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Strip clubs suck.
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So in general, nudity (other than your fiance/spouse) will harm your relationship with your fiance/spouse?
Nah...
A relationship depends on what 1 person does with another person [be it their loved one or someone else (creating an affair)]. I don't think that going to a "strip show" will affect that persons relationship unless they decide to cross the line and ask for the girls # and elaborate their relationship
Like it has been said before, its just another form of entertainment...same goes for pr0n and movies
Nah...
A relationship depends on what 1 person does with another person [be it their loved one or someone else (creating an affair)]. I don't think that going to a "strip show" will affect that persons relationship unless they decide to cross the line and ask for the girls # and elaborate their relationship
Like it has been said before, its just another form of entertainment...same goes for pr0n and movies
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
I understand that I am much more conservative than some here. But I really believe that things like that either are or can be harmful.
Woah... didn't realize just how liberal people were here, even with relationships. :disgust:
<< same goes for pr0n and movies >>
Which is why I stay away from them.
nik
Woah... didn't realize just how liberal people were here, even with relationships. :disgust:
<< same goes for pr0n and movies >>
Which is why I stay away from them.
nik
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
<< I see. Your father was one extreme so you must the other. Makes sense now.
Atleast we'll have a pure, stable relationship.
nik
<< I guess that resolves the issue then. If you know you are too weak minded to control yourself and separate different situations, then yes, not going to a strip club is very much the right decision. If you don't think you could control yourself when drinking alcohol, then indeed not drinking alcohol at all is the best position.
Some (but certainly not all) other folks, on the other hand, do have the ability to control themselves and have no problem keeping things "in check". If I go on a bachelors party to a strip club, my fiancee can damn well rest assured that she has nothing to worry about, because I would never step across that line. If she ever felt like she didn't have that trust or had any reason not to trust, then there is a problem in the relationship that goes far deeper then someone visiting a strip club. >>
Said with more thought than I can Muster in my stage of nasuea and exasustion. Well Said!
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
If you wouldn't put yourself in that situation to begin with, you wouldn't be taking the chance and are pretty much assuring that nothing will happen as well.
What's the problem here folks?
nik
What's the problem here folks?
nik
<<Why put yourself in that position and take the risk? It's just not worth it.>>
Insert here "for me". If you think that's what works FOR YOU, then that's great. Doesn't give you the right to make blanket statements about being better than other men, or doing things "the right way" so to speak.
<<If you wouldn't put yourself in that situation to begin with, you wouldn't be taking the chance and are pretty much assuring that nothing will happen as well.>>
If you have control of yourself, it doesn't matter. I can go to strip clubs every day, and the dancers could hit on me every time and it wouldn't make me cheat on my wife. I made a committment, and I meant it. Works for the majority of us.
<<What's the problem here folks?>>
The problem is you judging everyone else just because you don't believe in going to strip clubs. 99.9999 etc. percent of people who go to strip clubs just go, have a good time, then go home to their wives. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of fantasy. Most men are MAN enough to realize the difference, and act accordingly.
I'm sorry about what your father did, and if you think you may have the same tendencies, then maybe not going to clubs or looking at porn is what you need to do. But don't judge everyone else by your father's actions. The vast majority of men know the difference in fantasy and reality, and how to cope, just like the vast majority of drivers know not to speed and drive recklessly. Only we aren't trying to ban cars just because a fraction of a percentage of drivers do so.
Insert here "for me". If you think that's what works FOR YOU, then that's great. Doesn't give you the right to make blanket statements about being better than other men, or doing things "the right way" so to speak.
<<If you wouldn't put yourself in that situation to begin with, you wouldn't be taking the chance and are pretty much assuring that nothing will happen as well.>>
If you have control of yourself, it doesn't matter. I can go to strip clubs every day, and the dancers could hit on me every time and it wouldn't make me cheat on my wife. I made a committment, and I meant it. Works for the majority of us.
<<What's the problem here folks?>>
The problem is you judging everyone else just because you don't believe in going to strip clubs. 99.9999 etc. percent of people who go to strip clubs just go, have a good time, then go home to their wives. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of fantasy. Most men are MAN enough to realize the difference, and act accordingly.
I'm sorry about what your father did, and if you think you may have the same tendencies, then maybe not going to clubs or looking at porn is what you need to do. But don't judge everyone else by your father's actions. The vast majority of men know the difference in fantasy and reality, and how to cope, just like the vast majority of drivers know not to speed and drive recklessly. Only we aren't trying to ban cars just because a fraction of a percentage of drivers do so.
silverpig
Lifer
Again, why don't you live in a box?
By going out into society and interacting with other women, you're running the risk right there of cheating. The chances of you cheating with a stripper are pretty damn small dude; the chances of having something with a chick in the office are much greater.
By going out into society and interacting with other women, you're running the risk right there of cheating. The chances of you cheating with a stripper are pretty damn small dude; the chances of having something with a chick in the office are much greater.
yourharddrive
Banned
ha
EvilYoda
Lifer
lol, you guys make me laugh. Some of what's been said in here is just ridiculous. It's pathetic. ^_^
<Oooooh oooooh, look at me, I'm on a high-horse!!>
Comment away, as that was all I could muster, it being late and me being tired. I'll check back tomorrow and see what other funny posts have been made. 🙂
<Oooooh oooooh, look at me, I'm on a high-horse!!>
Comment away, as that was all I could muster, it being late and me being tired. I'll check back tomorrow and see what other funny posts have been made. 🙂
Kadarin
Lifer
Please correct me if I'm wrong: I believe Nik made the point earlier in this thread that whenever nudity or some otherwise sexually oriented material is presented on tv he will tend to look away.. My g/f (of seven years) in the past had a talent for making me feel guilty like that, where I felt obligated to look away from the tv if she was there with me, and I have to tell you that it's certainly an uncomfortable situation. It's also a situation that I will not put up with anymore; I want to be with someone who is more open-minded about nudity and sex, someone who will not inspire a guilt-trip every time we're exposed to it.
