Study shows why exercise boosts brainpower

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moshquerade

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Originally posted by: dawza
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dawza
Body Building != Cardiac Exercise

Anaerobic Training does nothing but build muscle. Aside from physical stress, there is no effect on the body (ie Oxygen supply)

Oh really? I suppose the reductions in blood pressure and improvements in insulin sensitivity, plasma lipids, and markers of oxidative stress have nothing to do with the body or the cardiovascular system?

There are many, many studies which have demonstrated a significant improvement in VO2 max as a result of resistance training, as well as other forms of anaerobic exercise (i.e. high-intensity interval training). I can provide references if you like.

Do a heavy set of squats or sprint 50m, and tell me that you do not feel any effects on your cardiac system.

Sprinting is not Anaerobic. And while the effects of anaerobic exercise may be beneficial, I still doubt they effect the entire body as much as cardio.

In any case, that's why I enjoy rowing. Best of both worlds :)


What activities, then, would you consider to be anaerobic?
sprinting is an anaerobic exercise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_exercise
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell

? Exercise builds new brain cells in a region linked with memory and memory loss

Dang maybe that is why my memory isn't all that great - most exercise I get is wallking to class each day. That and my fingers on my keyboard.

No I'm not a fat and lazy PC nerd, just a skinny 130lb lazy PC nerd :p
 

TheTony

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:light:Aerobic excerise = increased heartrate + respiration = more oxygen to brain = healthy brain?
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: dawza
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dawza
Body Building != Cardiac Exercise

Anaerobic Training does nothing but build muscle. Aside from physical stress, there is no effect on the body (ie Oxygen supply)

Oh really? I suppose the reductions in blood pressure and improvements in insulin sensitivity, plasma lipids, and markers of oxidative stress have nothing to do with the body or the cardiovascular system?

There are many, many studies which have demonstrated a significant improvement in VO2 max as a result of resistance training, as well as other forms of anaerobic exercise (i.e. high-intensity interval training). I can provide references if you like.

Do a heavy set of squats or sprint 50m, and tell me that you do not feel any effects on your cardiac system.

Sprinting is not Anaerobic. And while the effects of anaerobic exercise may be beneficial, I still doubt they effect the entire body as much as cardio.

In any case, that's why I enjoy rowing. Best of both worlds :)


What activities, then, would you consider to be anaerobic?
sprinting is an anaerobic exercise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_exercise

I stand corrected.

That article sums up my definition of anaerobic exercise simply enough. Any exercise that doesn't require much in the way of oxygen.

As to my previous point about the extent to which each effects the body, I know a guy who is incredibly ripped compared to me but he doesn't do any cardio. He challenged me to a rowing competition once. He lasted about 20 minutes before exhaustion, I lasted a good 50 min before stopping at about 1 hour. We were both at full resistance.

On the other hand, I've tried weight lifting, and while he can last a lot longer then I can, I've never become as fully exhausted as I've been after a good session of rowing. Weight raining gave me sore muscles in the areas where I trained, but no full-body exhaustion.

In the meantime I'll count on Rowing and Krav Maga Lessons to give me decent amount of anaerobic strength. I'm not joining the army or football team anytime soon, so I don't really see the point of weight training beyond what I need for a good energy level.
 

marincounty

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I say this study is complete bull. Why? My examples: GWB, Arnold, Sylvester Stallone.
So you are saying if they didn't work out, these guys would be even dumber?
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: marincounty
I say this study is complete bull. Why? My examples: GWB, Arnold, Sylvester Stallone.
So you are saying if they didn't work out, these guys would be even dumber?

GWB and Arnold and others are actually pretty intelligent people on the whole (you have to be to get to their station). The fact that they're portrayed as dumb by the media doesn't mean they are. Don't judge until you've met the person.

IE: Stalin was portrayed as dumb in the Cold War. He certainly was a lot of things, but dumb wasn't one of them. Same with Hitler.
 

EGGO

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So the jocks have pretty much hit as high as their brainpower will let them while the fat geeks have super-über-dormant-potential dwelling inside them?
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: marincounty
I say this study is complete bull. Why? My examples: GWB, Arnold, Sylvester Stallone.
So you are saying if they didn't work out, these guys would be even dumber?

Sylvester stallone wrote or co-wrote two incredibly successful movie franchises, Rocky and Rambo. There's no way he can be classified as dumb.


