Study finds: circumcision cuts risk

[PlasmaBomb]

next up: A study from british scientists suggests vaccinations could cause autism.

Oh, wait.

that study has been retracted as an elaborate fraud.

*WOOOOOSH*



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[Red Dawn]

Yeah I've always thought it strange how female circumcision is considered mutilation and almost universally condemned, yet male circumcision is still A-OK among many cultures.

I find it stranger that people even argue about circumcision.

 

[bobdole369]

I prefer my (now less disease prone!) purple mushroom head over the anteater look.

 

[Red Dawn]

I know you some of you aren't going to like this, but I am reporting it as written. The findings seems substantial enough to take notice.


http://www.postchronicle.com/news/health/article_212342317.shtml

You get off starting threads about dicks?

 

[kstu]

Yeah I've always thought it strange how female circumcision is considered mutilation and almost universally condemned, yet male circumcision is still A-OK among many cultures.

uh, do you know what female circumcision IS? hint: it's a little more than just snipping off some extra skin.

 

[bobdole369]

Yeah I've always thought it strange how female circumcision is considered mutilation

It's not even close to the same thing. In cultures where this is praticed they often remove the entire clitoris and part of the labia. Its done to deny a female choice and to essentially enslave her to the tribe or the mate that has been chosen for her, by keeping her "pure"

It would be as if they lopped off the last 2 inches of your penis leaving you with a worthless stump.

 

[amddude]

It's not even close to the same thing. In cultures where this is praticed they often remove the entire clitoris and part of the labia. Its done to deny a female choice and to essentially enslave her to the tribe or the mate that has been chosen for her, by keeping her "pure"

It would be as if they lopped off the last 2 inches of your penis leaving you with a worthless stump.

There is more than one kind of FGM, even a basic wiki search can show you that. You are referring to only the most egregious variety.

 

[frostedflakes]

uh, do you know what female circumcision IS? hint: it's a little more than just snipping off some extra skin.

What then is it? The female equivalent would be removing the clitoral hood, which is about as "useless" as the foreskin (although in reality I think both do have biological functions, few parts of our biology are useless).

 

[SP33Demon]

This was pretty much common anecdotal knowledge, not surprising it's now backed by science. Mosh clearly likes her men "clean cut" too. /wink

 

[Codewiz]

there was another study that said circumcision lowered risk for HIV by a significant amount as well.

it seems fairly clear that circumcision lowers the risk of disease transmission ACROSS THE BOARD. i don't know what your issue is regarding understanding this.

I don't know what is so hard for you to read the entire thread prior to posting. Already addressed this......

 

[kstu]

What then is it? The female equivalent would be removing the clitoral hood, which is about as "useless" as the foreskin (although in reality I think both do have biological functions, few parts of our biology are useless).

see bobdole's post just after mine. amddude is correct that there are varying degrees, but generally speaking, female circumcision means removal of the clitoris.

 

[SP33Demon]

If women chop their tits off then Breast Cancer is reduced by 100%.

Funny how people are driven to say some stupid things about something so trivial.

 

[SP33Demon]

Lets see here.

circumcision will lower risk for HIV and herpes risk, yes. However, if you are participating in unprotected sex, circumcision isn't going to protect you. You are going to get infected. You might get away with it once or twice.

So lets see here, cut some skin off OR use a fucking condom. Lets see, condoms are pretty reliable. The other choice isn't. But if you want to cut off a body part off your child, that is your choice. I choose to educate my child in safe sex. Hope he is smart and uses a condom. All the while getting him vaccinated against whatever I can.

You don't live in the real world. Most men aren't going to use condoms if the woman is on birth control.

 

[SunnyD]

You first, mosh. 🙂

 

[frostedflakes]

see bobdole's post just after mine. amddude is correct that there are varying degrees, but generally speaking, female circumcision means removal of the clitoris.

Yeah after further research it does seem there are quite a few practices that fall under female genital mutilation.

