Study finds: circumcision cuts risk

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Alone

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are you guys really worried someone is going to try and cut you now? this shit happens as a baby, and the baby has no clue, and gets over it, just like everything else that happens to babies.

Yeah, tell that to this kid. And that's with proper medical equipment; I can only imagine how it went about before.

NSFW!

But hey, no big deal, right? :rolleyes:
 

Wreckage

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So if you are going to bang a dirty ho, you might want to cut part of your dick off first?
 

InflatableBuddha

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From everything I've heard, women prefer circumcised to un-circumcised.

I'm cut, and I've never had complaints from any of my partners. I also enjoy having sex and I'm not mentally scarred.

Circumcision is not at all the same at female genital mutilation, which serves no purpose other than to physically inhibit female sexual pleasure under religious grounds. It is an abhorrent and disgusting procedure.
 

Platypus

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To those saying there are no side effects, there certainly are a ton of legitimate medical issues caused by this unnecessary surgery. I am sure there are guys out there here with some of these, maybe they just don't want to pipe up to comment, maybe you got a more liberal procedure done, maybe you didn't even know it, but they are certainly out there. I have seen many the dick in my day up close and personal.

Among which are skin tunnels, skin bridges, hair on shaft (caused by scrotal tissue being pulled up to accommodate erections since you cut off the skin meant for that :rolleyes:. Nothing like forcing a bunch of hair into your partner), hourglassing (tight band of skin right under circ scar causing an hourglass shape, and a permanent indented ring on inside that can be felt during an erection), turkey necking of scrotal issue due to tightness/drawing up of scrotal tissue, uneven scar lines, painful erections, chafing, very decreased sensation in glans/inner foreskin due to keratinization, unnatural curves, completely removed frenulums resulting in very few remaining areas of sensation.
 
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By your definition, pierced ears are ear mutilation and should be outlawed. Many parents get their kids' ears pierced before they're old enough to make the decision themselves. Should they be thrown in prison, too?

If a person has the "right" to kill an unborn baby, they surely have the right to make that baby conform to their own cultural beliefs. At least, anyway, until that baby reaches the age which they can decide for themselves what they want.

That said, your definition on female circumcision is narrow and neglects the vast majority of female circumcisions that are performed (which includes removing the clitoris). The common female circumcision is a major health risk to the woman, and is typically forced on an adult or teenaged woman. Male circumcision carries no such health risk.

Please note that I am not circumcised and have no intention to circumcise my children, so my defense of circumcision is from a purely ideological standpoint and has nothing to do with my personal experiences.

Heh, kind of went off the deep end with that one considering nothing i said in my post has anything to do with what you posted as a reply.

There is no such thing as common female circumsisions, the one you are describing is the southern Sudanese version which usually is the one most mentioned because it involves sowing up most of the vaginal entry which causes a lot of deaths.

The point i was making was regarding what would actually equal a male circumsision and removing the inner labia would most probably also have the same health benefits as removing half of the nerves in the penis and at about the same cost in function.

My opposition to male genital mutilation is that there is no need for it and that it reduces actual sensitivity with much more than 50% (not only the nerve endings, but also by desensitising the glans to a point where not eaven coarse cotton fabric rubbing against it HURTS)

It's an archaic Judaic law and that's all it is.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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I'm cut, and I've never had complaints from any of my partners. I also enjoy having sex and I'm not mentally scarred.

Circumcision is not at all the same at female genital mutilation, which serves no purpose other than to physically inhibit female sexual pleasure under religious grounds. It is an abhorrent and disgusting procedure.

Naturally you will never know what it would feel like to have sex with a whole penis so trying to understand how it would feel to have 50% more nerve endings and a very sensitive glans isn't something you could ever do.

Male circumsision serves no purpose but the negative effect is that you lose the majority of your sensitivity in your penis and it wouldn't ever even had been thought of if some ancient archaic Jew didn't think it was a swell idea either, it is done for religious reasons or because people are stupid, take your pick which was the case with your parents.

Why not remove the inner labia, who likes roast beef curtains? The risk of tearing skin is obviously reduced greatly so the transmission of infection is lessened about as much as with male circumsision, isn't this a great idea?

