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Study: Smoking ban cuts heart attacks

BDawg

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In Helena, Montana, a smoking ban shows reduced heart attacks for all people, not just smokers. When enforcement of the ban stopped, heart attack numbers increased to near their previous level.
 
Thank God Florida is banning smoking in restaurants!

My dad is at 'prime heart-attack age' and I do not want him to have one. He has high blood pressure and a stressful job.. Last thing he needs is a bunch of smoke in his face.

If you smoke, then smoke in your own box. I shouldn't ever have to breathe that 'non air'. I'm sick of having to pry my contacts off my eyes and throw them away before the two weeks because the smoke in the air has dried them out. Smoking affects everyone and there is no otherwise. If you smoke, you're hurting other people unless you do it in isolation.
 
Originally posted by: Intake77
police states are cool


and no... i'm not a smoker.

How is that a police state? They are banning a toxic product that has been proven to cause health problems and even death.
 
Originally posted by: Intake77
police states are cool


and no... i'm not a smoker.

Last I checked, the residents of Florida VOTED for it to be banned. It's not like some politician with an axe to grind pushed it through. The people of the state voiced their opinion, and the majority won.

At least that is how I interpreted how the banning came to be in Florida.
 
Originally posted by: bozack
they should ban busses then to since they pollute far more than smoke from cigarettes

They should also ban grills. Why? because when you cook steak on a grill, and burn it... that burnt part gives you cancer. Maybe they should just ban steak in general. Wait... I like steak. But it'll give me cancer. Oh no, what's a brotha' to do?
 
the difference between cigarettes and all other products mentioned is this, cigarettes remain the only product on the market that if used in the manner intended will kill you.

The tobacco companies dumped billions into politicians laps to keep control out of the FDA's hand, "natural product", our gov (US) took the money and looked the other way. Now that they are being held liable, who gets the payoff? The citizens damaged by the product? Nope the govt.....

Just BAN them completely... and BTW I am a smoker and would love to see this happen.
 
Last I checked there were no busses or grills standing around the front entrances of public buildings and workplaces creating a cloud of death that nonsmokers must be forced to walk through if they want to get into the building. If I'm in my car and a bus is creating too much smoke, I can roll up my windows to prevent myself from breathing in that smoke and I also don't stand around breathing in smoke from a barbeque all the time. And forget the fact that we're exposed to people's cigarette smokes all the time, but not everyone lugs around a barbeque as they're walking causing other people to inhale their smoke.

I have no problem with people smoking--it's their right to kill themselves, but I shouldn't be forced to breath in their habit either. Smoke away from other people.
 
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....

the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.
 
From the article:
"They can say what they like. The bottom line is, the data speaks for itself. We don't have to apologize for our particular bias," Shepard said.

There is no data presented, it does not state who was polled, when they were polled, or how they were polled.
Anyone can fake stats to support a particular point of view.
 
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....

the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.

The point of this article is the second hand smoke was doing something negative. Banning smoking reduced heart attack numbers for smokers and non-smokers alike. If you want to smoke, fine. Do it in your own car or house.
 
the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.

Oh really? Any citations? Here's something from the journal Chest, September 2002:

OBJECTIVE: The effects of passive smoke exposure on respiratory health are still under debate. Therefore, we examined the risk of respiratory symptoms related to passive smoke exposure among German adults within the European Community Respiratory Health Survey. METHODS: The questionnaire data of the population-based sample (n = 1,890) were analyzed. Multiple logistic regression models were carried out for current asthma (asthma symptoms or medication), chronic bronchitis (cough with phlegm for > or = 3 months per year), and wheezing as dependent variables, and self-reported exposure to passive smoke at home and at the workplace as independent variables after adjusting for city, age, gender, active smoking, and socioeconomic status as well as occupational exposure to dusts and/or gases. RESULTS: The relative odds for chronic bronchitis were significantly higher in subjects reporting involuntary tobacco smoke exposure in the workplace (odds ratio [OR], 1.90; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.16 to 3.11). Likewise, the adjusted OR for asthma was slightly elevated (OR, 1.51; 95% CI, 0.99 to 2.32). The risk of chronic bronchitis (OR, 3.07; 95% CI, 1.56 to 6.06), asthma (OR, 2.06; 95% CI, 1.07 to 3.97), and wheezing (OR, 2.12; 95% CI, 1.25 to 3.58) increased significantly with a daily exposure of > 8 h. CONCLUSION: The control of passive smoke exposure in the workplace might reduce the risk of respiratory symptoms independently of exposure to other airborne contaminants.
 
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....

the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.

Eliminate the source of the problem & you don't need to filter the air. Plus, without extreme circulation you're not going to get the smoke out fast enough to avoid damage.

Viper GTS
 
Big surprise there 😉

Smoking has been banned from bars and restaurants (every public place actually) here for a while. Good riddance.
 
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....
so I can take a skunk to work and have him spray everything and if people dont like it then they cant just go outside.. cool theory
rolleye.gif
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....

the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.

Eliminate the source of the problem & you don't need to filter the air. Plus, without extreme circulation you're not going to get the smoke out fast enough to avoid damage.

Viper GTS

the difference between cigarettes and all other products mentioned is this, cigarettes remain the only product on the market that if used in the manner intended will kill you.

The tobacco companies dumped billions into politicians laps to keep control out of the FDA's hand, "natural product", our gov (US) took the money and looked the other way. Now that they are being held liable, who gets the payoff? The citizens damaged by the product? Nope the govt.....

Just BAN them completely... and BTW I am a smoker and would love to see this happen
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....
so I can take a skunk to work and have him spray everything and if people dont like it then they cant just go outside.. cool theory
rolleye.gif

no the theory that you need to protect the fresh air, then herd the smokers where the fresh air lives is rather ironic, that was my point.
 
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Alistar7
thats one apsect of the anti-smoking crusade Idon't understand, if you want fresh air, YOU go outside.... far easier to fliter smoke in a building....

the bogus science detailing the effects of second hand smoke have been debunked thoroughly BTW, especially the contention it is even more harmfull than smoking.

The point of this article is the second hand smoke was doing something negative. Banning smoking reduced heart attack numbers for smokers and non-smokers alike. If you want to smoke, fine. Do it in your own car or house.

Well I'm allergic to certain perfumes, they do cause a serious health risk for me, so you can't wear them in public, ok?
 
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