Student suspended after reporting sexual assault. DeVos’ legacy?

[mect]

I can't believe the school hasn't been called out for offering a class called, "Sexual Harassment is Preventable".

 

[interchange]

And I’m sure 15 year old girls are able to figure that out for themselves…

Well in that case you wouldn't be able to enforce a contract signed by a minor anyway.

But that just reinforces your point anyway.

 

[Pohemi]

thanks for proving me right with personal insults.

It's amusing that you feel entitled to anything more substantial. You aren't; you get what you deserve.

 

[KMFJD]

It's shit like this that is Devos' legacy

https://www.thecentersquare.com/iowa/op-ed-gov-reynolds-stands-with-parents-and-educational-freedom/article_233033a2-409e-11ec-a072-b7eb52295da9.html

"I pledge to support policies that promote parental rights in education and educational freedom. This includes the right of parents to voice their opinions at school board meetings and to take their children’s taxpayer-funded education dollars to the education providers of their choosing – whether it be a public, private, charter, or home school."

 

[Zorba]

I can't believe the school hasn't been called out for offering a class called, "Sexual Harassment is Preventable".

I was hoping that was directed towards the harasser, not the harassee. But based on the rest of story that's probably wishful thinking.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's amusing that you feel entitled to anything more substantial. You aren't; you get what you deserve.

That can't be true or every Republican would be dead. Obviously you confused the principle that people should get what they deserve with the fact that only I know, and certainly not you, what people actually deserve. I can't imagine how you could have acquired such arrogance as to pretend you know anything

 

[pauldun170]

I can't believe the school hasn't been called out for offering a class called, "Sexual Harassment is Preventable".

Why would they be called out for it?
The school has some policy in place where anyone involved in a sexual harassment incident should take a class which I would assume to be based off CDC and other fairly standard courses.

Why the wouldn't they require all those involved in an incident to go through a prevention course?

Sexual Assault Awareness

Everyone has a role for in preventing sexual violence. Learn strategies to help change social norms, teach skills, and create protective environments. #NSAAM

www.cdc.gov

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[UNCjigga]

Why would they be called out for it?
The school has some policy in place where anyone involved in a sexual harassment incident should take a class which I would assume to be based off CDC and other fairly standard courses.

Why the wouldn't they require all those involved in an incident to go through a prevention course?

Sexual Assault Awareness

Everyone has a role for in preventing sexual violence. Learn strategies to help change social norms, teach skills, and create protective environments. #NSAAM

www.cdc.gov

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You’re right—every student should be provided some basic training on Title IX/sexual assault prevention + how to deal with it when it happens to you or someone you know. However, being singled out for this class after a suspension turns this into more of a “punishment”.

 

[UNCjigga]

Here comes the national spotlight—from a WaPo newsletter:

High school students across the country say their schools are mishandling reports of sexual violence. One group in N.C. is pushing back.

Protesters are alleging that North Carolina’s second-largest school district has silenced and even punished students for wanting to speak out.

www.thelily.com

 

[pauldun170]

You’re right—every student should be provided some basic training on Title IX/sexual assault prevention + how to deal with it when it happens to you or someone you know. However, being singled out for this class after a suspension turns this into more of a “punishment”.

The school believes that she lied about the incident and punished her with suspension.
If they have a policy that anyone (victims and perpetrators) involved has to take the course\class she also has to take the course.

If the class material is designed to HELP the victim then calling it punishment simply because they are providing the victim with resources to deal with situation doesn't quite sound right.
"They made me take a class therefore its punishment!!!"

 

[UNCjigga]

The school believes that she lied about the incident and punished her with suspension.
If they have a policy that anyone (victims and perpetrators) involved has to take the course\class she also has to take the course.

If the class material is designed to HELP the victim then calling it punishment simply because they are providing the victim with resources to deal with situation doesn't quite sound right.
"They made me take a class therefore its punishment!!!"

Well it seems school system policy is that everyone has to take part of the training within first 20 days of the school year—that makes sense. Providing victims with resources post-incident also makes sense—though I hope the focus is less on prevention (a bit late for that) and more on coping with/living with the consequences.

You say “the school believes she lied and punished her with a suspension”—why should the school have a higher bar for investigating sexual assault than the police? If the police investigation resulted in charges and an admission by the perpetrator, shouldn’t that be enough??

 

[mect]

Why would they be called out for it?
The school has some policy in place where anyone involved in a sexual harassment incident should take a class which I would assume to be based off CDC and other fairly standard courses.

Why the wouldn't they require all those involved in an incident to go through a prevention course?

Sexual Assault Awareness

Everyone has a role for in preventing sexual violence. Learn strategies to help change social norms, teach skills, and create protective environments. #NSAAM

www.cdc.gov

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Because the label is very poorly worded because it gives the implication that the victim is at least partially responsible for being assaulted. Sexual assault awareness is very different from sexual assault victim blaming.

 

[pauldun170]

Well it seems school system policy is that everyone has to take part of the training within first 20 days of the school year—that makes sense. Providing victims with resources post-incident also makes sense—though I hope the focus is less on prevention (a bit late for that) and more on coping with/living with the consequences.

You say “the school believes she lied and punished her with a suspension”—why should the school have a higher bar for investigating sexual assault than the police? If the police investigation resulted in charges and an admission by the perpetrator, shouldn’t that be enough??

The incident took place on the second day of school.
The girl reported it two weeks later that the boy touched her boob and tried to stick his hand down her pants.
Boy was arrested and when interviewed by police allegedly admitted to the charge (I have not seen the police report) .
Afterwards, the school claimed to obtain additional information that she lied about something.
I don't what the School has claimed and can only guess. HOWEVER, the school coming across information that something was amiss is independent of the police activity of arresting him and getting a statement.

I haven't read anywhere that the case has gone to court, therefore as of right now I'm sticking to "everything is alleged" and ignoring the larger narratives.

I haven't found the hook yet in the story to get me in the mood to forumize yet.
I keep expecting the Shyamalan twist on this story to pop up somewhere so I can't emotionally connect with any of the characters in this article.

 

[pauldun170]

double post

 

[Pohemi]

That can't be true or every Republican would be dead. Obviously you confused the principle that people should get what they deserve with the fact that only I know, and certainly not you, what people actually deserve. I can't imagine how you could have acquired such arrogance as to pretend you know anything

"You get the response from me that you deserve" - is that better?

 

[Vic]

If this was a workplace, the school district's actions here would be considered unlawful retaliation.

 

[Vic]

good god. so who was president and Secretary of Education when this "happened"? this forum is about as swampy as one can get.

Your trolls are weak.

DeVos finalizes regulations that give more rights to those accused of sexual assault on college campuses

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Wednesday formally announced new protections for those accused of campus sexual harassment and assault, a controversial move that upends Obama-era guidance she had argued denied due process to the accused.

www.cnn.com

 

[akugami]

The reality is that there are bad people in positions of power everywhere. We know that the vast majority of assaults go unreported. The issue here, is that the student was punished for her report. DeVoss greenlit the "punish the tattlers" approach to managing sexual assault.

It's a legitimate method of reducing sexual assault. Won't be none, if none gets reported. AMIRITE

DeVos wasn't just bad for education, she was a disaster and set back public education by 20 years. And it's funny we have some blaming the current administration, because of course it happened while the "libtards" were in charge, so of course it's the "libtard's" fault. Not the previous administration which set the policies that created the whole mess, which others now have to clean up.