Student Loan Forgiveness is Set to Expire: This is Going to be Painful for Many!

[zinfamous]

even ben garrison is for this

https://twitter.com/x/status/1563228475091472384

This must be one of his creations during afternoon craft session at rehab.

 

[Greenman]

If you look up PSLF you’ll see they are tax free, at least federally.

As far as the problem goes essentially student loans were created to offload the cost of educating people onto the kids because they parents didn’t want to pay for it anymore. It’s too late for the boomers to be responsible but the right answer is to return responsibility.

That apparently only applies to those that enter public service.

 

[MrSquished]

as i said. twitter intern.

She moved up to being in charge of Murphy's social media and the New Jersey social media After starting an intern, like many do. No, she's not coming from being an intern. Many medical professionals start as interns. Does that mean an experienced doctor hired at a practice is now just coming from being an intern? Silly statement.

 

[fskimospy]

That apparently only applies to those that enter public service.

Up to $20,000 in Student Loan Cancellation is Here: But Will it Hurt Your Taxes?

President Biden extended the student loan payment pause and announced up to $20,000 in student loan debt cancellation for some borrowers—plus there’s some good tax news.

www.kiplinger.com

I don’t know how many times I need to tell you this.

 

[MrSquished]

Up to $20,000 in Student Loan Cancellation is Here: But Will it Hurt Your Taxes?

President Biden extended the student loan payment pause and announced up to $20,000 in student loan debt cancellation for some borrowers—plus there’s some good tax news.

www.kiplinger.com

I don’t know how many times I need to tell you this.

You'll never learn that greenman pretends to be moderate, but he's not. He is a purposely willfully ignorant Republican on most issues. I mean yes he thinks q people are crazy, but that's a very low bar.

 

[FelixDeCat]

You'll never learn that greenman pretends to be moderate, but he's not. He is a purposely willfully ignorant Republican on most issues. I mean yes he thinks q people are crazy, but that's a very low bar.

Greenman is the only level headed guy you can trust to give a fair and balanced opinion.

The opposite is zinfamy. I'm sensing he is a bug eyed flag waving liberal. You always know he will give you a left leaning viewpoint.

 

[Captante]

as i said. twitter intern.

You say this like its a bad thing!

This kind of "talent" might be just what the doctor ordered.... the current Democratic "promotions" people are pretty dang inept.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It's hilarious listening to "conservatives" wondering where is the money coming from

Uh, it's the same wealthy people who have been encouraging, and in many cases making, all the bad decisions about under-taxing corporations and the wealthy that have landed us with debt. It continues to mystify why conservatives still consider the richest to be trustworthy guardians of the country’s best interests, when they are so clearly willing to drive the country into debt in the long term in order to dodge as much taxes as they can in the short term.

They seem to have a permanent grudge about having to be the ones who pay disproportionate amounts of the taxes because they have disproportionate amounts of the fucking money. So they figure that anything they can do to weasel their way out of even their most obviously core basic responsibilities — such as not selfishly stiffing the country out of its needed revenues.

I mean, I can see why the 1 to 3% would find it convenient to think that way, but not why ordinary middle-class Republicans would give them a pass on it. But hell, they voted for Donald Trump, which has to be some kind of apotheosis of the attitude that rich people are entitled to do whatever the fuck they want, however disastrous it may be for the country.

 

[Captante]

Greenman is the only level headed guy you can trust to give a fair and balanced opinion.

The opposite is zinfamy. I'm sensing he is a bug eyed flag waving liberal. You always know he will give you a left leaning viewpoint.

I agree with @Greenman on many points and disagree on many more however he and I are on civil to friendly terms here 99% of the time.

I'm pretty sure the most extreme things you post are just attention-seeking so I only bust your chops moderately over them, HOWEVER you are anything but "level-headed" lol!




EDIT: Not being able to get along with folks that have different opinions/perspectives is a serious weakness!

 

[VRAMdemon]

It's also hilarious watching the hypocrisy of "Christians" who are up in arms about this decision.

