Stupid gun owners

[HumblePie]

I hate media news stories that emphasize certain adjectives that mean absolutely nothing in an attempt to demonize something to for people that have no clue as to what it means.

Seriously, why does every media news story have to reiterate "semi-automatic" when describing a handgun? No one carries around automatic handguns or old school wheel locks either commonly anymore. Absolute garbage reporting whenever a news story puts that word in to describe a gun.

 

[Fern]

I hate media news stories that emphasize certain adjectives that mean absolutely nothing in an attempt to demonize something to for people that have no clue as to what it means.

Seriously, why does every media news story have to reiterate "semi-automatic" when describing a handgun? No one carries around automatic handguns or old school wheel locks either commonly anymore. Absolute garbage reporting whenever a news story puts that word in to describe a gun.

Wut?

My CC gun is a wheelgun.

And my home protection gun is a wheelgun; a Colt Python.

I guess I'm old fashioned.

Fern

 

[HTFOff]

Wut?

My CC gun is a wheelgun.

And my home protection gun is a wheelgun; a Colt Python.

I guess I'm old fashioned.

Fern

I think he meant single action.

Whens the last time some thug/trash committed a crime with a ruger blackhawk or colt single action army?

 

[HumblePie]

Wut?

My CC gun is a wheelgun.

And my home protection gun is a wheelgun; a Colt Python.

I guess I'm old fashioned.

Fern

Wheel lock =/= wheel gun.

A revolver is still a one trigger action = 1 shot with no reloading in between. Thus it is a semi-automatic firearm.

Wheel lock and flint lock guns are really old school guns. Musket ball guns. People don't really commit crimes with those kinds of guns nor with fully automatic guns (assuming the debatable position of actions by a given government).

 

[Nintendesert]

no

kid gets gun, kid shoots mom

The rules for Darwin are that you are taken out of the gene pool. The fact that you have already spawned doesn't disqualify you. (does it?)

Wow.

:|

 

[rudeguy]

Wow.

:|

too much?

 

[Moonbeam]

It happens from time to time that people in church are killed by a falling cross.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Wheel lock =/= wheel gun.

A revolver is still a one trigger action = 1 shot with no reloading in between. Thus it is a semi-automatic firearm.

Wheel lock and flint lock guns are really old school guns. Musket ball guns. People don't really commit crimes with those kinds of guns nor with fully automatic guns (assuming the debatable position of actions by a given government).

There are plenty of single-action revolvers - my dad has several. The double-action revolver did not become mainstream until almost the end of the 19th century, and the classic Colts and Smith and Wessons that won the west were all single action. It's true that few people would carry a single-action revolver for defense (I know I wouldn't), but they do exist in huge numbers and are still produced today.

 

[HumblePie]

There are plenty of single-action revolvers - my dad has several. The double-action revolver did not become mainstream until almost the end of the 19th century, and the classic Colts and Smith and Wessons that won the west were all single action. It's true that few people would carry a single-action revolver for defense (I know I wouldn't), but they do exist in huge numbers and are still produced today.

Trigger pull is not what designates semi-automatic from automatic from non automatic at all.

Automatic = multiple shots per any action of the trigger (doesn't matter if the trigger is a single action or double action trigger)

Semi-automatic = 1 shot per any action of the trigger (again the type of trigger does not matter)

Non automatic = 1 shot per barrel or less. Period. Muskets are not automatic for example.


A wheel lock gun is a non automatic. A wheel gun (aka revolver) is a semi automatic gun. Here are pictures in case you are still having a problem understanding this.

This is a wheel lock pistol

This is a wheel gun pistol

People today do not commonly commit any type of crime with non-automatic, nor automatic guns. Damn near every crime committed by a firearm is a semi-automatic firearm. To have media always stress this is redundant and stupid.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

A single action revolver does nothing when the trigger is pulled - the gun has to be manually cocked first. This is why it is not semi-automatic.

 

[HumblePie]

A single action revolver does nothing when the trigger is pulled - the gun has to be manually cocked first. This is why it is not semi-automatic.

My correction bit was explaining to fern the difference between wheel lock and wheel gun as not the same firearm. The original argument I made is that damn near every gun used in a crime today is by a semi automatic gun. That non automatics and fully automatics are almost never used.

 

[OGOC]

IMO, we need to have rule that you must pass common sense/behavior tests before you can own a gun/have CCW license.

If the fans of public schools and the fans of gun safety would get together and require gun safety classes be taught in schools, we wouldn't have these problems.

The ironic part, of course, is that the people who love to throw lots of money at schools, and the people who say we need to stop firearms accidents, are often the same people. But they'll fight you every step before they allow a little kid to make a pretend gun with his fingers, much less allow a gun safety class to be taught that could actually save lives.