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Dingdingding! Life begins at conception, but life != personhood.

Life, if it began at all, did so on this planet some several hundred million years ago. Since then, life has propagated in a continuum. The sperm and ovum that form a zygote are themselves alive, so there is life before and after conception. That does not fit any common or useful definition of "beginning."
 
Yes it is.
Uh, no, it isn't. This isn't a matter of opinion. Consent to the violations of bodily integrity intrinsic in pregnancy constitutes a waiver of a person's fundamental rights, and any such waiver must be explicit.

Education is whats needed and contraceptives period. If the dumb skank and douche bangin her dont wear protection thats their fault.
Fault for what? A fault is a breach of some duty owed. What duty do you think "skank" and "douche" owe, and to whom do they owe that alleged duty?
 
I already said there are lions that eat other males cubs....
But my point is that abortion is not natural, animals dont do it, and we are basically animals with big brains.

Right, abortion isn't "natural" (i.e. it doesn't happen in nature outside of humans who have the ability to do it). However, infanticide is natural. So is homosexual sex and relationships. So are many other things that humans don't do. So, since we're just large brained animals, why don't we just start killing infants instead since that's more natural?
 
Uh, no, it isn't. This isn't a matter of opinion. Consent to the violations of bodily integrity intrinsic in pregnancy constitutes a waiver of a person's fundamental rights, and any such waiver must be explicit.


Fault for what? A fault is a breach of some duty owed. What duty do you think "skank" and "douche" owe, and to whom do they owe that alleged duty?

It's their duty to bring an unwanted child into the world because they fucked up! Duh. 😉
 
Abortion is murder. :'(

Why do you care so much about something that doesn't directly affect you, but has a big impact on the people considering the abortion?

It's just none of your business. It should clearly be their choice. The idea that it could be anything other than their choice is completely ludicrous.
 
Why do you care so much about something that doesn't directly affect you, but has a big impact on the people considering the abortion?

It's just none of your business. It should clearly be their choice. The idea that it could be anything other than their choice is completely ludicrous.

Well, I think there are a couple of big world problems:

1) too much promiscuous and unwed sex

2) overpopulation.

We dont need to be killing unborn babies as a remedy to promiscuity and the resulting hoardes of parentless welfare kids. If we made abortions illegal and punish those that get pregnant irresponsibly that might help to address the aforementioned problems.

Sincerley,

MeowKat
 
Im not totally against abortion, like in cases of rape/incest/pedophelia then it should be mandatory. But in others no way.

In cases of rape/incest/pedophilia, it's not the zygote/embryo/fetus/baby's fault that it exists, but you're ok with killing it. However, if a woman consents to having sex (and presumably enjoys the experience), you feel she must be forced to raise a child or give it up for adoption.

You don't give a shit about whether or not it's viable human life you're killing, your argument really is that you don't want women to enjoy sex, nor be sexually empowered, without having to face consequences.

You're fucked up.
 
*Snip*

Care to back up your claim? Heres some food for thought from a leftist point of view may I add.
http://slv80.tripod.com/prowoman.html

http://anarchyinabottle.blogspot.co...11/abortion-anarchism-and-date-with-emma.html

Read up and try to use your brain a bit.

The world is being overrun by humans, less we procreate better it is, we should promote all types of contraception, abstinence and educate people to have less and less babies. If and when someone becomes pregnant and wants to abort in the first few weeks we should encourage them. Also, I believe ON ONE should have a baby unless they have a strong and matured marriage OR they are wealthy enough to support kids no matter what. babies born to people who cannot take care of themselves only result to more problems in the society and they are unnecessary drag on the society.
 
lol

Life in the solar system besides us... LOL

Yeah, ok. It's also possible that there are hundreds of tripod alien ships underneath the ground that we haven't detected... and they're gonna have aliens beamed into them... THEN WORLD DOMINATION! PEW PEW PEW! But, that's just 'highly improbable.'

Btw, highly improbable is also a synonym with 'not gonna fucking happen'.

TridenT.

The topic of discussion is that of basic life (bacteria, microbes) and human life.

Either you missed the purpose of the thread, or you are trolling.

When I said 'life in the solar system' I was in no way shape or form suggesting intelligent life or anything like that. Understood?
 
If life is found on other planets then that disproves God... uh oh.

How do you figure? Life is all around us in the form of humans, animals, insects, microbes, etc. God is the seed of life and creator of the Universe so to find life on other planets would only confirm that it also exists elsewhere. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Well, I think there are a couple of big world problems:

1) too much promiscuous and unwed sex

2) overpopulation.

We dont need to be killing unborn babies as a remedy to promiscuity and the resulting hoardes of parentless welfare kids. If we made abortions illegal and punish those that get pregnant irresponsibly that might help to address the aforementioned problems.

