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Stupid question. What's the Conservative alternative to the Daily Show?

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OCGuy

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It is the double standard of comedy. Liberals get to make fun the (R) base with no issue. This country tolerates making fun of white/male/Xtian/rednecks.

If there was a show other than Daniel Tosh that freely made fun of the (D) base, they would be called racist and thrown off the air.
 

zinfamous

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there was actually an attempt to produce such a show, and a few episodes were aired...FoxNews? a few years ago.


it was a flop, because not only are conservatives generally humorless, their capacity for understanding irony is limited and that the heart of Stuart's brilliance lies in the fact that he is a comedian, first and foremost, that ribs all politicians equally--and is not just out to "get conservatives."
 

zinfamous

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I can't stand listening to Rush Limbaugh. Someone really needs to tell him to stop eating and drinking while on the radio. It's disgusting hearing him chew and sip.

well, he needs constant liquids to dilute the metric ton of oxycodone pumping through his veins, fueling his hatred and oxygen-deprived grey matter.
 

zinfamous

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Its funny. I enjoy it.

Its full of lies and nonsense compared to the real world. But Jon Stewart acknowledged that on his 9/12 show and I respect him a great deal for it.

because airing videos of people making fools of themselves, for all to see, ...is somehow creating lies?

:hmm:
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Lies? Jon Stewert never said that. He acknowledged that the Daily Show was a comedy show and that he knew that he had a lower bar of journalistic integrity.

However, he does not lie. He represents things in different lights that finds the humor in things. He is not obligated to tell the whole truth, but almost everything that the daily show says is based on truth.

When the assault weapon ban ran out he said that in the 10 years it covered, crime rates had all spiraled down. Thats a lie. All crime rates went up slightly and violent crime rates went up a great deal.

It was a very quick lead in to a joke but I heard it and it stuck with me cuz I knew it was crap.
 

jagec

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When the assault weapon ban ran out he said that in the 10 years it covered, crime rates had all spiraled down. Thats a lie. All crime rates went up slightly and violent crime rates went up a great deal.

Where do you get your stats? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the early 90s. Now, the AWB (1994-2004) may have nothing to do with that, but it's still a pretty impressive drop. Even MORE impressive when you do a per-capita comparison of the years.

Check it out for yourself.
 

zinfamous

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When the assault weapon ban ran out he said that in the 10 years it covered, crime rates had all spiraled down. Thats a lie. All crime rates went up slightly and violent crime rates went up a great deal.

It was a very quick lead in to a joke but I heard it and it stuck with me cuz I knew it was crap.


...so is one to assume, then, that the ban on assault weapons led to more crime?

:hmm:
 

shortylickens

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...so is one to assume, then, that the ban on assault weapons led to more crime?

:hmm:

Nope. But it does prove banning guns wont reduce crime.

Guns dont make crime, people do. And most of it is caused by lack of higher education and employment. Fix those problems, a shitload of ancillary issues go away too.
 

zinfamous

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Where do you get your stats? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the early 90s. Now, the AWB (1994-2004) may have nothing to do with that, but it's still a pretty impressive drop. Even MORE impressive when you do a per-capita comparison of the years.

Check it out for yourself.


it's funny. the only time you ever see such funny numbers are when they are published in issues of "Gun Fancy" or "Gun Runners Weekly," etc.

I mean, it makes sense for a certain segment of the population to believe these things--because that is the only resource they will expose themselves to. I don't criticize people for that, but it would be better to exercise a little more diligence and take one's source into consideration.


I've even seen arguments that New York has seen worse crime in the last decades, (you know, compared to the 60s-70s) as gun ownership laws have gotten more strict.

:D

yeah, I know, right? :)
 

zinfamous

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Nope. But it does prove banning guns wont reduce crime.

Guns dont make crime, people do. And most of it is caused by lack of higher education and employment. Fix those problems, a shitload of ancillary issues go away too.


ah, there's that word: "proof."

"Evidence," sir..."evidence"

people that don't use numbers and data on a regular basis tend to confuse terms such as "proof" and "evidence"

I very much agree with your last statement though. Damn it, shorty! you are sounding like a dirty librul!!!


BUT, that being said, these numbers that you mention aren't actually...real numbers :\
 

pelov

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It is the double standard of comedy. Liberals get to make fun the (R) base with no issue. This country tolerates making fun of white/male/Xtian/rednecks.

If there was a show other than Daniel Tosh that freely made fun of the (D) base, they would be called racist and thrown off the air.

I hear this a lot and I think it's poopoo, particularly for those who have watched The Daily Show since back when Clinton was in office. He poked and prodded at Clinton and that sex scandal just like he went after Bush for being a bit downy (the man was quite clearly not very bright).

I used to align myself with the Conservatives, but the recent trend of going full retard within the party has turned me off. They now value their backasswards morals and principles above common sense and this homey don't play 'dat.

Stewart's show takes jabs at the donkeys as well. Just last night when covering the democratic convention they did the same shtick they had at the RNC where they interviewed people and showcased their stupidity. Granted, most of the jabs do tend to be at the republicans but when you've got Limbaugh, Palin and Beck you have to admit that the jokes pretty much write themselves.
 

BladeVenom

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South Park, they seem to lean towards the Libertarian point of view, and do a good job of making fun of liberals.

Portlandia is another comedy making fun of liberals.
 

shortylickens

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He poked and prodded at Clinton for the sex scandals. Never for the piss poor decisions that hurt the country.
 