I work out 4-5 times a week so I didn't know what to pick in the poll.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Pick up chrome, put it down and then pick it up again? Never.

Strong cardio activities like full court basketball, tennis or raquetball? A couple of times weekly.
 

SWScorch

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Damn, son, I must have been really stupid before I started running, because I run 6-12 miles every day and I'm still dumb as a bag of marbles....
 

sponge008

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Sprinting is various percents aerobic/anaerobic depending on length, I believe a 50m sprint is 89% anaerobic, a 100m is 71% if I remember right. It get really aerobic beyond 200m.

Addition: Don't run anything longer than a mile unless you want to look more like a marathon runner than a bodybuilder.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: txrandom
Why are jocks usually dumb?
what makes someone a jock? someone who is athletic? someone who is built?

i don't see where muscular athletic people are any dumber than the gen population, in fact, i'll venture they are above average in intelligence on the whole.

I think you're confusing intelligence capacity with the need to give a sh!t about intelligence in the first place.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
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? Exercise builds new brain cells in a region linked with memory and memory loss
? Mice grew new cells in area known to be affected in age-related memory decline
? MRIs showed similar cell growth in human brains after exercise

A completely ridiculous article:

A) No control group. (At least according the the CNN article) This already makes it absurd.

B) Building new brains cells does not necessarily mean brainpower is boosted.

They didn't do any sort of before and after memory or cognition testing. For all they know, the excercise damaged otherwise healthy cells, and new ones were forced to be produced in their place.

They made massive assumptions and jumped across chasms to reach conclusions. Perhaps I'll check out the actual paper tomorrow if I can find it, to see what the actual paper says, but at the very least, it's BS journalism.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: txrandom
Why are jocks usually dumb?
what makes someone a jock? someone who is athletic? someone who is built?

i don't see where muscular athletic people are any dumber than the gen population, in fact, i'll venture they are above average in intelligence on the whole.

The National IQ test in the Netherlands always asks several groups of people to participate. Bodybuilders scored under average.

They scored about 20 points lower than the canabis smokers, who had just smoked canabis before the show, and also been tested prior to that. Without having used canabis they scored about 5-10 points lower than with :confused:
(Probably because of being more relaxed after smoking)

I would think that the Bodybuilders didn't spend any time working on their brainpower, even if they do have more brain cells from working out. They spend almost all of their time just building more muscle.
 

BD2003

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It'd be quite a bit more interesting if they compared blood flow between someone who was studying hard, someone who was working out hard, someone doing both at the same time, and someone who was staring at a wall.

Even if the study is to be taken seriously and working out produces more blood flow in that region, it could certainly be that studying produces even MORE blood flow than working out. Most intellectuals that I know are the most inactive people in the world.

Keep in mind our overall knowledge about memory processes is already quite limited, so to stretch it as far as actually claiming that "Working out boosts brainpower" is quite a bit retarded.
 

JayHu

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I'm on the fence for this issue.
I spend time with a lot of athletes and I'd say that on the whole they're no different than any other group of people. There are smart ones and there are not so smart ones.
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Damn, son, I must have been really stupid before I started running, because I run 6-12 miles every day and I'm still dumb as a bag of marbles....

rofl
 

marincounty

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: marincounty
I say this study is complete bull. Why? My examples: GWB, Arnold, Sylvester Stallone.
So you are saying if they didn't work out, these guys would be even dumber?

Sylvester stallone wrote or co-wrote two incredibly successful movie franchises, Rocky and Rambo. There's no way he can be classified as dumb.


I work out 4-5 times a week so I didn't know what to pick in the poll.

Oh really? Stallone charged with banned hormone
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: marincounty
I say this study is complete bull. Why? My examples: GWB, Arnold, Sylvester Stallone.
So you are saying if they didn't work out, these guys would be even dumber?

Sylvester stallone wrote or co-wrote two incredibly successful movie franchises, Rocky and Rambo. There's no way he can be classified as dumb.


I work out 4-5 times a week so I didn't know what to pick in the poll.

Oh really? Stallone charged with banned hormone

HGH is widely regarded as a kind of anti-aging drug. It does very little to build muscle. Not like roids.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Now if only exercise weren't mind-numbingly boring.

It's only boring until you get in the zone. Then you're mind doesn't have enough physical resources to process that it's boring.

If your lucid enough to think of doing other things, your not pushing your limits IMO.