Not going to happen because it's not an ancient biblical law.
 

kami333

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From study:
Of the 2786 men in the intervention group who did not have HIV infection at enrolment, 1357 (49%) reported that they were married or in a consensual relationship with a total of 1463 women (mean=1·08 female partners per man). Of the 2810 men in the control group who did not have HIV infection at enrolment, 1349 (48%) reported that they were married or in a consensual relationship with a total of 1429 women (mean=1·06 female partners per man).

lol
 

Texashiker

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I'm cut, I also enjoy having sex and I'm not mentally scarred.

Take how good sex feels right now, and multiple that by a couple of times,,, that is how it feels for uncut.

Keep in mind that circumcision was promoted as a cure for masturbation - meaning that it did not feel as good for cut males.
 

Terzo

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Naturally you will never know what it would feel like to have sex with a whole penis so trying to understand how it would feel to have 50% more nerve endings and a very sensitive glans isn't something you could ever do.

Take how good sex feels right now, and multiple that by a couple of times,,, that is how it feels for uncut.

On the flip side, you guys can't comprehend how sex feels for a circumcised person. There's probably a difference, but don't just start throwing numbers out there.

As for circumcision being mutilation... I suppose it is by definition, but then so is something like getting ears pierced, as mentioned earlier. I think the key difference is that (at least in the US) circumcision is done because the parents believe it is for the health of the child. This is one of those cases where I think motivation makes for an important distinction.
 

LumbergTech

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On the flip side, you guys can't comprehend how sex feels for a circumcised person. There's probably a difference, but don't just start throwing numbers out there.

As for circumcision being mutilation... I suppose it is by definition, but then so is something like getting ears pierced, as mentioned earlier. I think the key difference is that (at least in the US) circumcision is done because the parents believe it is for the health of the child. This is one of those cases where I think motivation makes for an important distinction.

believing something nonetheless does not make it true...
 

moshquerade

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You get off starting threads about dicks?
C'mon Red... stop the ad hominem attack. It adds nothing to the thread and you know it.

I'm not "getting off" on this thread.

I particularly don't like seeing it become a war between those who have been circumcised and those who haven't.

This is a study, and it produced the results mentioned, like it or not.
The HPV results are new findings.
 
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On the flip side, you guys can't comprehend how sex feels for a circumcised person. There's probably a difference, but don't just start throwing numbers out there.

As for circumcision being mutilation... I suppose it is by definition, but then so is something like getting ears pierced, as mentioned earlier. I think the key difference is that (at least in the US) circumcision is done because the parents believe it is for the health of the child. This is one of those cases where I think motivation makes for an important distinction.

Of course i can, i just put on 7-8 condoms (thick ones) or rub it with lidocain first.

This is nothing like getting your ears pierced, cutting off the earlobes would be close but a better example is removing labia and hood from a woman, it's about the same amount of nerve endings and will make sex just about as much less enjoyable (provided the clit gets desensitised enough, you might need to remove some outer labia to make sure it's properly chafed against the underwear all day long)

Now, why don't women have their inner labia cut off? It would surely make the risk of contracting STD's less and help with cleanliness too.

In reality and no matter what you say the very reason is because of biblical law, if som weird guy back in the day hadn't started the practice no one in their right mind would think about starting it today, we'd refer to any tribe that did it as primitive and absolutely ban it in all of the civilised western nations.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Take how good sex feels right now, and multiple that by a couple of times,,, that is how it feels for uncut.

Keep in mind that circumcision was promoted as a cure for masturbation - meaning that it did not feel as good for cut males.

Interesting; I didn't know that. Given that I've occasionally had issue lasting as long as I'd like, I can only imagine I'd pop sooner if I were uncut. Sounds like it would feel pretty good though.

As it is however, I am cut and there's nothing I can do about it, so I don't worry about it. I just enjoy sex and masturbation as best I can.
 

Eli

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It's been known for a quite a while that being uncut increases your risk of certain things.

It's still an ancient, outdated, disgusting practice that has no place in a modern society.