Deuteronomy 15:1, New King James Version:

"At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts."

Deuteronomy 15 NKJV

Selective enforcement of biblical passages is indeed typical of modern Christendom. The Bible is filled with debt forgiveness, literal. Not just “Jesus paid for your debt (sin) even though he didn’t have to”. I mean it is filled with forgiving financial debts.

Matthew 18:21-35 (or so) “The Parable of the Unforgiving Debtor”.

The gist is that one debtor is forgiven and then refuses to forgive someone else who owes him money. The final line is, “That is what my heavenly Father will do if you refuse to forgive others…”

If modern Republicans existed in biblical times, they would have said that the miracle of loaves and fishes was a slap in the face to those that brought their own lunch.

The right wing outrage over this isn’t based on any lofty principle, it’s simply that the “wrong” people are benefitting.

 

[MrSquished]

I agree with @Greenman on many points and disagree on many more however he and I are on civil to friendly terms here 99% the time.

I'm pretty sure the most extreme things you post are just attention-seeking so I only bust your chops moderately over them, BUT you are anything but "level-headed" lol!




EDIT: Not being able to get along with folks that have different opinions/perspectives is a serious weakness!

Sure he is civil but he is willingly obtuse and ignorant on point after point after point, keeps repeating them, or just ignores the factual counterpoints.

just because someone is civil doesn't make them less of a danger. Ignorance, whether willful or not, which ends up in support of the GQP - that is the enemy.

 

[fskimospy]

You'll never learn that greenman pretends to be moderate, but he's not. He is a purposely willfully ignorant Republican on most issues. I mean yes he thinks q people are crazy, but that's a very low bar.

I don’t think he pretends to be moderate, he has always come off as a conservative Republican to me.

 

[fskimospy]

It's hilarious listening to "conservatives" wondering where is the money coming from

Uh, it's the same wealthy people who have been encouraging, and in many cases making, all the bad decisions about under-taxing corporations and the wealthy that have landed us with debt. It continues to mystify why conservatives still consider the richest to be trustworthy guardians of the country’s best interests, when they are so clearly willing to drive the country into debt in the long term in order to dodge as much taxes as they can in the short term.

They seem to have a permanent grudge about having to be the ones who pay disproportionate amounts of the taxes because they have disproportionate amounts of the fucking money. So they figure that anything they can do to weasel their way out of even their most obviously core basic responsibilities — such as not selfishly stiffing the country out of its needed revenues.

I mean, I can see why the 1 to 3% would find it convenient to think that way, but not why ordinary middle-class Republicans would give them a pass on it. But hell, they voted for Donald Trump, which has to be some kind of apotheosis of the attitude that rich people are entitled to do whatever the fuck they want, however disastrous it may be for the country.

It’s the same thing that happens every time a democrat is in the White House. Republicans pretend to care about deficits and debt. No doubt after losing their way under Reagan, tossing out GHWB after he tried to find their way, losing their way under GWB, and then losing their way under Trump they will surely not lose their way again. Trust them.

 

[MrSquished]

I don’t think he pretends to be moderate, he has always come off as a conservative Republican to me.

I'm pretty sure he commented in the last few days that he is a moderate that strongly values the Constitution. I'll have to find it when I'm at my computer and have some time.

 

[Greenman]

Sure he is civil but he is willingly obtuse and ignorant on point after point after point, keeps repeating them, or just ignores the factual counterpoints.

just because someone is civil doesn't make them less of a danger. Ignorance, whether willful or not, which ends up in support of the GQP - that is the enemy.

This entire point actually boils down to "which ends up in support of the GQP". That's your issue.
I actually have a hell of a lot more in common with a classic liberal than the republican's.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's also hilarious watching the hypocrisy of "Christians" who are up in arms about this decision.

Deuteronomy 15:1, New King James Version:

"At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts."

Deuteronomy 15 NKJV

Selective enforcement of biblical passages is indeed typical of modern Christendom. The Bible is filled with debt forgiveness, literal. Not just “Jesus paid for your debt (sin) even though he didn’t have to”. I mean it is filled with forgiving financial debts.