Sincerley,

MeowKat

Like I said, you can't change human behavior. Face it, people like to fuck. There is nothing you can do about that. There is also nothing wrong with that.

However, forcing them to have children when the aforementioned desire to have sex arises doesn't fix anything. It just makes things worse.

The fact that you think you can force your views on others is what is disturbing. It should be someones choice. You don't have to agree with it, but it should still be their choice.
 
Like I said, you can't change human behavior. Face it, people like to fuck. There is nothing you can do about that. There is also nothing wrong with that.

However, forcing them to have children when the aforementioned desire to have sex arises doesn't fix anything. It just makes things worse.

The fact that you think you can force your views on others is what is disturbing. It should be someones choice. You don't have to agree with it, but it should still be their choice.

You can't justify the taking of innocent life no matter how horny you get. Our society has plenty of laws to punish those that act against our collective will despite your opinion of it.

If you dont want to have children dont get pregnant. Its pretty simple with our without my view on it.
 
You can't justify the taking of innocent life no matter how horny you get. Our society has plenty of laws to punish those that act against our collective will despite your opinion of it.

If you dont want to have children dont get pregnant. Its pretty simple with our without my view on it.
Do you hold a trials to determine which carrots are guilty and which are innocent before you eat them?
 
You can't justify the taking of innocent life no matter how horny you get. Our society has plenty of laws to punish those that act against our collective will despite your opinion of it.
Do you have any idea how many innocent human lives are killed each time you brush your teeth? Time to start firebombing dentists' offices, right?

If you dont want to have children dont get pregnant. Its pretty simple with our without my view on it.
If you don't want to be in a automobile collision, don't ride in automobiles.

Do you walk everywhere you go?
 
You can't justify the taking of innocent life no matter how horny you get. Our society has plenty of laws to punish those that act against our collective will despite your opinion of it.

If you dont want to have children dont get pregnant. Its pretty simple with our without my view on it.

I guess I just did. :awe:

That's not the point though. This isn't about being horny, it's about human behavior. The fact is that people who don't want to or aren't fit to have children become pregnant.

While the thought that we could change human behavior is nice, it is unrealistic. Sex is an instinct, not just a mere whimsical want. There is a reason people risk everything for it. It's an instinct that is stronger than the strongest and most addictive drugs. Humans are emotion driven, and humans make mistakes. That's just a fact of life.

As humans and perhaps more importantly as an advanced society, we have the ability to fix this problem medically and scientifically rather than say "Too bad, so sad.".. which in my sincere opinion is a much greater evil than "taking a life" that shouldn't have come to exist in the first place. It's really no different than the advancement of contraceptives. It's the next logical step.

Can you argue that the world would be a worse place if everyone had children only when they were ready and willing? Because they have the choice to do so without being ridiculed, or worse - because it's against the law? And for what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Pro-choice makes positive contributions to the world. Pro-life creates the exact problems that society could do without.

In the grand scheme of things, losing an embryo of all things is absolutely meaningless. It has no more of a negative impact on the world than throwing a sponge into the microwave. Harsh? Maybe. True? Absolutely.
 
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I guess I just did. :awe:

That's not the point though. This isn't about being horny, it's about human behavior. The fact is that people who don't want to or aren't fit to have children become pregnant.

While the thought that we could change human behavior is nice, it is unrealistic. Sex is an instinct, not just a mere whimsical want. There is a reason people risk everything for it. It's an instinct that is stronger than the strongest and most addictive drugs. Humans are emotion driven, and humans make mistakes. That's just a fact of life.

As humans and perhaps more importantly as an advanced society, we have the ability to fix this problem medically and scientifically rather than say "Too bad, so sad.".. which in my sincere opinion is a much greater evil than "taking a life" that shouldn't have come to exist in the first place. It's really no different than the advancement of contraceptives. It's the next logical step.

Can you argue that the world would be a worse place if everyone had children only when they were ready and willing? Because they have the choice to do so without being ridiculed, or worse - because it's against the law? And for what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Pro-choice makes positive contributions to the world. Pro-life creates the exact problems that society could do without.

In the grand scheme of things, losing an embryo of all things is absolutely meaningless. It has no more of a negative impact on the world than throwing a sponge into the microwave. Harsh? Maybe. True? Absolutely.

Actually, ELI, with all due respect.... the thread was about the absurdity of the image's captions, not it's stance on abortion.
 
It's the 21st century and people still want to punish women for their horrible sins of having sex... to appease their sky king. ugh.


I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
It's the 21st century and people still want to punish women for their horrible sins of having sex... to appease their sky king. ugh.


I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

It sounds like Titan might just be the moon for you... considering the stance of one of our posters.
 
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