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Study: kids no safer in SUVs than cars

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dullard

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CNN Link.

Researchers said the findings dispel the bigger-equals-safer myth that has helped fuel the growing popularity of SUVs among families...

The study, which Durbin called the first on SUVs and child safety, was sponsored by Partners for Child Passenger Safety, a research project of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and the world's largest insurer, Bloomington-based State Farm Insurance Co...

The researchers looked at accidents involving nearly 4,000 children under age 16 between 2000 and 2003, and found child injury rates of about 1.7 percent in both cars and SUVs. The study examined only 1998 or newer cars and SUVs with second-generation air bags...

The study found that the extra weight of SUVs enhanced safety, reducing the risk of injury by more than a third.

But that was offset by findings that SUVs were more than twice as likely as cars to roll over in crashes.

Children in rollovers were three times more likely to be seriously injured than those in non-rollover accidents, according to the study.
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I'd like to say again on this board, there is no evidence that SUVs are safer. Please forget that silly notion. More mass does NOT equal safer. However, smart location of the mass does relate to safety. Thus, theoretically, a heavy SUV could be safer, but they aren't designed for that.
 
well, next time your kids get hit in a tinny jap hatchback by someone in a landcruiser, come back and tell us that 😛
 
I still maintain that the best piece of saftey equipment in a vehicle is what is sitting in the driver's seat.
 
Originally posted by: dug777
well, next time your kids get hit in a tinny jap hatchback by someone in a landcruiser, come back and tell us that 😛
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I'd rather be in a tiny Japanese hatchback than an older F-150.

Honestly though, safety in vehicles is based on so many more things than size.
 
Duh indeed. Teenagers are new at driving and are more prone to doing stupid and/or irresponsible things while driving. Insurance companies knew this long before this little study. That's why it costs an arm and a leg to insure a teen driver.

Still, if I were in a crash, I'd rather be in something like an SUV than in a tiny two door hatchback.
 
Originally posted by: meisrussian
Yep, I heard that SUVs flip over much easier than other cars.
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well thats obvious is it not? The problem being that people are asshats and incapable of understanding that they are a totally different vehicle to a sedan, and should be driven as such...

i've never seen a 4WD flipped in a crash involving another vehicle tho...
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Teenagers are new at driving and are more prone to doing stupid and/or irresponsible things while driving.
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The study said nothing about who was driving. I'd assume the % of teenagers driving was about the same for cars and SUVs in the study. But the article didn't mention it.

The article was about kids as passengers.
 
I liked the world better when everythign was "do at your own risk." Everything is safety this safety that. Everythign now has to be child, idiot, retard, and dumass proof.

when my parents where babies.. if they fell down the steps... they learned a good painful valuable lesson. Stay away from the steps. They werent killed or severely injured. Now we have all these baby gates and crap.

I soon expect with this new trend... Someone is going to have to invent the suicide proof knife, or else some knife manufacturer is going to get sued.

Cars, Planes, Rockets, and space shuttles are all unsafe. Travel at your own risk folks.
 
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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asshat. How about being able to go offroad? Yeah you can do that in your ****** minvan :roll:

nominated for the most inane and retarded comment ever. tool.

EDIT: Never mind the load capacity and tow-ratings either :roll:
 
Nearly every time I've seen a crash between a SUV and a small car, at any considerable speed and slight angle, the civic had one side of it all tore up, and the SUV was in mostly one piece - lying on its side with cracked glass everywhere.
 
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: loic2003
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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asshat. How about being able to go offroad? Yeah you can do that in your ****** minvan :roll:

nominated for the most inane and retarded comment ever. tool.

EDIT: Never mind the load capacity and tow-ratings either :roll:
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Listen, dry your tears and put your packet of mini kleenex back in your purse. Naturally, if you've got a genuine need for one of these vehicles (that do have specific roles) then yes, these are the tools for the job. However, unless you've been living on mars for the past 20 years, you'll have noticed lots of small women (who never, ever go off road, tow, or drive up mountains) driving these huge lumbering beasts around town with 2 kids in the back. These people buy these vehicles as they believe they are safer, and the vehicle gives them a feeling of power. I figured it was patently obvious it was these people to which I was referring, but thanks for informing me that in future I'll really have to spell everything out in fear that some won't figure some basic point out for themselves.

In essence, these are ----->OFF-ROAD<----- vehicles and should be used as such. Using them as an onroad vehicle to drive your kids to school is not the intended purpose of these vehicles.

Write me back if any of the above needs further clarification.:beer:
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: loic2003
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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asshat. How about being able to go offroad? Yeah you can do that in your ****** minvan :roll:

nominated for the most inane and retarded comment ever. tool.

EDIT: Never mind the load capacity and tow-ratings either :roll:
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Listen, dry your tears and put your packet of mini kleenex back in your purse. Naturally, if you've got a genuine need for one of these vehicles (that do have specific roles) then yes, these are the tools for the job. However, unless you've been living on mars for the past 20 years, you'll have noticed lots of small women (who never, ever go off road, tow, or drive up mountains) driving these huge lumbering beasts around town with 2 kids in the back. These people buy these vehicles as they believe they are safer, and the the vehicle gives them a feeling of power. I figured it was patently obvious is was these people to which I was referring, but thanks for informing me that in future I'll really have to spell everything out in fear that some won't figure some basic point out for themselves.