I think most people would even agree that removing the clitoral hood from an infant is extreme and unnecessary, though. I mean imagine the reaction parents would receive if they asked their doctor to perform this procedure. And yet, asking them to remove the male equivalent piece of skin is perfectly acceptable.

It just seems so silly to me. Both are equally pointless.

 

[WelshBloke]

You don't live in the real world. Most men aren't going to use condoms if the woman is on birth control.

And if they aren't using condoms then they are eventually going to pick up something nasty, circumcised or not.


The idea of using circumcision as a protection against STD's is just bizarre and it makes me doubt the motivation or qualification of the Doc in the report.

 

[Codewiz]

You don't live in the real world. Most men aren't going to use condoms if the woman is on birth control.

Don't live in the real world? When it comes to sex outside a relationship, you are a retard if you aren't wrapping up.

Now when it comes to monogamous relationships, yeah you have a point. However, I hope you marry someone smart enough that if they are going to cheat on you, they will use protection.

Once again, if you aren't using condoms for casual sex, you are an idiot. Circumcision or not, you are going to get infected eventually......

 

[Muse]

If my dick is clean what does it matter if I have a little extra skin? Seriously, these risk only apply to dirty disgusting people who deserve their diseases anyway.

Also, I wrap my junk.

Hey, if you weren't circumsized when a swaddling babe, don't feel guilty. Keep your wang clean. 😎

Actually, Codewiz's advice in the last post looks very sound.

 

[Platypus]

lol another circ thread.

Know how to prevent disease? Don't stick your dick in something diseased.

 

[Codewiz]

Actually I must post again.

Lets go through the scenarios

Circumcised:
Casual unprotected sex with infected = high probability of infection
Casual protected sex with infected = much lower probability of infection

Uncircumcised:
Casual unprotected sex with infected = Higher probability of infection compared to circumcised.
Casual protected sex with infected = much lower probability of infection.

I don't know what is so hard to understand that unprotected is just dumb whether you are circumcised.

I can't wait to hear people say that penis cancer is higher in uncircumcised. It just goes to show you that people really do not understand risk management.

Circumcision as a risk management mechanism is utter fail.

 

[TheLonelyPhoenix]

I read about this nifty invention, it's a piece of latex you put on your penis and it prevents anyone from getting infected or knocked up! It's really neat! You should all check it out!

 

[Muse]

lol another circ thread.

Know how to prevent disease? Don't stick your dick in something diseased.

Oh, abstinence. That sounds like a lot of fun. 🙄

 

[Platypus]

I read about this nifty invention, it's a piece of latex you put on your penis and it prevents anyone from getting infected or knocked up! It's really neat! You should all check it out!

Logic and reason don't pertain to the United States obsession with routine infant circumcision. The paradigm has been cast in this country and basically it comes down to some really sad reasoning. People mutilate their children because 1) they think there is some cleanliness benefit that somehow outweighs their child's right to control their own body and instead of talking to their kids about safe sex, they just amputate an incredibly useful part of the body. 2) the fact that most women in this country are conditioned to expect a penis in a specific way, and thus not seeing in that way is somehow disgusting to them.(if this happens to you, its a great way to tell you'd never want to be with a person like that anyway) 3) they want their child to look like their father or not be teased by other boys (wtf).

Rates are slowly dropping in the US thankfully, hopefully this barbaric practice is abandoned.

 

[Platypus]

Oh, abstinence. That sounds like a lot of fun. 🙄

Put on a condom, no one is saying don't have sex. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[SP33Demon]

And if they aren't using condoms then they are eventually going to pick up something nasty, circumcised or not.


The idea of using circumcision as a protection against STD's is just bizarre and it makes me doubt the motivation or qualification of the Doc in the report.

I don't think it's saying that circ is to be used as STD protection. It's a secondary, inherent advantage in the event that someone fails to use regular STD protection. Either way, it's much ado about nothing because it's such a small probability.