Stupid: Fred Taylor to retire as Jaguar

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darkewaffle

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MotionMan said:
5. Re: McNabb - I understand WHY they do it. I just think it is stupid. And, so far, no one has presented a valid reason for it other than it feels good. I believe the stupid outweighs the feel good.
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I don't see how "emotional response" outweighs "valid reason".
 
AMDZen

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Its valid for both the franchise and the player. Its all about money. Which is why Favre is mending his relationship with the Packers right now. It only makes sense for the both of them and future money's the organization will acquire having Favre back in the fold.

These players are the faces of their perspective franchises. True fans see these people as faces of their cities even.
 
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BUTCH1

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MotionMan said:
05/14/13 UPDATE:

'Tis the season for stupidity:

Donovan McNabb to retire as Eagle

MotionMan
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Why, because Taylor wants to retire in front of the fans that cheered him for so long, yea, in this day and age of sports veterans often spend their last season or two playing for another team but that doesn't mean you don't have "roots" to the team that drafted you or the fans you spent 10 years playing in front of, why this is difficult for you to understand IDK...
 
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BUTCH1 said:
Why, because Taylor wants to retire in front of the fans that cheered him for so long, yea, in this day and age of sports veterans often spend their last season or two playing for another team but that doesn't mean you don't have "roots" to the team that drafted you or the fans you spent 10 years playing in front of, why this is difficult for you to understand IDK...
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I'm right there with you.

McNabb was the face of the Eagles for years, even the face of Philadelphia
 
Dirigible

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darkewaffle said:
I don't see how "emotional response" outweighs "valid reason".
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The whole point of sports is an emotional response. Without the emotion, I wouldn't watch sports at all. Rationally speaking, being a fan of the 49ers who has broken multiple remote controls from throwing them across the room in a fit of anger because the 49ers lost/made a bad play/whatever is completely and utterly stupid.

So if you're going to bring rational thoughts into sports and discount emotional responses, you are negating the very essence of sports and reducing it to nothing worth talking or thinking about at all.

In other words, you're stupid. :p

(They "you" above is MotionMan. Who is stupid. But is a Niners fan, so I like him anyway.)
 
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BUTCH1

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I'm right there with you.

McNabb was the face of the Eagles for years, even the face of Philadelphia
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Exactly, even if Elway did a season or two at the end of his career he would always be a Bronco to the true Denver fans, everyone knows about salary caps, back-ended contracts and it being a business, but even if god forbid the Pat's trade Brady he will always be a Patriot to me, even if he spent his last season in say San Diego..
 
MotionMan

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BUTCH1 said:
Why, because Taylor wants to retire in front of the fans that cheered him for so long, yea, in this day and age of sports veterans often spend their last season or two playing for another team but that doesn't mean you don't have "roots" to the team that drafted you or the fans you spent 10 years playing in front of, why this is difficult for you to understand IDK...
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I am not sure why this concept seems to be so hard for people to grasp:

I have no problem with a player going to his old team's facility to announce his retirement (I believe I clearly stated that early on in this thread).

What I find stupid is the whole "sign a one day contract so you can 'retire as a'", B.S.

MotionMan
 
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BUTCH1

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MotionMan said:
I am not sure why this concept seems to be so hard for people to grasp:

I have no problem with a player going to his old team's facility to announce his retirement (I believe I clearly stated that early on in this thread).

What I find stupid is the whole "sign a one day contract so you can 'retire as a'", B.S.

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It's so on the record books you retired as a Jaguar, because this was an important part of your life, this was where you spent the most meaningful time in your career, when you went from a college kid to a pro. Kinda like you never forget your first girlfriend, OK..
 
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Geez, no one mentioned that players tend to choose the team based on money? Fred Taylor isn't going to get any endorsements or any jobs or be in demand for sports memorabilia shows or announcing jobs or just doing guest spots on local sports radio in New England. By retiring as a Jag-off he is in a position to maybe get some of those things
 
MotionMan

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BUTCH1 said:
It's so on the record books you retired as a Jaguar
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What record books? This "signing a one day contract and retiring as a" does not show up on any record book anywhere.

If you know otherwise, please share.

MotionMan
 
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techs said:
Geez, no one mentioned that players tend to choose the team based on money? Fred Taylor isn't going to get any endorsements or any jobs or be in demand for sports memorabilia shows or announcing jobs or just doing guest spots on local sports radio in New England. By retiring as a Jag-off he is in a position to maybe get some of those things
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He "retiring as a Jag" has absolutely no affect on his ability to do endorsements in Jacksonville.

Where do you get that idea from?

MotionMan
 
AMDZen

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techs said:
Geez, no one mentioned that players tend to choose the team based on money? Fred Taylor isn't going to get any endorsements or any jobs or be in demand for sports memorabilia shows or announcing jobs or just doing guest spots on local sports radio in New England. By retiring as a Jag-off he is in a position to maybe get some of those things
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Uhhh, I did mention that, several posts before your's.

AMDZen said:
Its valid for both the franchise and the player. Its all about money. Which is why Favre is mending his relationship with the Packers right now. It only makes sense for the both of them and future money's the organization will acquire having Favre back in the fold.

These players are the faces of their perspective franchises. True fans see these people as faces of their cities even.
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Common sense if you ask me, but I mentioned it any way since MotionMan seems to lack it.
 
MotionMan

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Here is one man's (a very knowledgeable football man, BTW) answer to the important question, "Who started all this stupidity?":

"In 1994, Craig became the first player to sign a ceremonial contract to retire with the 49ers, the team that selected him in the second round of the 1983 NFL draft."

49ers' Roger Craig named finalist for 2020 Hall of Fame centennial class

So I guess every player who retired before 1994 could not have their numbers retired, put in their names in the ring of fame, or other be associated with their main team? I think not.

MotionMan
 
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darkswordsman17

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MotionMan said:
I am not sure why this concept seems to be so hard for people to grasp:

I have no problem with a player going to his old team's facility to announce his retirement (I believe I clearly stated that early on in this thread).

What I find stupid is the whole "sign a one day contract so you can 'retire as a'", B.S.

MotionMan
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I don't know why a grown man that idolizes men that dance around in tights (while following pretend rules) finds this bit of the entire absurdity that is sports and especially the NFL, too absurd that its the hill he's choosing to die on, but ok.

Lemme guess, its "about the principle!"
 
MotionMan

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darkswordsman17 said:
I don't know why a grown man that idolizes men that dance around in tights (while following pretend rules) finds this bit of the entire absurdity that is sports and especially the NFL, too absurd that its the hill he's choosing to die on, but ok.

Lemme guess, its "about the principle!"
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I got plenty of other things to complain about, but I like to try to stick to one subject her thread.

It's not about principle, it's about absurdity.

All rules are "pretend." Only the Laws of Nature are not made up.

MotionMan
 
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