Matthew 18:21-35 (or so) “The Parable of the Unforgiving Debtor”.

The gist is that one debtor is forgiven and then refuses to forgive someone else who owes him money. The final line is, “That is what my heavenly Father will do if you refuse to forgive others…”

If modern Republicans existed in biblical times, they would have said that the miracle of loaves and fishes was a slap in the face to those that brought their own lunch.

The right wing outrage over this isn’t based on any lofty principle, it’s simply that the “wrong” people are benefitting.

AKA Jubilee. Jubilee (biblical) - Wikipedia

 

[Captante]

Sure he is civil but he is willingly obtuse and ignorant on point after point after point, keeps repeating them, or just ignores the factual counterpoints.

just because someone is civil doesn't make them less of a danger. Ignorance, whether willful or not, which ends up in support of the GQP - that is the enemy.

I'm not arguing with you but that's all beside my point.

If more people made a real effort to STILL communicate DESPITE their differences the world would undoubtedly be a better place.

I hate that US politics is so "black and white" these days when in reality nearly everything is a shade of grey.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You'll never learn that greenman pretends to be moderate, but he's not. He is a purposely willfully ignorant Republican on most issues. I mean yes he thinks q people are crazy, but that's a very low bar.

i doubt green is even being honest about a believers

 

[Wreckem]

Greenman is technically correct, he’s talking about the 20 year loan forgiveness. That was a taxable event and still would be if they hadn’t snuck in a provision in the American Reacue Plan of 2021. That reconciliation bill to make all student loan forgiveness tax free until 2025 in anticipation of Biden doing loan forgiveness. Since it was done with reconciliation it couldn’t be made permanent. It will have to be renewed in 2025 or the 20 year loan forgiveness becomes a taxable event again. PLSF is not a taxable event as that was originally in the legislation in the mid 2000s.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Greenman is technically correct, he’s talking about the 20 year loan forgiveness. That was a taxable event and still would be if they hadn’t snuck in a provision in the American Reacue Plan of 2021. That reconciliation bill to make all student loan forgiveness tax free until 2025 in anticipation of Biden doing loan forgiveness. Since it was done with reconciliation it couldn’t be made permanent. It will have to be renewed in 2025 or the 20 year loan forgiveness becomes a taxable event again. PLSF is not a taxable event as that was originally in the legislation in the mid 2000s.

I cant remember a time Greenman was incorrect about much to be honest with you. He is eh cool guy and doesnt afraid of anything.

I will conclude by saying that this "executive order" should be challenged and overthrown in court.

 

[Captante]

I will conclude by saying that this "executive order" should be challenged and overthrown in court

Oh I fully agree .... the GOP should champion that idea STRIDENTLY to the media going into the midterms too so EVERYONE hears about their brilliant plan! /s

That'll really help out Republicans up for election/re-election! /s

 

[MrSquished]

When Felix strongly endorses you as a truth teller, that's telling in and of itself

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Never liked this guy, I did like breaking the Boston Curse but that is all.
Fucking Bunghole.

https://www.pcgamer.com/curt-schilling-acts-like-we-all-just-forgot-about-the-time-he-blew-dollar75m-in-public-funds-on-an-mmo-that-never-came-out/

 

[Captante]

Never liked this guy, I did like breaking the Boston Curse but that is all.
Fucking Bunghole.

https://www.pcgamer.com/curt-schilling-acts-like-we-all-just-forgot-about-the-time-he-blew-dollar75m-in-public-funds-on-an-mmo-that-never-came-out/

And that's why you don't get your political advice from a dude who is most famous for a bloody sock!

Thrilling pitcher for the Red Sox and Diamondbacks but I care as much about his opinion on anything other than baseball as I would the sound of his farts!

 

[ElFenix]

She moved up to being in charge of Murphy's social media and the New Jersey social media After starting an intern, like many do. No, she's not coming from being an intern. Many medical professionals start as interns. Does that mean an experienced doctor hired at a practice is now just coming from being an intern? Silly statement.

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