Studying 14-16 hours a day for the Chinese SAT's?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06...m.html?no_interstitial

China?s College Entry Test Is an Obsession

For the past year, Liu Qichao has focused on one thing, and only one thing: the gao kao, or the high test.
Fourteen to 16 hours a day, he studied for the college entrance examination, which this year will determine the fate of more than 10 million Chinese students. He took one day off every three weeks.

He was still carrying his textbook from room to room last Sunday morning before leaving for the exam site, still reviewing materials during the lunch break, still hard at work Sunday night, preparing for Part 2 of the exam that Monday.

?I want to study until the last minute,? he said. ?I really hope to be successful.?

China may be changing at head-twirling speed, but the ritual of the gao kao (pronounced gow kow) remains as immutable as chopsticks. One Chinese saying compares the exam to a stampede of ?a thousand soldiers and 10 horses across a single log bridge.?

The Chinese test is in some ways like the American SAT, except that it lasts more than twice as long. The nine-hour test is offered just once a year and is the sole determinant for admission to virtually all Chinese colleges and universities. About three in five students make the cut.

Families pull out all the stops to optimize their children?s scores. In Sichuan Province in southwestern China, students studied in a hospital, hooked up to oxygen containers, in hopes of improving their concentration.

Some girls take contraceptives so they will not get their periods during the exam. Some well-off parents dangle the promise of fabulous rewards for offspring whose scores get them into a top-ranked university: parties, 100,000 renminbi in cash, or about $14,600, or better.


?My father even promised me, if I get into a college like Nankai University in Tianjin, ?I?ll give you a prize, an Audi,? ? said Chen Qiong, a 17-year-old girl taking the exam in Beijing.

Outside the exam sites, parents keep vigil for hours, as anxious as husbands waiting for their wives to give birth. A tardy arrival is disastrous. One student who arrived four minutes late in 2007 was turned away, even though she and her mother knelt before the exam proctor, begging for leniency.

Cheating is increasingly sophisticated. One group of parents last year outfitted their children with tiny earpieces, persuaded a teacher to fax them the questions and then transmitted the answers by cellphone. Another father equipped a student with a miniscanner and had nine teachers on standby to provide the answers. In all, 2,645 cheaters were caught last year.

Critics complain that the gao kao illustrates the flaws in an education system that stresses memorization over independent thinking and creativity. Educators also say that rural students are at a disadvantage and that the quality of higher education has been sacrificed for quantity.

But the national obsession with the test also indicates progress. Despite a slight drop in registration this year ? the first decline in seven years ? five million more students signed up for the test than did so in 2002.

China now has more than 1,900 institutions of higher learning, nearly double the number in 2000. Close to 19 million students are enrolled, a sixfold jump in one decade.

Liu Qichao, 19, a big-boned student with careful habits, plans to be the first in his family to go to college. ?There just were not a lot of universities then,? said his father, Liu Jie, who graduated from high school in 1980 and sells textile machinery. His son harbors hopes of getting into one of China?s top universities.

But the whole family was shaken by the results of his first try at the gao kao last June.

The night before the exam, he lingered at his parents? bedside, unable to sleep for hours. ?I was so nervous during the exam my mind went blank,? he said. He scored 432 points out of a possible 750, too low to be admitted even to a second-tier institution.

Silence reigned in the house for days afterward. ?My mother was very angry,? he said. ?She said, ?All these years of raising you and washing your clothes and cooking for you, and you earn such a bad score.?

?I cried for half a month.?

Then the family arrived at a new plan: He would enroll in a military-style boarding school in Tianjin, devoting himself exclusively to test preparation, and retake the test this June.

Despite the annual school fee of 38,500 renminbi (about $5,640) ? well above the average annual income for a Chinese family ? he had plenty of company.

One of his classmates, Li Yiran, a cheerful 18-year-old, estimated that more than one-fourth of the seniors at their secondary school, Yangcun No. 1 Middle School, were ?restudy? students.

Ms. Li said she learned the hard way about the school?s strict regimen. When her cellphone rang in class one day, the teacher smashed it against the radiator. Classes continue for three weeks straight, barely interrupted by a one-day break.

Days after most of their classmates left for home, Mr. Liu and Ms. Li were still holed up last week in their classrooms. Mr. Liu?s wrist was bruised from pressing the edge of his blue metal desk, piled with a foot-high stack of textbooks.

Ms. Li?s breakfast was a favorite among test-takers: a bread stick next to two eggs, symbolizing a 100 percent score.

Hours after they finished the test on Monday, both students had collected the answers from the district education bureau and begun the laborious process, with the help of their teachers, of estimating their scores.

Mr. Liu calculated that his score leaped by more than 100 points over last year?s dismal performance. But he was still downcast, uncertain whether he would make the cutoff to apply to top-tier universities. The cutoff mark can vary by an applicant?s place of residence and ethnicity.

Ms. Li, on the other hand, was exhilarated by her estimate of 482.5, figuring it was probably high enough for admittance to a college of the second rank.

By Wednesday evening, both were buoyed by news of the cutoff scores for their district. His estimated mark was well above the one needed to apply to first-tier schools, and hers was a solid five points above the notch for the second tier.

