, in an eternal cycle.

 

[JTsyo]

If that was the case the new universes would only have the mass that the black hole had to start with.

 

[GasX]

I don't understand what your point is. btw, do you know how magnets work?

 

[Macamus Prime]

And of course there are those that ask where all the material sucked in goes, since it cant just disappear.

I think; it gets crushed and shot out into space. Where it collides and spins with such energy and force, that light can't bounce off of it - thats why space is so "black".

 

[techs]

I saw Samantha Carter blow up a sun once.

 

[Glitchny]

I saw Samantha Carter blow up a sun once.

pshaw! McKay took out 3/4th of a solar system.

 

[techs]

pshaw! McKay took out 3/4th of a solar system.

It was maybe a half.

 

[OCGuy]

Ancient Aliens.

 

[Pheran]

This idea has already been the subject of various science fiction stories; the first one that comes to mind is Manifold: Time by Stephen Baxter.

 

[Vic Vega]

Where did the matter which was compressed and released in the big bang come from?

No one can answer this question. Not science, not religion. No one has this answer. Chances are no one ever will.

 

[aigomorla]

I didnt put this in the tech forum since im no expert, i'm just a regular joe blow watching the science channel.

Black Holes :
So im watching a show about black holes and how the gravity is so intense that it crushes all the material down to a single point.
And of course there are those that ask where all the material sucked in goes, since it cant just disappear.
.

Pretend we are 2D.. and we all live in a 2D world.

Now some punk named god, comes and throws a 3D straw into our 2d world for fun and giggles.

And like how that straw caused a hole in our 2D universe... how does someone in 2D, explain what the 3d straw is?

a black hole...

My physics teacher was pretty cool at making us understand complicated things.


The Big Bang is based on Thermodynamic Enthropy, because its the only way we can explain things with our current knowledge of science.

Is it right or wrong? No one can prove true or false, thats why there called Theories.

The black hole was rewritten so much itself if you look back even 50 yrs, so whose to say what type of science we will have in 50yrs.


Last comment... no one will know until we have the science to start proving theories.
As of yet.. we have nothing, hence why they will stay as theories.

 

[AstroManLuca]

btw, do you know how magnets work?

they're miracles

just like music

you can't even hold it

 

[JTsyo]

Where did the matter which was compressed and released in the big bang come from?

No one can answer this question. Not science, not religion. No one has this answer. Chances are no one ever will.

From nothing. Matter+anti-matter = 0 So if you have zero you can create as much matter as you want as long as you make the same amount of anti-matter. Something threw the proportions off and there was more matter than anti-matter right at the start. I forget where I read this theory on how matter came to be.

 

[her209]

I didnt put this in the tech forum since im no expert, i'm just a regular joe blow watching the science channel.

Black Holes :
So im watching a show about black holes and how the gravity is so intense that it crushes all the material down to a single point.
And of course there are those that ask where all the material sucked in goes, since it cant just disappear.

Read up on white holes.

 

[techs]

I don't understand what your point is. btw, do you know how magnets work?

they're miracles

just like music

you can't even hold it

But you can see gravity.

If you're British.

 

[ioni]

Where did the matter which was compressed and released in the big bang come from?

No one can answer this question. Not science, not religion. No one has this answer. Chances are no one ever will.

Hint: e=mc^2. Solve for m.

 

[Kadarin]

It's not in the Bible, so "it's just a theory" and therefore there's no possible way God would let such an abominable idea be true. You need to go and say ten Our Fathers and ten Hail Marys as penance for even thinking such ridiculous thoughts.

 

[techs]

Hint: e=mc^2. Solve for m.

Crap. Isn't there a universe somewhere without math?

 

[GrumpyMan]

Wow, I just found out that the moon in not made of green cheese and now you guys throw this out there. No wonder I can't sleep at night.

 

[destrekor]

Our universe is simply a blackhole somewhere. :hmm:

Kind of intriguing when combining the holographic theory in a 11-dimensional model and thinking of black holes and the multiverse.

[edit]

And this allows the concept of white holes. :awe:
A big bang is the temporary existence of a white hole, spewing a universe from the singularity rooted in another universe.

 

[Lemon law]

One can invent all kinds of untestable theories, but right now, on somewhat the black hole level, the LHC in Europe is the latest best attempt of man to understand what happens to matter immediately after a singularity is created or ended.

As we are hoping to see states of observable matter never seen before as well as that elusive Higg's Boson.

 

[preslove]

This has been proposed by a well known cosmologist, Lee Smolin:

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Cosmos-Le...0223118&sr=8-1

 

[destrekor]

One can invent all kinds of untestable theories, but right now, on somewhat the black hole level, the LHC in Europe is the latest best attempt of man to understand what happens to matter immediately after a singularity is created or ended.

As we are hoping to see states of observable matter never seen before as well as that elusive Higg's Boson.

Exactly. Right now so many theories are just that, theories. Very few testable true hypotheses, but here's to hoping the LHC is able to give us observable evidence for a few of those testable theories. We're behind on actual discovery of radical new facts, we need more.

But until new tests can be devised, and current hypotheses can be finally answered and plugged into the more radical theories, everyone is really just taking educated guesses, and some aren't as educated as others.