I do not go to strip clubs. I believe that it's a total waste of money, but I have no moral objection.
I do not go to strip clubs. I believe that it's a total waste of money, but I have no moral objection.
LethalWolfe
Diamond Member
I've read most of the thread and decided to toss in my 2 cents.
1. IMO titty bars can be a fun "guys night out" but 9 times outta 10 I'd rather go to a local dive and shoot pool then get raped on cover and drinx at a strip club. I mean, there's only so many times you can "buy" attention before you start to get depressed 😉
2. I've gone to strip clubs, my gf of 7yrs has gone to male strip clubs and now that we're back in the same city we'll probably end up hitting a few strip clubs together. As long as it's not an every Fri night thing I don't see why people have such hang-ups 'bout their bf/gf/husband/wife going out with the guys/girls to a strip club every now and then. I trust my gf and she trusts me... end of story.
3. The Body Shop in LA gets two thumbs up. 😀
Lethal
1. IMO titty bars can be a fun "guys night out" but 9 times outta 10 I'd rather go to a local dive and shoot pool then get raped on cover and drinx at a strip club. I mean, there's only so many times you can "buy" attention before you start to get depressed 😉
2. I've gone to strip clubs, my gf of 7yrs has gone to male strip clubs and now that we're back in the same city we'll probably end up hitting a few strip clubs together. As long as it's not an every Fri night thing I don't see why people have such hang-ups 'bout their bf/gf/husband/wife going out with the guys/girls to a strip club every now and then. I trust my gf and she trusts me... end of story.
3. The Body Shop in LA gets two thumbs up. 😀
Lethal
Strips clubs are great...for their intended purpose. No, you're not going to get laid there, that's what brothels are for, though there are exceptions to every rule. ;-)
I went to a strip club a few times and ended-up getting the phone number of a stripper, even though the first couple times I went she said no. Yes, it was the right number, and yes I did call her. Ultimately, I couldn't shake the idea that she might do this type of thing a lot, I mean a LOT, so I decided not to follow-through. Damned sobriety has a way of doing that...
I went to a strip club a few times and ended-up getting the phone number of a stripper, even though the first couple times I went she said no. Yes, it was the right number, and yes I did call her. Ultimately, I couldn't shake the idea that she might do this type of thing a lot, I mean a LOT, so I decided not to follow-through. Damned sobriety has a way of doing that...
<< Atleast we'll have a pure, stable relationship.
nik >>
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you break up with her for a bit and post immature and lame comments in each others threads to annoy each other? I wouldn't call that a "pure and stable relationship". I would in fact call that a juvenile relationship where each party is mutally exclusive of each others needs and desires.
Why don't you get off that high horse before you fall and break your neck. If you don't think you can control yourself that's fine, regulate your own behavior. But the rest of us that know our limits and can act like mature responsible adults will kindly do whatever the hell we want.
<< Oh yeah... I'm sure your wife will REALLY appreciate it when you leave her to go look at other women. I'm sure she'll appreciate it when you basically tell her "you're boring, so I'm going to go look at better women."
If you guys don't understand that, it's not something I can explain anymore. If you so choose, you can screw up your own life, but I hope you see just what it might do -are you willing to risk that!? God I hope not...
nik >>
No, it's called respecting the person I'm with and not allowing those thoughts into my head in the first place. Care to take any more pot-shots little man?
nik
Sounds like you are insecure and unable to control yourself. Either that or you are hella pussy-whipped. Either way, its still pansy.
nik
Sounds like you are insecure and unable to control yourself. Either that or you are hella pussy-whipped. Either way, its still pansy.
It's not the same thing, but my girlfriend came to Hooters with me and my buddies once... I go with just the guys all the time. She says she has no problem with it and if later she tells me that it does, I would stop going. If later she holds going to Hooters against me, I will consider her a liar for saying she accepted it at the time and will feel no remorse.
CK
CK
sorta on topic, i watched a kewl movie called "the center of the world" today. its out on dvd🙂 about a dot com millioniaire that pays a stripper to go with him to vegas for a weekend. interesting stuff, and molly parker is #%@ hot🙂 yes its NR or else it would probably be nc17🙂
and omg, they show him playing quake 3 on his laptop🙂
and omg, they show him playing quake 3 on his laptop🙂
<< Dude.. you just went to the wrong club. Next time try Power Exchange (www.powerexchange.com)
(I'd link, but there is some adult-oriented material on that site) >>
Not like every underage kid can't just copy and paste that
Dude take that URL off and just suggest people PM you for it
"Actually, I have a significant other that I am going to save those desires for, and marry circa 3yrs from now. Strip clubs are so cheap and disgusting."
First of all how do you know that they are so cheap and disgusting if you are too high and mighty to ever go to one? Second of all, I'm sorry that your girl isn't cool with strip clubs. I can't imagine dating/marrying a girl that wouldn't eventually go to a strip club with me. Loosen-up and enjoy the freedoms that America offers!
First of all how do you know that they are so cheap and disgusting if you are too high and mighty to ever go to one? Second of all, I'm sorry that your girl isn't cool with strip clubs. I can't imagine dating/marrying a girl that wouldn't eventually go to a strip club with me. Loosen-up and enjoy the freedoms that America offers!
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