In essence, these are ----->OFF-ROAD<----- vehicles and should be used as such. Using them as an onroad vehicle to drive your kids to school is not the intended purpose of these vehicles.

Write me back if any of the above needs further clarification.:beer:
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none :beer:

the statement above didn't make that clear and i bit 😉
 
I'd rather be in an SUV than the car when the accident happens.

I've had 2 dumbasses cut me off in my SUV, resulting in low speed collisions (20mph or less). One was on her cellphone and just whipped out of a parking lot into traffic (me). The other guy ran a redlight and got clipped. Both cars ended up with the sides of their cars demolished, and the redlight dude also had his bumper ripped clean off.

My license plate was bent in the first one and my fender slightly scratched in the second.

I drive a car to and from work, and only take the SUV to the lumber yard, grocery store, etc. and when carrying passengers. When it comes down to it, the SUV is much safer.
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: loic2003
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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asshat. How about being able to go offroad? Yeah you can do that in your ****** minvan :roll:

nominated for the most inane and retarded comment ever. tool.

EDIT: Never mind the load capacity and tow-ratings either :roll:
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Listen, dry your tears and put your packet of mini kleenex back in your purse. Naturally, if you've got a genuine need for one of these vehicles (that do have specific roles) then yes, these are the tools for the job. However, unless you've been living on mars for the past 20 years, you'll have noticed lots of small women (who never, ever go off road, tow, or drive up mountains) driving these huge lumbering beasts around town with 2 kids in the back. These people buy these vehicles as they believe they are safer, and the vehicle gives them a feeling of power. I figured it was patently obvious it was these people to which I was referring, but thanks for informing me that in future I'll really have to spell everything out in fear that some won't figure some basic point out for themselves.

In essence, these are ----->OFF-ROAD<----- vehicles and should be used as such. Using them as an onroad vehicle to drive your kids to school is not the intended purpose of these vehicles.

Write me back if any of the above needs further clarification.:beer:
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I'd take it a step further as to point out that they don't even offroad well. Do all of those SUV's ship with offroad tires or the regular pep-boy's faire. The majority are "offroaders that can't"...
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: loic2003
Not to mention that SUVs are better at creaming kids if the kid is hit by an SUV. Smaller cars have lower bumpers and dampened bonnets (hoods), SUVs typically have flatter fronts and tougher external parts: great for smashing the brains out through children's ears should they dare venture onto your road...

Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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asshat. How about being able to go offroad? Yeah you can do that in your ****** minvan :roll:

nominated for the most inane and retarded comment ever. tool.

EDIT: Never mind the load capacity and tow-ratings either :roll:
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Listen, dry your tears and put your packet of mini kleenex back in your purse. Naturally, if you've got a genuine need for one of these vehicles (that do have specific roles) then yes, these are the tools for the job. However, unless you've been living on mars for the past 20 years, you'll have noticed lots of small women (who never, ever go off road, tow, or drive up mountains) driving these huge lumbering beasts around town with 2 kids in the back. These people buy these vehicles as they believe they are safer, and the vehicle gives them a feeling of power. I figured it was patently obvious it was these people to which I was referring, but thanks for informing me that in future I'll really have to spell everything out in fear that some won't figure some basic point out for themselves.

In essence, these are ----->OFF-ROAD<----- vehicles and should be used as such. Using them as an onroad vehicle to drive your kids to school is not the intended purpose of these vehicles.

Write me back if any of the above needs further clarification.:beer:
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I'd take it a step further as to point out that they don't even offroad well. Do all of those SUV's ship with offroad tires or the regular pep-boy's faire. The majority are "offroaders that can't"...
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ever heard of toyota? Prado? Landcruiser? Being some of the best stock 4WDs you can buy...how 'bout Jeep?
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Owning a SUV: it's small penis/wanting to feel superior issue.
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Not true. Watch "CRIBS" and see how many black pro athletes and rappers have SUV's
...and you know what they say about black penises...a whole lot bigger than your tiny white penis.
 
access for putting your kid in an SUV / minivan > access for putting your kid in a sedan/coupe

And I don't like the look or feel of minivans.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
access for putting your kid in an SUV / minivan > access for putting your kid in a sedan/coupe

And I don't like the look or feel of minivans.
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as good a reason as any to own the car you choose in a free country i'd say...however the rabid anti-SUV crowd would dispute that.
 
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: rh71
access for putting your kid in an SUV / minivan > access for putting your kid in a sedan/coupe

And I don't like the look or feel of minivans.
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as good a reason as any to own the car you choose in a free country i'd say...however the rabid anti-SUV crowd would dispute that.
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the anti-SUV crowd can bite me... I've had my share of opinions in those threads. They can bring it again if they want.

Off-road ? How about 0-60 in 5 secs for those sports cars ? Yeah I see a lot of people doing that. Idiots (especially loic2003).
 
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