Craig234

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Liberals can do humor better because humor can use the truth. Stewart constantly exposes things.

The type of humor conservatives can do is only hate-based.

You know the type - people who find things like pictures of blacks eating watermelons or chicken HILARIOUS because it lets them vent their hate feeling superior.

See one of PJABBER's posts for a taste of this sort of hate humor.

For those people, just making simple caricatures of names they hate is HILARIOUS. Like that 'Obama's mom conceived him from a stranger in group sex at a party' joke.

For people with more sense, it's not funny.

I really didn't want to do this, so be grateful, but I googled for jokes by mitt romney to help you appreciate the point.

1.
Mitt Romney, accepting the nomination for president of the United States, addressed the crowd that had gathered in Tampa, Fla., for this occasion, and he made a little joke in his speech.

“President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans,” Romney said, and paused for effect.

The crowd laughed.

“And to heal the planet,” Romney continued.

The crowd laughed again.

“My promise is to help you and your family,” he finished, to a roaring standing ovation from the audience.

In other words, “healing the planet” has little to do with helping American families.

See, just mentioning trying to reduce climate change is hilarious, because Republicans know climate change is a lie.

2.
Mitt Romney made a joke about his birth certificate at a rally in Commerce, Mich. on Friday.

Speaking about his Michigan roots, he said, "No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place that we were born and raised."

The joke was received with hearty applause by the audience.

(For commentary on how Republicans tried to find false equivalency with an Obama joke, see http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/08/guide-defending-mitt-romneys-birther-joke/56178/)

When it's not hate, it's often just bad.

3.
TAMPA, FLA. – Mitt Romney began his Republican National Convention (RNC) speech off on the lighter side Thursday night, joking that his playlist is better than running mate Paul Ryan’s list.

During his address at the convention Wednesday night, Ryan, 42, zinged Romney, 65, on his musical tastes, saying, “There are the songs on his iPod, which I’ve heard on the campaign bus and on many hotel elevators...

On Thursday in his presidential nomination acceptance speech Romney responded.

“But Paul, I still like the playlist on my iPod better than yours,” he said.

Painful.

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Romney opens Indiana event with weather joke

POLITICO's Ginger Gibson reports:


Mitt Romney started his speech to the American Legion convention in Indianapolis with a joke.

“I appreciate this invitation to join you on dry land this afternoon,” Romney said, prompting laughter from the audience.

Then he switched to a more serious tone.

“Our thoughts are of course with the people of the Gulf Coast states,” Romney continued. “Seven years ago today, they were bracing for Hurricane Katrina. This afternoon they are enduring Isaac. We're grateful that it appears Isaac will spare them from the kind of damage we saw during Katrina, but for many in the Gulf Coast who just finished repairing their homes and are getting a life back to normal, this must be a heavy burden. So today our thoughts are with them, our prayers go out to them, and our country must do all we can to help them recover.”
 
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shortylickens

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Liberals can do humor better because humor can use the truth. Stewart constantly exposes things.

The type of humor conservatives can do is only hate-based.

You know the type - people who find things like pictures of blacks eating watermelons or chicken HILARIOUS because it lets them vent their hate feeling superior.

See one of PJABBER's posts for a taste of this sort of hate humor.

For those people, just making simple caricatures of names they hate is HILARIOUS. Like that 'Obama's mom conceived him from a stranger in group sex at a party' joke.

Their humor is hate based too. As was pointed out above, its OK to hate so long as its on whites.
 

pelov

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He poked and prodded at Clinton for the sex scandals. Never for the piss poor decisions that hurt the country.

I'd wager quite a few people would rather live in the Clinton era than either the Bush or Obama era, particularly with respect to economic prosperity. That discussion is only going to wind up in P&N, though.
 

BladeVenom

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Their humor is hate based too. As was pointed out above, its OK to hate so long as its on whites.

Liberals can't take a joke. They almost always get away with mean humor. Let the opposite happen, and the media comes down any Republican who offends liberals.
 

Craig234

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South Park, they seem to lean towards the Libertarian point of view, and do a good job of making fun of liberals.

I'd say yes and no. It's often funny - but also often crosses a line for caricature to not be enough about the truth.

It'd be a little like having a character who ALWAYS has a bible in one hand and a gun in the other to caricature right-wingers. Starting to go too far to be that funny.
 

Craig234

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Liberals can't take a joke. They almost always get away with mean humor. Let the opposite happen, and the media comes down any Republican who offends liberals.

A good example of the right-wing mentality. Why isn't a joke with the N word ok?

Admittedly, liberals do have some 'hate based humor' also. Every side enjoys some of that.
 

Craig234

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Example of poor taste joke against Republicans: about the hurricane at the RNC that the Republicans don't mind, they're happy to have a party with black people drowning.
 
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Perknose

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When the assault weapon ban ran out he said that in the 10 years it covered, crime rates had all spiraled down. Thats a lie. All crime rates went up slightly and violent crime rates went up a great deal.
Where do you get your stats? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the early 90s. Now, the AWB (1994-2004) may have nothing to do with that, but it's still a pretty impressive drop. Even MORE impressive when you do a per-capita comparison of the years.

Check it out for yourself.

You just got owned by the facts, shorty. ;)
 

OCGuy

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No, that's just your whiney attempt to make false equivalency.

Show me a few recent liberal jokes all about 'hating on whites'.

Are you kidding? Every minority comedian on the circut makes a living off of "white" jokes.