Studying 14-16 hours a day for the Chinese SAT's?

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Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: Pepsei
it's not just china, taiwan, japan..etc have similar tests like this. can anyone verify if south korea's too?

college is very difficult to get into in japan and taiwan, if you don't make it, you have to wait another year to take the test. unlike the states, hell, i got a shitty 1200 (out of 1600) back in the 1988 and i had a handful of choices.

The situation is the same in S Korea. Students spend their high school years stressing over and studying for their SAT.

Yeah well we Asian Americans spend high school years stressing over SATs. I can say it paid off though. I wish I carried my HS work ethic into college though.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Yes it does make sense. The SATs are a test of how hard you're willing to work. If you put the time and effort in, you can easily get a good grade. Now there are students who don't put the work in and rely on prior knowledge, and they still get a good grade, but that just shows that they retained the information they needed to succeed from high school courses.

In your case, you didn't study for the SATs and you did horribly. However, in college, I'm guessing you made at least a small effort in preparing for your classes, which should explain the good grades.

buddy of mine didn't know shit, never really knew shit, took several bong hits an hour or so before he was supposed to take the SAT (forgot about it), sauntered in and got a 1400.

Explain that shit.
 

TridenT

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Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

That's such a narrow view of things.

The great engineers / mathematics pioneers have always had creativity. Countries like China and India make it hard to follow your dreams, and cut so many talented people who never had a chance.

We also have twice the college enrollment of China as well in case you were curious.

I said one day... not right now...
 

miketheidiot

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Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.

as always, your posts are ignorant.
 

miketheidiot

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Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: mcmilljb
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Is it safe to say you studied and prepared for tests in college?

I'm surprised people in the US honestly think you can do well on the SAT without preparing and *gasp* studying. You study for tests in a class, why not for the SAT?

if you can't do reasonably well on the sat without studying, you don't belong in college.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

we also don't have the need for engineers that they do either, our country is already well developed and industrialized. China and india for that matter probably have too many engineers.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

we also don't have the need for engineers that they do either, our country is already well developed and industrialized. China and india for that matter probably have too many engineers.

so horribly wrong it's not even funny. america is hurting for scientists and engineers on all fronts. the government will literally give you tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship awards as a science/math/engineering major. there's only one way to stay on top of the technological food chain, and producing rappers, wanna-be pop stars, and "reality" TV is NOT how you do it.
 

Hacp

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Yes it does make sense. The SATs are a test of how hard you're willing to work. If you put the time and effort in, you can easily get a good grade. Now there are students who don't put the work in and rely on prior knowledge, and they still get a good grade, but that just shows that they retained the information they needed to succeed from high school courses.

In your case, you didn't study for the SATs and you did horribly. However, in college, I'm guessing you made at least a small effort in preparing for your classes, which should explain the good grades.

buddy of mine didn't know shit, never really knew shit, took several bong hits an hour or so before he was supposed to take the SAT (forgot about it), sauntered in and got a 1400.

Explain that shit.

Anyone can come up with these highly exaggerated stories. He either knew his shit, or he didn't.
 

Hacp

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

we also don't have the need for engineers that they do either, our country is already well developed and industrialized. China and india for that matter probably have too many engineers.

so horribly wrong it's not even funny. america is hurting for scientists and engineers on all fronts. the government will literally give you tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship awards as a science/math/engineering major. there's only one way to stay on top of the technological food chain, and producing rappers, wanna-be pop stars, and "reality" TV is NOT how you do it.

You mean those physics Phds who earn 40k a year doing their postdocs?
 

Elbryn

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Sep 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

we also don't have the need for engineers that they do either, our country is already well developed and industrialized. China and india for that matter probably have too many engineers.

so horribly wrong it's not even funny. america is hurting for scientists and engineers on all fronts. the government will literally give you tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship awards as a science/math/engineering major. there's only one way to stay on top of the technological food chain, and producing rappers, wanna-be pop stars, and "reality" TV is NOT how you do it.

You mean those physics Phds who earn 40k a year doing their postdocs?

or how about those medical physicists PHD's that after passing boards make 140k starting?
 

bobsmith1492

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ACTs and SATs only test people on how well they can take tests. I don't see how studying so much could ever make a difference other than the grammar part and some of the math; once you know the concepts of math and practice some, the test is easy. Once you know the rules of grammar, the test is easy. Once you know the fundamentals of science the test is easy (unless in China you have to know pi to a hundred digits, all the constants, all the molecular structures and whatnot but that's obviously meaningless since they can just be looked up).

Essentially I'm saying that I don't believe standardized tests are all that useful. Full disclosure: I got 34 on the ACT.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Maybe because you did the homework in college?

China is going to own us one day... China and India... They will eventually screw us because they will have so many engineers.

we also don't have the need for engineers that they do either, our country is already well developed and industrialized. China and india for that matter probably have too many engineers.

so horribly wrong it's not even funny. america is hurting for scientists and engineers on all fronts. the government will literally give you tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship awards as a science/math/engineering major. there's only one way to stay on top of the technological food chain, and producing rappers, wanna-be pop stars, and "reality" TV is NOT how you do it.

You mean those physics Phds who earn 40k a year doing their postdocs?

welcome to academia. i know a Chem-E making 80k/year right out of graduation in the private sector with only a BS.

those physicists who earn 40k/year at postdocs eventually get big pay bumps. you think national labs pay peanuts?