Before the test, Ms. Li?s aunt warned her that this was her last chance for a college degree. Even if she knelt before her mother and begged, her aunt said, her mother would refuse to let her take the test again.


But Ms. Li, a hardened veteran of not one but two gao kao ordeals, had a ready retort: ?Come on. Even if my mother kneels down before me, I will refuse to take this test again.?






I think I studied for the SAT's like a couple of hours.



 

imported_Champ

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the pictures of the hospital was insane...they are taking this way too far

I can't believe that this is physically or mentally healthy
 

imported_Imp

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The great "if you do well in school, you'll succeed" myth continues on.


Originally posted by: Champ
the pictures of the hospital was insane...they are taking this way too far

I can't believe that this is physically or mentally healthy

Don't know if it's underreported in the west, but out of China, you always hear stories of kids who commit the suicide cause they failed a test, or didn't get an A. That's culture for you.
 

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Originally posted by: techs
Ms. Li said she learned the hard way about the school?s strict regimen. When her cellphone rang in class one day, the teacher smashed it against the radiator. Classes continue for three weeks straight, barely interrupted by a one-day break.

I think I might have to re-think my previous dislike of this glorious and progressive country's advanced pedagogical methods! :p
 

Dari

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It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.

They are producers because labor is relatively abundant thus cheap compared to here.
 
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: techs
Ms. Li said she learned the hard way about the school?s strict regimen. When her cellphone rang in class one day, the teacher smashed it against the radiator. Classes continue for three weeks straight, barely interrupted by a one-day break.

I think I might have to re-think my previous dislike of this glorious and progressive country's advanced pedagogical methods! :p

This. Teachers here have to start employing this method.
 

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Originally posted by: Imp
Don't know if it's underreported in the west, but out of China, you always hear stories of kids who commit the suicide cause they failed a test, or didn't get an A. That's culture for you.
Darwin Award. By the way, this happens in the US also.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.

Why are we buying stuffs from China? Why are we buying stuffs more than we can afford? Why the US government keeps on borrowing money from China and other Asian countries?
 

beat mania

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What's the point of cheating to get into college? If you're stupid you're not going to graduate anyway.

Or are they planning on cheating for 4 more years?
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: beat mania
What's the point of cheating to get into college? If you're stupid you're not going to graduate anyway.

Or are they planning on cheating for 4 more years?

It's not an aptitude cut off, it's a merti based cut off.

So let's the best college only takes students from the 99th percentile, but osmeone who would naturally test into the 95th could more than hack it in that school, it's just that he doesnt have the test scores to prove it. So he cheats and gets in and does fine at the university...

it's pretty simple why theyre cheating.
 

Regs

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I never put much stock into SAT scores. All it shows is the one's ability to retain information for more than a couple of months. SATs are nothing more than another tool of opportunity used by universities to effectively bolster their rankings and prestige by rejecting a larger pool of students. And if you think universities make their money off of tuitions, then I also think you believe Santa Claus.

Come on, they rank schools now based on such things like how big their library is. The sad part is most of these high ranking schools don't even teach most of the broad crap they stuff in SATs. Good luck finding a professor who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the Civil War, modern economics or US Constitutional Law. Why? Because they've been done a million times before!! And good luck depending on the board of trustees to tell these professors to ship off. I'm sure they'll love to tell their professors who bring in millions of dollars worth of grants to join their competition.

The education system grows more corrupt everyday just like wall street. SATs are needed for general aptitude, but not their willingness to learn. Though today they are viewed as just another statistic.
 

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China is fucking awesome and insane at the same time. What the hell is on these exams anyway? Anyone have samples?
 

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Originally posted by: Regs
The sad part is most of these high ranking schools don't even teach most of the broad crap they stuff in SATs. Good luck finding a professor who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the Civil War, modern economics or US Constitutional Law.

None of those are on the SAT's though.
 

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.

They are producers because labor is relatively abundant thus cheap compared to here.

Yep, you do not need to score high on the SAT to work in a sweatshop... slaving away your days making cheap goods for consumers.
 

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I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: Dari
It's also why all those countries over there are creditor nations and we are in huge debt.

They study so much, they don't have time to go shopping with their credit cards?

They are producers, we are consumers.

They are producers because labor is relatively abundant thus cheap compared to here.

Yep, you do not need to score high on the SAT to work in a sweatshop... slaving away your days making cheap goods for consumers.

I was talking about Japan, China, South Korea, and Taiwan. They are all creditor nations.
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Regs
The sad part is most of these high ranking schools don't even teach most of the broad crap they stuff in SATs. Good luck finding a professor who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the Civil War, modern economics or US Constitutional Law.

None of those are on the SAT's though.

I just wanted an excuse to rant and self own myself.
 

mcmilljb

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Originally posted by: nerdress
I don't think I studied for the SAT's, which would probably explain my awful score BOTH times I took it.

And then I go ahead and ace classes in college..does this make any sense?

Is it safe to say you studied and prepared for tests in college?

I'm surprised people in the US honestly think you can do well on the SAT without preparing and *gasp* studying. You study for tests in a class, why not for the SAT?